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Ed02349

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Navigare Necesse Est said:
There is never ligitimately working on something that is technically, physically and sensibly impossible. Theranos was impossible. And SC was also.
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Theranos was an idea of miniaturising blood test, couldn't get it to work and faked the results usingsomepne else's existing tech.
CIG was the idea of going big BDSSE, used someone else's existing game engine to fake an ad to funits operations then found out they couldn't get it to work.

Completely different.
 

Fizzatron

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Ed02349 said:
Theranos was an idea of miniaturising blood test, couldn't get it to work and faked the results usingsomepne else's existing tech.
CIG was the idea of going big BDSSE, used someone else's existing game engine to fake an ad to funits operations then found out they couldn't get it to work.

Completely different.
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Correct, just wait a while longer, you'll see, it will all work out. In the meantime, buy an Idris to help assuage any doubts.
 

MQC

MQC
rootsrat said:
That's actually a very cool system, one of the things I really like about SC.

Elite was supposed to have something similar. All we have though is some parts of Anaconda bend when it's badly damaged. That's it.
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This kind of stuff is cool, but it's cool when all the other important things are in place.

Honestly, I'd rather 10 years with a well worked damage system in the modules, even if they have no graphical representation, than 10 years without a half-decent damage system in a game in eternal alpha.

There are many, many, many, many, many things in SC "theory" that are really cool. Unfortunately CIG hasn't been able to translate them from theory to practice, even after promising and selling them for years.

For me, that's just "one of the things I really hate about SC"; a lot of promises that made us dream and invest a lot of money, and 10 years later nothing at all. I get rich with lies too... so let's stop with the lies and focus on the realities, even if graphically they may be less cool.

That's why, when I see an ISC type video like that, promising cool stuff again with cool graphics, it makes me more disgusted than happy. But that's just me, I'm not very tolerant...
 
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Asp Explorer said:
Why stop at one? Buy two Idrises and really show that you understand game development!
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Buy two, get one extra full price. Deals like this won't last!

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metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Fizzatron said:
This is what I think CIG & Theranos actually have in common. They both were/are (being very fair) legitimately working towards something on a gamble/promise that as they were developing it the tech needed to make it happen would reveal itself along the way and would make the initial unsupported claim true in the end. The deception being selling the product as 100% possible rather than 100% probable possibly maybe but we're sure it will work out in the end. Then, in CIG's case, reinforcing that statement with fake demos/vertical slices that don't work in the greater context of the final product they were selling to backers. Of course, Theranos being in the medical field made that situation far more serious than a video game company, but the net effect of taking people's money without knowing that they can actually deliver the product as sold, in my opinion, reaches the level of financial fraud, as no-one who put money into this was told "we're not sure we can actually deliver this" as far as I'm aware.
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Uhhh, Liz Holmes was a college dropout with zero knowledge of medtech. She comes out of nowhere and says she has "revolutionary" tech that will detect multiple diseases with a simple blood test, even though according to the known science none of that was possible. Then she built a company to fake that and strung people along for years and billions.

Yeah, they have something in common alright.
 

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metatheurgist said:
Uhhh, Liz Holmes was a college dropout with zero knowledge of medtech. She comes out of nowhere and says she has "revolutionary" tech that will detect multiple diseases with a simple blood test, even though according to the known science none of that was possible. Then she built a company to fake that and strung people along for years and billions.

Yeah, they have something in common alright.
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I'll be honest, I can see multiple ways to read what you wrote, though it mostly reads to me that you disagree with my post, is that correct?
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
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I'm surprised to read so many complaints today, this game is in the best state it's ever been (long-time backer) - Star Citizen Spectrum

I haven't perused Spectrum in a bit and decided to load it up today and read some threads while avoiding working. It turns out there is a lot of bitterness on Spectrum today and I am sad to see...
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CIG marketing?

Some push back though.

It boils down to your expectation of what the finished game should look like.

If you expect everything CIG has ever announced, talked about, generated hype with and set expectations for, SC right now is a beautiful yet embarrasingly empty shell. The number of POI is quite low and the little gameplay that's there is as deep as "gather 15 wolf pelts" you'd see in every MMO. The game's arguably 5% complete, tops. After 11 years thats simply not good enough.
People who dare to hold CIG at their own words are the ones who are ed. They were sold a product, they watch the "progress" for years and they dont see a way that what they were sold is actually possible. Former believers, now atheists. Often angry ones. Perfectly relateable in my opinion, even though not every criticism is valid, not every rant is founded and not every argument has merit.

If you set your bar alot lower though, like if you're perfectly fine having just a handful of star systems with a couple of servers with 200 players each, with a few repetitive professions and a bit of pewpew with other players without anything actually groundbreaking or remarkable outside of graphics and detail - well then the game's like 80% done. Fix a few bugs, flesh out some existing gameplay, add another star system or two. Done. (The way CIG behaves like they seem to have the same idea about the game)

There's also firm believers. CIG cant do no wrong and they never did. They wave every criticism aside with platitudes and most arguments are basically just belittling and offending the other side. SC is doing perfectly fine and everything is working according to plans. If you just read the information available you'd know that too.
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metatheurgist

metatheurgist
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I'll be honest, I can see multiple ways to read what you wrote, though it mostly reads to me that you disagree with my post, is that correct?
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I completely disagree with your idea that Liz Holmes was working on anything "on good faith". What she was selling was a complete and total fantasy, and she knew it. Intentions and feelings have nothing to do with it. The cold stark reality was nothing she said could be done, she knew it and taking money on the "off chance" some miracle occurred and the solution presented itself is the very definition of a scam.
 
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