It's finally 2023 and the new DLC is awesome, I love it.
Thanks to Frontier, to everyone who made and worked on this game.
Based on the earnings report, we know that Frontier will support the game at least until the end of 2023, and maybe even 2024.
So, I'm assuming we still get 3 more DLCs, maybe even up to 7.
And based on every DLC we get at least 1 carnivore, sometimes even 2. So I'm assuming we still get 15 carnivores max.
Now, I invite you guys to express your views on carnivores and make your list, but before that, I have laid down a few rules for clarity, please read carefully.
I know some dudes don't want any more carnivores, but take it easy, this is just a friendly discussion.
Thank you all
This is the rule：
1.Everyone can choose a maximum of 15 carnivores, a minimum of 1, note that it is a maximum of 15, not a minimum of 15.
2.This discussion only deals with habitat animals.
3.The list can only refer to the large animal groups that have appeared in the game (such as: cats, canines, bears, pinnipeds, amphibians and reptiles and flightless birds is OK...but eagles, cetaceans and fish are not allowed)
4.Your selection can be broad (like cougars) or down to subspecies (like tigers)
5.To be more interesting and precise, I divided the list into 4 categories, according to how much the participants like them and the likelihood of obtaining them.
My reason about South China Tiger:
But please believe me, this animal is actually full of power and wild beauty. As long as the pedigree is well managed and the tigers with distant bloodlines are selected for breeding, then you have the opportunity to see its original appearance: large and conspicuous diamond-shaped markings, Stronger body, slightly reddish coat color and more obvious muscle lines.I believe that when my ancestors saw those strong and healthy South China tigers, they would think that they were a symbol of strength and courage, and imitate their appearance to make military symbols, which were used as tokens for mobilizing troops.
This is a Tiger Talisman from more than 2,200 years ago, and it comes from the country where the first emperor of China, Yingzheng, lived. It is now collected in the National Museum of China:
I took this photo from the Chongqing Zoo in China. This male is very good-looking, strong but not bloated, but he is very shy. I waited for 2 days before I photographed him out in the early morning.
Thanks to Frontier, to everyone who made and worked on this game.
Based on the earnings report, we know that Frontier will support the game at least until the end of 2023, and maybe even 2024.
So, I'm assuming we still get 3 more DLCs, maybe even up to 7.
And based on every DLC we get at least 1 carnivore, sometimes even 2. So I'm assuming we still get 15 carnivores max.
Now, I invite you guys to express your views on carnivores and make your list, but before that, I have laid down a few rules for clarity, please read carefully.
I know some dudes don't want any more carnivores, but take it easy, this is just a friendly discussion.
Thank you all
This is the rule：
1.Everyone can choose a maximum of 15 carnivores, a minimum of 1, note that it is a maximum of 15, not a minimum of 15.
2.This discussion only deals with habitat animals.
3.The list can only refer to the large animal groups that have appeared in the game (such as: cats, canines, bears, pinnipeds, amphibians and reptiles and flightless birds is OK...but eagles, cetaceans and fish are not allowed)
4.Your selection can be broad (like cougars) or down to subspecies (like tigers)
5.To be more interesting and precise, I divided the list into 4 categories, according to how much the participants like them and the likelihood of obtaining them.
（1）、The“must”:You like them so much and think we're bound to get them.
（2）、The“good”:You like them and think we have a good chance of getting them.
（3）、The“no bad”:You're not against getting them, but it's okay not to have them.
（4）、The“only myself”:You like them very much, but you know that getting them is almost impossible, and this is only for your own selfishness.(ps:I'd be more than happy if you could share your reasons for choosing this.)
Next, I'll use my list as an example:
The“must”:
Wolverine
Spectacled Bear.
The“good”:
Tasmanian Devil
Sand Cat
Ocelot
Pallas's Cat
Yellow-throated Marten
Walrus
Eurasian Otter
The“no bad”:
Asian Lion
Sumatran Tiger
The“only myself”:
South China Tiger
Asian Golden Cat
Fishing Cat
A leopard with the melanization gene.(India/Sri Lanka/Indochina/Javan/African)
（2）、The“good”:You like them and think we have a good chance of getting them.
（3）、The“no bad”:You're not against getting them, but it's okay not to have them.
（4）、The“only myself”:You like them very much, but you know that getting them is almost impossible, and this is only for your own selfishness.(ps:I'd be more than happy if you could share your reasons for choosing this.)
Next, I'll use my list as an example:
The“must”:
Wolverine
Spectacled Bear.
The“good”:
Tasmanian Devil
Sand Cat
Ocelot
Pallas's Cat
Yellow-throated Marten
Walrus
Eurasian Otter
The“no bad”:
Asian Lion
Sumatran Tiger
The“only myself”:
South China Tiger
Asian Golden Cat
Fishing Cat
A leopard with the melanization gene.(India/Sri Lanka/Indochina/Javan/African)
My reason about South China Tiger:
As the oldest tiger and the origin of all tigers today, the current situation in South China Tiger is dangerous. Due to human activities, poaching, and habitat destruction, the South China tiger has become extinct in the wild. There are currently less than 260 living in China. in the zoo. All the current South China tigers are descendants of 6 tigers in the last century, so they have a high degree of inbreeding problems. From the appearance, if you don’t pay attention to the pedigree and breed at will, they will have such things as "thin", "bowed", "Short tail" and other issues. Frankly, it's pretty ugly.
Like this:
Like this:
But please believe me, this animal is actually full of power and wild beauty. As long as the pedigree is well managed and the tigers with distant bloodlines are selected for breeding, then you have the opportunity to see its original appearance: large and conspicuous diamond-shaped markings, Stronger body, slightly reddish coat color and more obvious muscle lines.I believe that when my ancestors saw those strong and healthy South China tigers, they would think that they were a symbol of strength and courage, and imitate their appearance to make military symbols, which were used as tokens for mobilizing troops.
This is a Tiger Talisman from more than 2,200 years ago, and it comes from the country where the first emperor of China, Yingzheng, lived. It is now collected in the National Museum of China:
At present, the weight of South China tigers in captivity rarely exceeds 180 kg, but according to the data records of the last century, it is not uncommon for large male tigers to weigh more than 200 kg. In other words, the genetic decline of the South China tiger is objective.So their situation is still not good.
But it has not reached the moment of despair. As China pays more and more attention to the protection of wild animals, a large number of national parks have been established one after another. Among them, the Northeast Tiger and Leopard National Park in Northeast Asia exceeds 14,000 square kilometers. According to monitoring, The number of wild Siberian tigers in China has doubled compared to 2010. Among countries with tiger distribution, only Nepal has achieved the same results. Of course, India's achievements are also very strong, but due to the large base, it has not achieved the goal set when participating in the 2010 Tiger Global Tiger Conference.
Although in the short term, due to a series of problems such as lack of sufficient habitats, the conservation of South China tigers still depends on zoos, but based on the successful experience in protecting Siberian tigers, I firmly believe that one day in the future, South China tigers will Reappearing in the wild, because of the language barrier, I also hope that more people can learn about the stories about South China tigers and help them when possible.
My reason about Asian Golden Cat:
This is also a feline that used to be abundant in my country. However, due to similar problems to South China tigers, their current situation is not good, but because small cats do not have as harsh requirements for the living environment as big cats, their numbers in the wild are still above the minimum standard. But you can hardly see them in the zoo. Among all cats, the Asian golden cat is a kind with strong reproductive ability. They can breed all year round. Female golden cats go into heat once every 39 days on average, and generally last for 5 days. - 7 days, the gestation period does not exceed 90 days at most, and the cubs can live independently at 9 months. But in captivity, all this becomes more difficult. Due to their very sensitive personality, golden cats in captivity often have accidents where males kill females during mating, and females occasionally kill males. Even if they are successfully pregnant, Females may also kill cubs due to external stimuli. Based on this fact, as far as I know, there are only three zoos in China that have them, and there has been no news of successful breeding for many years, and in Europe, only zoos in France and Germany have them. Southeast Asia may be better, but North America You won't see them in the zoo.
The current solution is to imitate the captive breeding experience of the equally sensitive clouded leopard, either artificially fertilizing or living together when the male and female are still cubs, but the situation is not optimistic due to the small base. The latest breeding in Europe comes from Two cubs were born using artificial insemination at the Wuppertal Zoo in Germany. So I hope that more people will learn about this beautiful and mysterious animal, which may help them.
Furthermore, the Asian golden cat has the most variety of fur colors in the cat family. According to statistics, there are as many as 6-8 species. I really hope that more people can see it. By the way, Asian golden cats have been found many times in Chinese wild giant panda reserves, and at some higher altitudes (the highest recorded at altitude 4300 meters), and there are their shadows in areas with colder climates, so it is not a tropical cat, but a cat that can adapt to the Asian alpine coniferous forest area under suitable conditions.
But it has not reached the moment of despair. As China pays more and more attention to the protection of wild animals, a large number of national parks have been established one after another. Among them, the Northeast Tiger and Leopard National Park in Northeast Asia exceeds 14,000 square kilometers. According to monitoring, The number of wild Siberian tigers in China has doubled compared to 2010. Among countries with tiger distribution, only Nepal has achieved the same results. Of course, India's achievements are also very strong, but due to the large base, it has not achieved the goal set when participating in the 2010 Tiger Global Tiger Conference.
Although in the short term, due to a series of problems such as lack of sufficient habitats, the conservation of South China tigers still depends on zoos, but based on the successful experience in protecting Siberian tigers, I firmly believe that one day in the future, South China tigers will Reappearing in the wild, because of the language barrier, I also hope that more people can learn about the stories about South China tigers and help them when possible.
My reason about Asian Golden Cat:
This is also a feline that used to be abundant in my country. However, due to similar problems to South China tigers, their current situation is not good, but because small cats do not have as harsh requirements for the living environment as big cats, their numbers in the wild are still above the minimum standard. But you can hardly see them in the zoo. Among all cats, the Asian golden cat is a kind with strong reproductive ability. They can breed all year round. Female golden cats go into heat once every 39 days on average, and generally last for 5 days. - 7 days, the gestation period does not exceed 90 days at most, and the cubs can live independently at 9 months. But in captivity, all this becomes more difficult. Due to their very sensitive personality, golden cats in captivity often have accidents where males kill females during mating, and females occasionally kill males. Even if they are successfully pregnant, Females may also kill cubs due to external stimuli. Based on this fact, as far as I know, there are only three zoos in China that have them, and there has been no news of successful breeding for many years, and in Europe, only zoos in France and Germany have them. Southeast Asia may be better, but North America You won't see them in the zoo.
The current solution is to imitate the captive breeding experience of the equally sensitive clouded leopard, either artificially fertilizing or living together when the male and female are still cubs, but the situation is not optimistic due to the small base. The latest breeding in Europe comes from Two cubs were born using artificial insemination at the Wuppertal Zoo in Germany. So I hope that more people will learn about this beautiful and mysterious animal, which may help them.
Furthermore, the Asian golden cat has the most variety of fur colors in the cat family. According to statistics, there are as many as 6-8 species. I really hope that more people can see it. By the way, Asian golden cats have been found many times in Chinese wild giant panda reserves, and at some higher altitudes (the highest recorded at altitude 4300 meters), and there are their shadows in areas with colder climates, so it is not a tropical cat, but a cat that can adapt to the Asian alpine coniferous forest area under suitable conditions.
I took this photo from the Chongqing Zoo in China. This male is very good-looking, strong but not bloated, but he is very shy. I waited for 2 days before I photographed him out in the early morning.
My reason about Fishing Cat:
This kitten was chosen because it is so unique, especially its paws. Its claws are both non-retractable like a cheetah and webbed like a Sumatran tiger. As the most water-dependent cats, they spend most of their lives in close proximity to water. And it's not hard to see them in zoos either. I believe it will be very interesting to design suitable exhibition areas for them.
This kitten was chosen because it is so unique, especially its paws. Its claws are both non-retractable like a cheetah and webbed like a Sumatran tiger. As the most water-dependent cats, they spend most of their lives in close proximity to water. And it's not hard to see them in zoos either. I believe it will be very interesting to design suitable exhibition areas for them.
My reason about A leopard with the melanization gene.(India/Sri Lanka/Indochina/Javan/African):
The reason is very simple, as the title says, I want a leopard with the melanization gene, but the Amur leopard doesn't have it, so I want another leopard. Based on the fact that Arabian leopards, Persian leopards, and North China leopards also have no reliable melanization records, I have targeted African leopards, cheetahs, Indochinese leopards, Sri Lankan leopards, and Javan leopards. (PS: There seems to be a melanized Amur leopard in the American zoo, but according to some disclosures, this leopard should be mixed with other leopard subspecies).
The reason is very simple, as the title says, I want a leopard with the melanization gene, but the Amur leopard doesn't have it, so I want another leopard. Based on the fact that Arabian leopards, Persian leopards, and North China leopards also have no reliable melanization records, I have targeted African leopards, cheetahs, Indochinese leopards, Sri Lankan leopards, and Javan leopards. (PS: There seems to be a melanized Amur leopard in the American zoo, but according to some disclosures, this leopard should be mixed with other leopard subspecies).
I will make two statistical tables for statistics, one based on category percentage. One based on overall percentage.
Thank you for your patience in watching, and I hope everyone will participate actively. I hope that more than 100 people will participate in the voting.
The following is a list of statistics：
Thank you for your patience in watching, and I hope everyone will participate actively. I hope that more than 100 people will participate in the voting.
The following is a list of statistics：
| Ranking | Animal name | Number of Votes | Proportion（%） |
| 1 | Wolverine | 17 | 94.44% |
| 2 | Spectacled Bear | 14 | 77.78% |
| 3 | Tasmanian Devil | 13 | 72.22% |
| 4 | Ocelot | 12 | 66.67% |
| 5 | Serval | 10 | 55.56% |
| 6 | Walrus | 9 | 50% |
| Secretary Bird | 9 | ||
| 8 | Sea Otter | 8 | 44.44% |
| 9 | Pallas Cat | 7 | 38.89% |
| Honey Badger | 7 | ||
| 11 | American black bear | 6 | 33.33% |
| 12 | Yellow-throated Marten | 5 | 27.78% |
| Nile Crocodile | 5 | ||
| Bat-Eared Fox | 5 | ||
| Perentie | 5 | ||
| Black-backed Jackal | 5 | ||
| 17 | Shoebill Stork | 4 | 22.22% |
| Sloth Bear | 4 | ||
| Bush Dog | 4 | ||
| Banded Mongoose | 4 | ||
| 21 | Sumatran Tiger | 3 | 16.67% |
| Fishing Cat | 3 | ||
| Raccoon Dog | 3 | ||
| Little Blue Penguin | 3 | ||
| South American Coati | 3 | ||
| Coatimundi | 3 | ||
| Tanuki | 3 | ||
| Coyote | 3 | ||
| 29 | Sand Cat | 2 | 11.11% |
| Asiatic Lion | 2 | ||
| Asian Golden Cat | 2 | ||
| Argentine black and white tegu | 2 | ||
| American Flamingo | 2 | ||
| Grey Fox | 2 | ||
| Aard Wolf | 2 | ||
| Black Caiman | 2 | ||
| Black-footed ferret | 2 | ||
| A Temperate Otter | 2 | ||
| Jaguarundi | 2 | ||
| Red-legged Seriema | 2 | ||
| Leopard Seal | 2 | ||
| White-nosed coati | 2 | ||
| African Civet | 2 | ||
| North American River Otter | 2 | ||
| Green Anaconda | 2 | ||
| 46 | Eurasian Otter | 1 | 5.56% |
| South China Tiger | 1 | ||
| A leopard with the melanization gene | 1 | ||
| Dwarf Crocodile | 1 | ||
| Sunda Island Tiger | 1 | ||
| African palm Civet | 1 | ||
| Kori Bustard | 1 | ||
| Another Penguin | 1 | ||
| Mangrove Monitor | 1 | ||
| Greater Roadrunner | 1 | ||
| Iberian Lynx | 1 | ||
| Red Wolf | 1 | ||
| Northern Caiman Lizard | 1 | ||
| West African Slender-snouted Crocodile | 1 | ||
| Spotted-tailed Quoll | 1 | ||
| Freshwater Crocodile | 1 | ||
| Chuditch | 1 | ||
| Australian Sea Lion | 1 | ||
| Pine Marten | 1 | ||
| New Zealand fur seal | 1 | ||
| Marbled Polecat | 1 | ||
| Tayra | 1 | ||
| Harp Seal | 1 | ||
| Brown hyena | 1 | ||
| Crocodile monitor | 1 | ||
| Numbat | 1 | ||
| Southern Rockhopper Penguin | 1 | ||
| Northern or souther fur seal | 1 | ||
| Golden Jackal | 1 | ||
| Sothern Ground Hornbill | 1 | ||
| Pelican | 1 | ||
| Harbour Seal | 1 | ||
| Marabou Stork | 1 | ||
| Reticulated Python | 1 |
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