No Single Player offline Mode then?

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So broken promise these days is green light for petty payback? Just wondering.

Its not very complicated.

- Company stated they will release a certain software feature.
- People pre-purchase the item on the basis that certain feature will be there.
- Company reverses decision to include that certain feature.
- People reverse their decision to pre-purchase the game.

Action and Response. Quite natural, and hardly petty.

 

[Perramas]

Perramas, same problem, those corps ruined Eve Online. You want to play that kind of game again?

What did I do? I am a backer of offline play because I do not want others to influence my game. I will not be playing Elite D unless it has an offline mode. I played EVE from March of 2005 until February of this year. I left because of the sociopaths that infest that game.

 

[humbleton]

Its not very complicated.

- Company stated they will release a certain software feature.
- People pre-purchase the item on the basis that certain feature will be there.
- Company reverses decision to include that certain feature.
- People reverse their decision to pre-purchase the game.

Action and Response. Quite natural, and hardly petty.

Yeah but anyone with a half descent internet connection doesn't care one little bit. I know I don't. It's just people that are living in the dark ages in places like Florida that do.

 

[Tim Wheatley]

Surely you should go to the store first as there is the option there, anything else is really just trying to cause unecessary drama and comes across as quite hysterical.

If they refuse then take it elsewhere.

G

You know what I'm beginning to wonder? Frontier did a lot of work to create an accurate galaxy, if that got out there, you might have other devs, even some scientists just stealing their work to use in their own projects. Imagine typing in locations of 100000+ stars only to have someone else use it without permission? I know this happens because I actually work for a developer, licensing out our stuff, but quite often find people already illegally using it without licensing as well.

Sigh. I wish they had not announced like they did.

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Yeah but anyone with a half descent internet connection doesn't care one little bit. I know I don't. It's just people that are living in the dark ages in places like Florida that do.

I care. My connection is fine.

 

[5PIDER]

I'm waiting for people to just start bumping the thread for no reason.

 

[LoSt]

Yeah but anyone with a half descent internet connection doesn't care one little bit. I know I don't. It's just people that are living in the dark ages in places like Florida that do.

That's the problem. People keep assuming it's about the internet connection and NOT about the failure/shutting down of the servers in the future. That future being when earnings per share don't dictate keeping the game running when the horsepower in almost any game box is there to run the server side too for a single player.

 

[the darkwalker]

Wow.. 308 pages (so far) of griping about the inability to play in offline modes.
The kickstarter targets and aspirations are exactly that - targets and aspirations - or promises that they would TRY and include all of the things they had promised, however it was NOT a promise that they would compromise their product in any way to achieve all of them.
This is FD's game, they make the decisions on what makes the final cut based on what they see as the best option to them at the time of release, very much like the director of a movie decides what scenes to leave in or cut from the final release version of a movie. If FD feel that an offline only mode would not show off their product to the absolute best of it's potential then they have the right to cut it or to change how it works.

I currently live in the middle of a desert in the middle east and rely on an intermittent mobile internet connection (although it is improving) to connect and play many online games. I knew I was signing up for an online game, the fact that offline was a potential extra was a bonus but not a deal breaker. If it was a deal breaker for you then you should have waited until release before commiting anything.

Anyway, for those of you who must have the offline only experience, the link below will take you to the PC Gamer top 100 games - most of these are offline only, so I'm sure something will keep you happy...
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-pc-gamer-top-100/

if you actually read those 308 pages you'll understand that this has been beaten over and over. people (like myself) bought this IN THEIR STORE one month ago!

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Its not very complicated.

- Company stated they will release a certain software feature.
- People pre-purchase the item on the basis that certain feature will be there.
- Company reverses decision to include that certain feature.
- People reverse their decision to pre-purchase the game.

Action and Response. Quite natural, and hardly petty.

I wasn't talking about refunds, which is understandable thing (although I have pointed out flaws in logic about refunding, but I will let them be).

However, what I was talking about is all these wishes that FD fails to deliver game, that media will burn FD to the ground (it won't of course), etc. I liked ED online idea since begining, and that's why I have always supported it. Would offline only version come, yeah, I would support that too. For me playing Elite is just awesome feeling. I don't have list of requirements to fulfill - and I personally don't believe some of excuses sounded here why online is so bad.

 

[synchromesh]

Rafael Tonka : Wow.. 308 pages (so far) of griping about the inability to play in offline modes.

LOL !! funny when you think about it....Its ironic when their internet connection is so good

 

[LoSt]

LOL !! funny when you think about it....Its ironic when their internet connection is so good

Again, it's not about the players' internet connection but about when the servers are no longer on the internet.

 

[Sargon]

Surely you should go to the store first as there is the option there, anything else is really just trying to cause unecessary drama and comes across as quite hysterical.

If they refuse then take it elsewhere.

G

Not really because I just may not stop at a refund and would look into a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT based on misrepresentation and false advertising.
I'm not sure where you're from, but here in the States, Bait & Switch is a CRIME.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Again, it's not about the players' internet connection but about when the servers are no longer on the internet.

And that was answered long time ago - FD have given unofficial pledge to release server software if they do so. You can't believe them, but it has been addressed in the past. What else?

 

[the darkwalker]

LOL !! funny when you think about it....Its ironic when their internet connection is so good

indeed, my phone's connection is really good when i don't finish the traffic
then 56k kicks in

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Not really because I just may not stop at a refund and would look into a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT based on misrepresentation and false advertising.
I'm not sue where you're from, but here in the States, Bait & Switch is a CRIME.

There is Single player mode. And you should really read those Kickstarter rules.

 

[Tim Wheatley]

That's the problem. People keep assuming it's about the internet connection and NOT about the failure/shutting down of the servers in the future. That future being when earnings per share don't dictate keeping the game running when the horsepower in almost any game box is there to run the server side too for a single player.

I've actually just made a to-camera video attempting to explain why this matters to me. I feel it's the only way to hopefully have people understand. And I'm not asking Frontier to change their mind, it's actually more about my views not being respected now more than anything, while being expected to respect theirs.

 

[LoSt]

And that was answered long time ago - FD have given unofficial pledge to release server software if they do so. You can't believe them, but it has been addressed in the past. What else?

A company that is in a future failing state has promised to release server side software. From company in the midst of funding has reneged on a promise to provide offline play?

Let me get my head around that.

 

[the darkwalker]

I've actually just made a to-camera video attempting to explain why this matters to me. I feel it's the only way to hopefully have people understand. And I'm not asking Frontier to change their mind, it's actually more about my views not being respected now more than anything, while being expected to respect theirs.

share the link!

 

[Tim Wheatley]

And that was answered long time ago - FD have given unofficial pledge to release server software if they do so. You can't believe them, but it has been addressed in the past. What else?

Was that before or after they answered about offline mode last? Please. FD posted a response to an offline query 2.5 weeks ago.

 

[mbpoblet]

You're basically saying that hundreds of people should loose their jobs, be unable to support their families because you DON'T GET SINGLE PLAYER.

I'm definitely not saying that this should happen (in fact I hope Frontier can rectify and get out of the hole they're digging for themselves), but I'm certain that, due to the way they have handled and are still handling this whole situation the probability of it happening has definitely increased, and will probably keep increasing in the near future (although it will probably be nothing compared to the result of the predictable reaction to the eventual publication of gamma and release feature sets, which will probably still be small compared to the result of the also predictable server crash on release, even if Elite: Dangerous is not on SimCity's scale by at least one order of magnitude).

And I'm definitely not happy about it, but Frontier seem intent on achieving that result (one almost wonders whether the game will be renamed to make reference to springtime and a certain austrian-born dictator, come the premiere event...).

 

[Tim Wheatley]

share the link!

I will when it's up. I am even wearing my Elite 30 Years T in it... lol