Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
sovapid said:
must be a currency conversion thing there, or chris really likes me.

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Might depend on where you are viewing from.
 

Surefoot

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Navigare Necesse Est said:
Ya, it's like these timers until some stuff degrades. Say good-bye to playin at your own time. MP games do it to keep players active, but sometimes you just might to want to ddo sth else.
The reaaal kick in the nut is the constant wipes. EA games tend to have several points to start over - when they finally release you often have played it so much from scratch that you're done doing it.
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TBH I wouldnt mind the wipes ("early access" / "alpha" let's say we believe that from CiG) if the game had a proper core engine, a semi-decent FM and maybe half the promised systems, I'd probably forgive the constant delays and waffling around and just enjoy flying ships around. The problem is the apple is rotten to the core.
 

cigwatch

cigwatch
Ahaha, what a beautiful comment from SA:

"(...) So, Star Citizen has a planned singleplayer game release that's going to represent the official "launch," a story mode that CIG put some very noteworthy voice acting / mocap talent into, to play important characters in the game world. People like Mark Hamill, Gary Oldman, Liam Cunningham, John Rhys-Davies, etc. Then, over the years, planned release dates evaporated and the company went almost completely dark on development of the singleplayer release, and we don't have very far to go until we hit a literal decade of time past the game's original intended launch date in 2014, with no real indication in sight that a product exists anywhere near releasable condition. A lot of their headliner talent is whizzing past retirement age. While we have plenty of examples of actor death/retirement being managed or worked around, SC may offer the first condition of "basically all of our most important characters will not be available for any revision work, line re-do, post production work, or subsequent releases." What's that going to be like? What kind of game comes out and it's a posthumous minefield of "In Loving Memory Of" for half its prominent characters? Star Citizen might honestly accomplish this! How do you manage it, image-wise? How do you deal with being "that game that's been delayed so long all its main characters died" ... well, we might get to find out!"
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
Agony_Aunt said:
Because in the UK, EU, and Australia, they are considered sales, and therefore you are also protected by all the laws regarding non-delivery of stuff sold to you.

Which is why in those countries, you, in theory, can always get a refund, no matter what CIG says, as long as you approach it right.
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Yep. Especially with the new EU directives too, which came into effect January 2022
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Sales of Goods Directive (2019/771)

Two new EU Directives, the Sales of Goods Directive (2019/771) (SGD) and Digital Content and Services Directive (2019/770) (DCSD) are coming into effect for businesses selling goods or digital content or services, as applicable, to consumers within the EU market. The SGD and DCSD apply to...
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Productwise Bitesize: Digital Content and Digital Services Directive 2019/770

Jamie Humphreys and Tania Buckthorp Cooley’s Productwise Bitesize brings you a short introduction to the Digital Content and Digital Services Directive.
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What is it about?

In a similar manner to Directive (EU) 2019/771 concerning contracts for the sale of goods (the “SGD”, as discussed in a recent blog post here), the DCSD puts consumer protection first. It sets out both subjective and objective requirements for conformity, so the digital content or services must be fit for both any specified/agreed purposes and for purposes for which content or services of the same type would normally be used.

Under the DCSD, the business is liable for any failure to supply digital content or services, or any lack of conformity that exists at the time of supply and becomes apparent within two years (also referred to as a two-year warranty period).

Three remedies available to a consumer that receives non-conforming digital content/services are as follows: to have the content/service brought into conformity; to receive a proportionate reduction in price for the content/service (where a price has been paid); and (in certain cases, including where it is impossible or disproportionate to bring the content/service into conformity) to terminate the contract. The DCDS itself doesn’t address whether the consumer may receive damages for breach of contract by the trader, and so this matter was left to the discretion of member states.

Who and what does it apply to?

The DCSD applies to B2C sales contracts between a business and a consumer for the supply of digital content or services. It bites either where the consumer pays the business (or undertakes to pay a price) or provides personal data to the business (other than where such data is provided only for the purpose of supply).
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PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
sovapid said:
Played for a few hours and I didnt have any real big issues.

And really enjoying the new mining mechanic to get merits in prison. :ROFLMAO:
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Sounds positive. It will be great if they can produce a decent game. There's only another 109 systems to populate.

Unfortunately I'm not a fan of MMO's so am keener on Starfield's impending bug-fest.
 
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