The Ultimate, Essential Bird Meta-Wishlist (Habitat AND Aviary)

The list will be updated soon along with the community poll tomorrow.
We lost the battle, my bird brethren. But the war is not over.

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List has been updated!

Big week for raptors! (perhaps they're celebrating JP's 30th Anniversary...) Owls ALMOST swiped the top spot, but the ducks prevail. Eagles, falcons, and the king all say a tremendous boost. As did penguins with the OG zoo simulation game penguin; the Emperor, making their list debut.

So...about yesterday...

With the release of the Arid Animal Pack, and yet another DLC without a single bird, as you all can imagine, I'm very disappointed. And I'm certainly not alone.
And there is nothing wrong with being disappointed!!! We all want Planet Zoo to be the very best it can be. Heck, in the world of zoo simulation games, it probably is.
And voicing our desire for birds - or whatever you feel the game can benefit from - is the sign of strong, passionate fanbase.
Jokes, memes, and a good sense of humor is also a very healthy sign in any community.

However, the true bitterness and hostility displayed here on the forums, and across the other PZ communities in general was frankly appalling.
Name-calling, vicious arguments, the flippant use of the worst word in the history of fandom "objectively" (I'm a Star Wars fan who loves the sequel trilogy, do NOT give me PTSD flashbacks to those times).
And it wasn't just from the disappointed camp either.

Perhaps it's because I'm an American, and a similar phrase has been used here historically to ostracize and silence marginalized communities, but I have no tolerance for "if you don't like it, don't buy it".
No. EVERYONE has a right to voice their opinion, so long as its conducted in a constructive method.

And that's what I'm getting at. I created this thread not only as Meta-Wishlist for birds, but a means to foster community amongst the larger PZ forums. And that's what it will be kept as.
Say what you feel, but do not invalidate others, and certainly do not try to ruin the enjoyment of those looking forward to the new DLC.
We're all zookeepers, so let's treat each other as such.

-Ricky

With said...Community poll! Taking a break from all things arid, what are some of your favorite cold temperature birds? BUT NO PENGUINS, cuz everyone loves penguins.

For me, it's puffins or its nothing. Snowy owls too!

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List has been updated!

Big week for raptors! (perhaps they're celebrating JP's 30th Anniversary...) Owls ALMOST swiped the top spot, but the ducks prevail. Eagles, falcons, and the king all say a tremendous boost. As did penguins with the OG zoo simulation game penguin; the Emperor, making their list debut.

So...about yesterday...

With the release of the Arid Animal Pack, and yet another DLC without a single bird, as you all can imagine, I'm very disappointed. And I'm certainly not alone.
And there is nothing wrong with being disappointed!!! We all want Planet Zoo to be the very best it can be. Heck, in the world of zoo simulation games, it probably is.
And voicing our desire for birds - or whatever you feel the game can benefit from - is the sign of strong, passionate fanbase.
Jokes, memes, and a good sense of humor is also a very healthy sign in any community.

However, the true bitterness and hostility displayed here on the forums, and across the other PZ communities in general was frankly appalling.
Name-calling, vicious arguments, the flippant use of the worst word in the history of fandom "objectively" (I'm a Star Wars fan who loves the sequel trilogy, do NOT give me PTSD flashbacks to those times).
And it wasn't just from the disappointed camp either.

Perhaps it's because I'm an American, and a similar phrase has been used here historically to ostracize and silence marginalized communities, but I have no tolerance for "if you don't like it, don't buy it".
No. EVERYONE has a right to voice their opinion, so long as its conducted in a constructive method.

And that's what I'm getting at. I created this thread not only as Meta-Wishlist for birds, but a means to foster community amongst the larger PZ forums. And that's what it will be kept as.
Say what you feel, but do not invalidate others, and certainly do not try to ruin the enjoyment of those looking forward to the new DLC.
We're all zookeepers, so let's treat each other as such.

-Ricky

With said...Community poll! Taking a break from all things arid, what are some of your favorite cold temperature birds? BUT NO PENGUINS, cuz everyone loves penguins.

For me, it's puffins or its nothing. Snowy owls too!

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Very well said! I divided on the current pack, on one hand I love all the animals, on the other…….. no birds again :(

With that being said I have a couple cold weather birds I love:
  1. Atlantic Puffin
  2. Snowy Owl
  3. Great grey owl/ great horned owl
  4. Snow Geese/ Barnacle Goose
  5. King Eider
  6. Cardinals and Blue Jays
  7. Eagles, preferably Bald or Gold, but Stellars is cool too!
  8. Capercaillie
 
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And there is nothing wrong with being disappointed!!! We all want Planet Zoo to be the very best it can be. Heck, in the world of zoo simulation games, it probably is.
And voicing our desire for birds - or whatever you feel the game can benefit from - is the sign of strong, passionate fanbase.
Jokes, memes, and a good sense of humor is also a very healthy sign in any community.
However, the true bitterness and hostility displayed here on the forums, and across the other PZ communities in general was frankly appalling.
Name-calling, vicious arguments, the flippant use of the worst word in the history of fandom "objectively" (I'm a Star Wars fan who loves the sequel trilogy, do NOT give me PTSD flashbacks to those times).
And it wasn't just from the disappointed camp either.
This is exactly what was bothering me and why I didn't particularly like this criticism. I'm usually ok, but sometimes the constant criticism and low tolerance for anyone who disagrees is just, it's not ok. You phrased it better than I could've
With said...Community poll! Taking a break from all things arid, what are some of your favorite cold temperature birds? BUT NO PENGUINS, cuz everyone loves penguins.
Well, besides penguins, I really like auks, the northern Hemisphere penguin. They look like prehistoric penguins, actually. And listen to how cool of a name this is: razorbill.
Dang, that sounds like if a bird became a pirate or some notorious criminal
 
And there is nothing wrong with being disappointed!!! We all want Planet Zoo to be the very best it can be. Heck, in the world of zoo simulation games, it probably is.
And voicing our desire for birds - or whatever you feel the game can benefit from - is the sign of strong, passionate fanbase.
That sort of what blows about only having pz as the best. Fans if other game genres are lucky to have multiple choices unlike fans of zoo builders.

With said...Community poll! Taking a break from all things arid, what are some of your favorite cold temperature birds? BUT NO PENGUINS, cuz everyone loves penguins.
Simple. Rock ptarmigan. As a kid this was the most polar bird I knew that wasn’t a penguin. I live how they change plumage with the seasons too. If it counts the I also like the western capercaillie.
 
That sort of what blows about only having pz as the best. Fans if other game genres are lucky to have multiple choices unlike fans of zoo builders.


Simple. Rock ptarmigan. As a kid this was the most polar bird I knew that wasn’t a penguin. I live how they change plumage with the seasons too. If it counts the I also like the western capercaillie.
I also want the capercaillie, I’ll edit that into my list
 
I know it is irrelevant to this thread but could the Glaucous Macaw is still alive? Here is a picture of a Lear's Macaw in Pairi Daiza compared to the picture on the left. I know that the Indigo Macaw does not have a grey head so i think it is the Glaucous Macaw, which would be a good addition to the game once we get aviary birds.
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Understandable. But if it's possibly extinct, that means that it hasn't been seen in a very long time, wild or captive. So, it doubt that the glaucous macaw would ever come to PZ. Maybe one of its relatives, but not that species
Agreed that onw of it's relatives would be in the game. But who knows we might be successful if we do it again?
 
Agreed that onw of it's relatives would be in the game. But who knows we might be successful if we do it again?
I think the thing is, Frontier has stated they won't add extinct species into the game. That includes animals that have been in zoos, like the Thylacine, which could also theoretically still exist.

I'm sure that if the glaucous macaw is spotted again, it's status will stay as critically endangered. But until then, it's probably best to consider it extinct
 
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