The construct may have been implanted in a guy who wants to get rid of his Keanu Reeves looking-like virtual "friend"
Call for assistance -- Subject D-2 missing and in danger -- Ngaruayanka system
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Plus the fact that they came from the opposite direction in most cases. And in each of those cases they just popped into existence at what appears to be a random location for each. I went to at least two of the start locations for the stargoides and noticed that there was nothing special about any of those star systems at all. It would have made much more sense if all eight of them had come from COL 70, wouldn't it?
Thargoid deep space exploration program? Their sensors are littered a little everywhere around the galaxy in systems with an ammonia world or ammonia life gas giant, though so far they’ve always spawned as broken, static items on landable moon/planet surfaces. They even spawn in the Bubble, too.
Or wherever those Maelstrom ships popped out of Witch Space was a predetermined location, roughly in line with where they would end up in human space.
And my personal suspicion about/take on the Constructs is they decided to leave the galaxy after the extinction of the Guardians. Maybe they went to one of the Magellanic Clouds. Observing things from afar. Then Salvation got them attracted through the Proteus Wave(and/or whatever is going on with the obelisks at Guardian sites - those might be of relevance to finding him…).
Some thoughts that crossed my mind reading this thread...
The title only does this in english. In german, this reads "G-*GNGH.....6E....88-#@". And energy in german is quite similar to the english version (Energie)...
Those "start locations" are merely the locations our sensors were able to pick up their signal. Their real point of origin could be way further out. And why the heck should a spacefaring culture that does so for millennia limit themselves to such a small spot? If we would build a fleet of gigaships, would they all originate from Sol? I highly doubt that.
The idea of a Thargoid vessel intercepting and destroying the ship with the what?!? message had me thinking...
What is it specifically that causes the infestation with green goo when Thargoids attack?
From what I have seen so far (only videos, as I am 1. stuck in the Horizons Memorial Museum and 2. not that good at fighting), it looks like their beam doesn't emit any goo, but the explosions caused by the swarm does. But as I haven't seen it for myself from the outside, I could be wrong.
I was thinking, if they had a means to take out a ship without spreading goo all over the place...
What is it specifically that causes the infestation with green goo when Thargoids attack?
From what I have seen so far (only videos, as I am 1. stuck in the Horizons Memorial Museum and 2. not that good at fighting), it looks like their beam doesn't emit any goo, but the explosions caused by the swarm does. But as I haven't seen it for myself from the outside, I could be wrong.
I was thinking, if they had a means to take out a ship without spreading goo all over the place...
They do have the means. They can EMP, rendering a ship inoperable. They can use their blasters or their LEMP attack (zipzap). They can ram you.
Caustic missiles, but historically Thargoid attack sites have generally been earmarked by that hallmark caustic cloud and corresponding residue on ship hulls. For Frontier to suddenly step away from that and still say it’s a Thargoid attack would be… both surprising, and disappointing.
Because I don’t think a Thargoid should elicit that kind of response from a pilot by now.
I really doubt it was the Thargoids. Every Thargoid attack has always left telltale signs of such and there’s no reason for this one to be different just to deceive us.
If they really are a hive mind then they likely wouldn’t even have a concept for subterfuge, and probably wouldn’t be any good at it.
If they really are a hive mind then they likely wouldn’t even have a concept for subterfuge, and probably wouldn’t be any good at it.
The pretend-fight over HIP 22460 says otherwise, though that could be credited primarily to human idiocy.
That isn't consistent with what was seen, though - the extra FSS signal they generated when moving was detectable from the other side of the galaxy, even if you had to be closer than that to get an idea of where it was coming from - and there are plenty of deep-space stations out to 7000 LY or so around the bubble . If they'd come from much further out then they'd have needed to set off before the Proteus Wave event happened, too.
Certainly it's far more plausible that these were the closest eight (by some combination of actual distance and time to get them out of "deep sleep" mode) and there are probably hundreds more scattered around the galaxy that they don't feel they need to use right now.
I suspect we saw them before we were supposed to because of a graphics glitch. It was odd how they started out being bigger than several solar systems from a distance but shrank as they approached too.
I think it’s more the latter. I don’t think any of the Thargoid actions there were to deliberately deceive humans. If we didn’t see the implications of messing around with unknown technologies, that’s our fault.
The initial signal probably worked and shut down the Thargoids as intended, but it also drew the attention of a more powerful Thargoid entity or entities which quickly regained control and things went on from there.
I think we still underestimate the capabilities of the Thargoids.
By the way, where is it stated that a hive mind is incapable of using subterfuge?
Heh, makes me recall how the Youtube algorithm threw me a coincidently newly published video about "slaver ants" a few week ago, just as some people were having various Thargoid speculations along similar lines going on around here... :7
Hmm, was probably this one..:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsbe1pD8ocE
Hmm, was probably this one..:
Better explenation would be that the existence of the concept of lies and deceit would inevitably lead to disharmony due to a deterioration of trust within the hive mind and result in a fracturing of the civilization. Complete trust in mutual benevolence is a foundation for a hive mind to function. It may be interesting to speculate what would happen when suddenly the ego focused world view of a human gets introduced to the Thargoids when Seo enters full rapport with the hive mind. Would she end like a drop of fresh water hitting the ocean or more like a steel point penetrating safety glass?In the hive mind manual, of course
The idea that a hivemind cannot have individual thoughts inside it relies strongly on the idea/definition that individual thoughts/minds do not exist inside it. Which I think is either outdated or doesn’t apply to the Thargoids.
Queens are very clearly sentient, however, or at least said to be. The average Thargoid drone is not, instead guided by the queens, and possesses less advanced intelligence. Each one of those will have their own thoughts.
So my idea here is that Thargoid hive minds are not “traditional” hive minds - they are still connected to each other, yes, but it exists more to allow faster transfer of information and/or communication between each member of the network, rather than it being a Borg-esque army of mindless husks where free will and individuality doesn’t exist.
The different reactions of Thargoids in the leadup to the war would indicate so. The Coalsack Thargoids apparently never took aggressive actions against humanity in there, but only huddled up around barnacle sites.
And let me just remind everyone how the Alliance has a barnacle neatly wrapped up inside a research station in the California nebula, but our flowery space neighbors are totally fine with it*. (Galnet also sorta lied about the supposed aggressions of them leading up to the war… unless that was a Frontier moment and never showed up in-game.)
If they were all the same raging, mindless beasts where everyone shared the same views, why do we have such situations existing? It’s almost as if Thargoid hives are made up of many individuals sharing their thoughts with each other, without all thinking the same thing all the time. A fitting line from a data pad in Subnautica…
“We would do well, as scientists, to remember that our goal is not to paint the world as we see it, but to see it as it truly is.”
*I’m not counting Delaine’s idiocy in claiming imminent Thargoid attacks when he prompted them to defend their stuff in the first place, by pillaging barnacles to depletion the moment he took over. The goids there seemed to be fine with the Alliance for years until he showed up under false pretenses.
Nope. You're at the same dead end that everyone else is at. Welcome to the club.