Animal pack DLC pricing.

tigris115

tigris115
Ok so hear me out for a bit.

I did some math and, if a Planet Zoo animal pack (SE Asia, Grasslands, Wetlands, etc.) is $10 for 8 species, then you can scale that up.

So then that's $20 for 16 animals, $30 for 24 animals, etc.

I think a few themes or families could justify this such as primates, birds, herps, etc.

For example, my wishlist for a $30 primate pack would be...

Aye-aye
Black-headed spider monkey
Black howler
Bolivian night monkey
Celebes crested macaque
Collared mangabey
Common marmoset
Common squirrel monkey
Coquerel's sifaka
Cotton-top tamarin
De Brazza's monkey
Gelada
Golden lion tamarin
Golden snub-nosed monkey
Gray mouse lemur
Hamadryas baboon
Javan lutung
Lion-tailed macaque
Mantled guereza
Northern plains gray langur
Olive baboon
Pygmy marmoset
Vervet monkey
White-faced saki
 
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VetGirl330

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I love primates and agree the game needs more. But this request is totally unrealistic. We are never going to see a pack with 24 animals. It's not about the money; Frontier is clearly not capable of or interested in producing more animals more quickly, let alone providing us with multiple unique rigs in one pack. Even if we pare this list down to something more akin to "essentials" its still far more monkeys then we will ever officially see in the game.

South America
Black howler
Black-headed spider monkey
White-faced saki
Common squirrel monkey
Bolivian night monkey - night monkeys aren't that common in captivity. there are no nocturnal mechanisms in the game. these are the least essential of the SA primates on this list.
Cotton-top tamarin - given the current trend tamarins/marmosets would likely be included as WE animals, therefore I think they could (should) give us all three ;-)
Golden lion tamarin
Common marmoset
Pygmy marmoset - just too small to include as habitat animals or even WE, and Frontier has already said they won't put mammals in the traditional exhibits, probably because the lack of movement would be unrealistic for a mammal

Africa
Collared mangabey - an attractive primate, but ranks below other essentials for Africa
De Brazza's monkey - we definitely need a representative from Cercopithecus sp. I'd be happy with De Brazza's or Diana monkey
Mantled guereza
Gelada
Hamadryas baboon - the most popular and essential baboon
Olive baboon
Vervet monkey

Madagascar
Aye-aye
Coquerel's sifaka - arguably we don't need any more lemurs, but I absolutely adore Sifakas. However I don't think Frontier could ever do justice to their animation.
Gray mouse lemur - we definitely don't need two more lemurs, esp. one that would be small and unimpressive in the game

Asia
Lion-tailed macaque - at most I think we could receive one Indian primate, and lion-tail is the most impressive
Northern plains gray langur
Golden snub-nosed monkey - they are beautiful monkeys but not held in captivity outside China. We are already have our endangered, husbandry-challenged, exceedingly rare in captivity, Asian monkey pick in the Proboscis monkey.
Celebes crested macaque - if we had infinite slots sure, but SA and African primates and non-primate animals need to be prioritized over more Southeast Asian primates
Javan lutung

10 habitat primates + 3 WE marmosets/tamarins. Realistic? Probably not, but a girl can dream.
 
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tigris115

tigris115
VetGirl330 said:
I love primates and agree the game needs more. But this request is totally unrealistic. We are never going to see a pack with 24 animals. It's not about the money; Frontier is clearly not capable of or interested in producing more animals more quickly, let alone providing us with multiple unique rigs in one pack. Even if we pare this list down to something more akin to "essentials" its still far more monkeys then we will ever officially see in the game.

South America
Black howler
Black-headed spider monkey
White-faced saki
Common squirrel monkey
Bolivian night monkey - night monkeys aren't that common in captivity. there are no nocturnal mechanisms in the game. these are the least essential of the SA primates on this list.
Cotton-top tamarin - given the current trend tamarins/marmosets would likely be included as WE animals, therefore I think they could (should) give us all three ;-)
Golden lion tamarin
Common marmoset
Pygmy marmoset - just too small to include as habitat animals or even WE, and Frontier has already said they want put mammals in the traditional exhibits, probably because the lack of movement would be unrealistic for a mammal

Africa
Collared mangabey - an attractive primate, but ranks below other essentials for Africa
De Brazza's monkey - we definitely need a representative from Cercopithecus sp. I'd be happy with De Brazza's or Diana monkey
Mantled guereza
Gelada
Hamadryas baboon - the most popular and essential baboon
Olive baboon
Vervet monkey

Madagascar
Aye-aye
Coquerel's sifaka - arguably we don't need any more lemurs, but I absolutely adore Sifakas. However I don't think Frontier could ever do justice to their animation.
Gray mouse lemur - we definitely don't need two more lemurs, esp. one that would be small and unimpressive in the game

Asia
Lion-tailed macaque - at most I think we could receive one Indian primate, and lion-tail is the most impressive
Northern plains gray langur
Golden snub-nosed monkey - they are beautiful monkeys but not held in captivity outside China. We are already have our endangered, husbandry-challenged, exceedingly rare in captivity, Asian monkey pick in the Proboscis monkey.
Celebes crested macaque - if we had infinite slots sure, but SA and African primates and non-primate animals need to be prioritized over more Southeast Asian primates
Javan lutung

10 habitat primates + 3 WE marmosets/tamarins. Realistic? Probably not, but a girl can dream.
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Ngl, I'd rather just have them all be habitat animals but that works much better
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
Leaf Productions said:
What’s wrong with this community lol, primates are some of the coolest animals out there and we have barely any of the coolest ones in the game.

My scorching hot take is that a full pack of primates would be infinitely better than any “bird pack”
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We need lots of monkeys! But the diversity of 10000+ bird species beats the less than 400 primate species from which only the monkeys are important at this point.

Though best case scenario would be both types of packs (or like 5 packs for the birds)
 

TheDuckKnight

TheDuckKnight
Leaf Productions said:
My scorching hot take is that a full pack of primates would be infinitely better than any “bird pack”
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FortressDoor

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Leaf Productions said:
What’s wrong with this community lol, primates are some of the coolest animals out there and we have barely any of the coolest ones in the game.

My scorching hot take is that a full pack of primates would be infinitely better than any “bird pack”
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I just don't like monkeys so I wouldn't want to spend 30 dollars on only monkeys. Just isn't something I need. I'm fine if Frontier does decide to go the route of more limited packs (bird pack, primate pack, etc.), but since I don't need those types of animals for anything I do I selfishly prefer we get DLC packs with animals I want.
 

synthetase

synthetase
To whoever represents Frontier!!
I'd pay full price (60 US$) for a pack of Canids.
1. Bat-eared Fox
2. Tanuki
3. Grey Fox
4. Crab-eating Fox
5. Corsac Fox (noone brings him up but as far as I know is represented in captivity in the old world)
6. Ethiopian Wolf
7. Black-backed Jackal
8. Golden Jackal
9. Coyote
10. Tibetan Fox
11. Mexican Grey Wolf Lobo
12. Indian Wolf Plains
13. Tibetan Wolf
14. European Wolf
15. Culpeo Fox
16. Brown Hyena (adds just for fun this and others past this point)
17. Aardwolf
18. Indian Flying Fox
19. Spectacled Flying Fox
20. Spitz Dog
21. Hunting Dog
22. Sheep Dog
23. Mastiff/Bull Dog
24. Primal Dog (like dingo)
25. Poodle
 

DragonNTiger

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Leaf Productions said:
What’s wrong with this community lol, primates are some of the coolest animals out there and we have barely any of the coolest ones in the game.

My scorching hot take is that a full pack of primates would be infinitely better than any “bird pack”
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Making a regular pack based on one group would be dumb... but making a full DLC worth of animals based on one group of animals would be thoroughly absurd.
 
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jcp011c

jcp011c
NZFanatic said:
We currently get thirty-two animals a year. So doing your math, if they did a pack with twenty-four brand new animals in it, we'd be waiting roughly nine months for the next one. No thanks.
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tigris115 said:
Imma be real

I didn't think about this
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Just hopping on this thread. I think there may be some middle ground here. No, I wouldn't like to wait 9 months between a new pack either.

but what if that's something they were to do next year? Roll out a a 16 animal pack two times in 2024, one for birds and one for a final/popular species round up of animals that just didn't make it into the normal DLC cycle, but were being considered. I did not add fully marine animals, but that could be an option as well.

But my point is that we would not see this until after the normal DLC cycle we have is through, which could be as early as sometime this year - hopefully at least not before December.
 

synthetase

synthetase
I forgot the Bush Dog. :( Probably, replace crab-eating Fox or Culpeo fox with bush dog in post #12. :)
and one more edit: To actually answer the question: I don't want any group pack unless its birds. I'd not buy a monkey pack and especially not a reptile pack... The game needs more birds, aside from that I like the current format.
 

juice box

Banned
J
NZFanatic said:
We currently get thirty-two animals a year. So doing your math, if they did a pack with twenty-four brand new animals in it, we'd be waiting roughly nine months for the next one. No thanks.
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It does not have to be one or the other. Life is not a dichotomy. :)

In my opinion Frontier can do it if modders can do it...(modders in their basements mind you, who do it without funding and resources from Frontier)
Why can't Frontier work harder? (that's not a bad word lmao, everybody treats it like disrepect, but this is a transaction, you offer goods or services (dlcs) and we give you hard currency. You want money, we want better dlcs...

Frontier could make the packs slightly larger, how much more time and effort does one animal take to make? A month? Does each animal take Frontier 4 weeks to make??? Two weeks?

To clarify I am not saying WORK HARDER (even though there is NOTHING wrong with doing that)
I work harder all the time at my job. Because that's life. Some years are leaner than others. Some years you work harder...
But for an Aquarium or Aviary expansion I think everybody across the board agrees we need more than one habitat/scenery pack. Zoos regularly have more than 20 birds/fish.

I don't want to buy 3 aquarium dlcs it feels exploitative...but I do see your perspective regarding the timeline.

Frontier could meet us half way. Doesn't have to be 24 animals, but it also doesn't have to be a 9 month wait, both seem unrealistic.

Just my two cents.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
juice box said:
In my opinion Frontier can do it if modders can do it
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Well, the thing about that is, modders can't do it. Modded animals are basically just costumes put on existing animals. They look very nice, a lot of the time, but they don't have any new animations, they don't have new sounds, they can't be used in Franchise mode, and so on.
 

synthetase

synthetase
NZFanatic said:
Well, the thing about that is, modders can't do it. Modded animals are basically just costumes put on existing animals. They look very nice, a lot of the time, but they don't have any new animations, they don't have new sounds, they can't be used in Franchise mode, and so on.
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It would be cool, maybe?, if Frontier could do officially sanctioned "clone-type" animals. Like, a bat-eared fox based on the existing Fennec. Or a Corsac based on the Red or Arctic Fox. I appreciate the amount of effort Frontier puts into each species yet, I still feel like we could use more types of already existing animals. Ideally, Frontier could add these clones without taking up "slots."
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
juice box said:
It does not have to be one or the other. Life is not a dichotomy. :)

In my opinion Frontier can do it if modders can do it...(modders in their basements mind you, who do it without funding and resources from Frontier)
Why can't Frontier work harder? (that's not a bad word lmao, everybody treats it like disrepect, but this is a transaction, you offer goods or services (dlcs) and we give you hard currency. You want money, we want better dlcs...

Frontier could make the packs slightly larger, how much more time and effort does one animal take to make? A month? Does each animal take Frontier 4 weeks to make??? Two weeks?

To clarify I am not saying WORK HARDER (even though there is NOTHING wrong with doing that)
I work harder all the time at my job. Because that's life. Some years are leaner than others. Some years you work harder...
But for an Aquarium or Aviary expansion I think everybody across the board agrees we need more than one habitat/scenery pack. Zoos regularly have more than 20 birds/fish.

I don't want to buy 3 aquarium dlcs it feels exploitative...but I do see your perspective regarding the timeline.

Frontier could meet us half way. Doesn't have to be 24 animals, but it also doesn't have to be a 9 month wait, both seem unrealistic.

Just my two cents.
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You sound like a boss I had once... No clue about what it actually requires to do the job, just looking at numbers and concluding it can't be good enough, even though the employees are already under a lot of pressure.
 
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