Game Discussions Bethesda Softworks Starfield Space RPG

Manufacturers will say they're not supporting W10 on their new laptops (i got this response from XMG for example which are top notch with support - even tho they've also said that W10 will most probably work with W11 drivers, Asus is not listing W10 as an option for drivers, etc - not to mention that starting with Intel series 12 CPUs, W11 is required for proper scheduling between P and E cores - but you know this all too well) 🤷‍♂️

No official support and not actually functioning are quite distinct. Windows 10 and 11 drivers are usually identical, aside from the OS build info limitations in the .inf, and most drivers don't come from system integrators at all. A few OEMs have first-party-branded controllers, but by and large, when I'm installing drivers on an laptop, I'm getting them from Intel, AMD, MediaTek, Realtek, Qualcomm, Broadcom, ASMedia, etc...not whoever's logos are printed on the laptop itself.

As for scheduling on heterogeneous processors, Windows 11 still has some advantage here, but Windows 10's support in this regard has improved significantly, and both have nearly the same options to control between P and E cores in their power management profiles.

Of course, if the goal is simply to avoid creating a Microsoft Account, that can be done on Windows 11 with less work (it's one checkbox when making the installation media in Rufus, or a couple lines typed into command prompt otherwise) than getting Windows 10 to run flawlessly on a system that only officially supports Windows 11 (which is more tedious than difficult...mostly just looking up device ids to find compatible drivers).
 
If it's running an intel 12 or 13 series - aka with P+E cores - you kinda need to run W11 since W10 cpu scheduler cannot differentiate between P and E cores

I got an Asus running a Ryzen 9 7945HX - and ASUS still requires W11 (no official drivers support for W10) even tho it doesnt have P+E cores - so i had to make the jump to W11 🤷‍♂️
Bumming....
 
Yeah but look at all you get for that 116 GB. IMO there will be a whole lot more content per byte than Odyssey's big footprint. What worries me is that Microsoft's installer will be just as rubbish as it is for MSFS2020, which means it will take forever to download this game, and every update will require you to basically redownload the game, even if that update only contains one changed line of code...
Lots of things would be better than the real estate used by Oddy. :(
 
I bought Starfield premium edition and can't wait to play early access. :D
Yeah me too, and then I need to WORK on that day, trust me this is !! however work is work and games are just that games, but man I'm NOT a happy camper now.
 
Yeah me too, and then I need to WORK on that day, trust me this is !! however work is work and games are just that games, but man I'm NOT a happy camper now.
It's a Bethesda game. You'll get a day one patch to start with, and probably a lot of subsequent patches, and then mods to make it playable if it's anything like all of their previous games. Makes missing the first days less of an issue :)
 
It's a Bethesda game. You'll get a day one patch to start with, and probably a lot of subsequent patches, and then mods to make it playable if it's anything like all of their previous games. Makes missing the first days less of an issue :)
maybe but I was so excited to play it the 1st, why do we need to work anyway it's over rated horse dung :D well Misses Lysan say I should be the adult and just :censored: and stop complaining.
 
I've seen reports online (mainly 'tube videos) that comment people currently playing aren't experiencing any bugs if at all. Looks like the +10 month wait paid off - we'll find out very soon, either way.

I'm personally optimistic for it's release (although doesn't look like I'll be getting my new laptop before then, so will most likely miss out).
 
I've seen reports online (mainly 'tube videos) that comment people currently playing aren't experiencing any bugs if at all. Looks like the +10 month wait paid off - we'll find out very soon, either way.

If the Dev optimization team was busy making Starfield to work on XBox Series S, then the QA team had plenty of time to sort out the most obvious bugs that obviously were not related to hardware issues but to gameplay/logic aspect of the game

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So IIRC, buying this from the Microsoft Store will allow me to play it both on PC and XBox, yes? Do I need to have some sort of annual XBox Plus (or whatever it's called) subscription to take advantage of this, or is it just how the Microsoft Store works? Also, do I need to own an XBox now to take advantage of this, or could I buy an XBox next year and retroactively take advantage of an earlier Starfield purchase?
 
So IIRC, buying this from the Microsoft Store will allow me to play it both on PC and XBox, yes? Do I need to have some sort of annual XBox Plus (or whatever it's called) subscription to take advantage of this, or is it just how the Microsoft Store works? Also, do I need to own an XBox now to take advantage of this, or could I buy an XBox next year and retroactively take advantage of an earlier Starfield purchase?
Basically, yes... since Starfield is one of the many Play Anywhere titles. I paid for the premium edition via Gamepass Ultimate...but a gamepass sub isn't required since the Play Anywhere thing is a new initiative from Xbox, one game purchase...play it on 2 platforms with shared progress and save games. All you need is a valid MS account to do so... the same one you use to sign into Windows or Xbox live.

For Gamepass specifically, there's several flavours of gamepass subs, Xbox live for the Xbox, gamepass for the PC and gamepass ultimate which covers both Xbox live subscription and services and the same for PC. Currently, ultimate is £12.49 (roughly $15) pm. All the games in the 'Included with Gamepass' library are then free to download and play.

Not for everyone, especially the Microsoft account paranoiacs'...but if you have both a PC and Xbox or have family (or close friends) who play on the Xbox or PC, it also covers their individual Xbox live and PC gamepass accounts. It's well worth the asking price for me personally...since my one ultimate sub covers my own Xbox live and PC subs as well as my wife and both my sons on their own Xbox live accounts.

I think it's up to 5 family members or trusted friends covered under the one subscription, each has to have a valid MS account (which is free) but still...

I paid for Starfield premium content on my PC...It's added to my Xbox and PC game library... plus my wife, both my sons and one very close family friend automatically have it added to their Xbox live accounts too. Not bad for 15 bucks per month 🤷‍♂️
 
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Ach! So I assume that since I bought the Game (UK) merch smart watch, I'll need a verified MS account? Kind of hinted at this previously but still not sure. Thanks if you can help me out...

POST EDIT: I am a non-Windows user, just want to be able to log in without any of the shenanigans and not have an account tied to a platform I don't care about... Not wanting to sound rude...
 
Ach! So I assume that since I bought the Game (UK) merch smart watch, I'll need a verified MS account? Kind of hinted at this previously but still not sure. Thanks if you can help me out...

POST EDIT: I am a non-Windows user, just want to be able to log in without any of the shenanigans and not have an account tied to a platform I don't care about... Not wanting to sound rude...
Shouldn't need one with a hard copy of Starfield...assuming there isn't a required login to Xbox game services (on PC) or Steam to play of course (in the likelihood of a day one patch or further digital updates). In which case I suspect you'll need a free MS or Steam account to do so. There undoubtably will be further (and clearer) instructions inside the boxed version when it arrives.

The game blurb clearly states it as a 'Windows' PC or Xbox title...but I've no doubt there are ways around that. Being a gamer first and foremost, I've never used Linux myself so I wouldn't have a clue how any of that computer geekery stuff works 🤷‍♂️
 
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Shouldn't need one with a hard copy of Starfield...assuming there isn't a required login to Xbox game services (on PC) or Steam to play of course (in the likelihood of a day one patch or further digital updates). In which case I suspect you'll need a free MS or Steam account to do so. There undoubtably will be further (and clearer) instructions inside the boxed version when it arrives.

The game blurb states it as a 'Windows' PC or Xbox title...but I've no doubt there are ways around that. Being a gamer first and foremost, I've never used Linux myself so I wouldn't have a clue 🤷‍♂️
Thanks Mole!

Being a Linux booter and ED being the first game I played since being at university (last millennium), I have no clue about Windows... Other than I've got space for the OS install. I guess I'll just wait and see. Not a normal situation by any accounts... The other games I play fortunately are available on Linux.

I still love the fact that I need Windows to be able to play space games ED, Star Citizen and am so looking forward to introducing Starfield into the fold! Sure there are Linux-based titles to play but all I can say is from back to 1984... Elite made me the spacer I am today :D
 
Thanks Mole!

Being a Linux booter and ED being the first game I played since being at university (last millennium), I have no clue about Windows... Other than I've got space for the OS install. I guess I'll just wait and see. Not a normal situation by any accounts... The other games I play fortunately are available on Linux.

I still love the fact that I need Windows to be able to play space games ED, Star Citizen and am so looking forward to introducing Starfield into the fold! Sure there are Linux-based titles to play but all I can say is from back to 1984... Elite made me the spacer I am today :D
A dual boot sytem or Windows emulator then perhaps? Like I said...I've absolutely no idea how Linux works :D
 
A dual boot sytem or Windows emulator then perhaps? Like I said...I've absolutely no idea how Linux works :D
Ah, sorry, wasn't clear. In fact I write any post about this sort of thing I am usually begging for help but asking the wrong questions!

I am happy to host and give the first partition to Windows - probably 500G since I only use it to play games.

The rest will be my 'other' dual boot. I was just wondering if that, as a watch-based pre-order, I might be 'forced' to go FULL Windows (log in, account and all that horrific stuff) rather than just buying a standard Windows OS and just ignoring the account-based stuff. I might sound like an anachronist (if that's the right word) but I struggle with Windows. In the past I've avoided as most have the requirement to be signed into (or whatever it is) Windows accounts but I really don't have time for that or want to get involved... I just want to play a gorram' game! Starfield, specifically...

So the thing that I want to avoid is having a 'Windows account' - which appears to be enforced in Windows 11. I've read the help pages for countering/ignoring that and was wondering that, with Bethesda and MS being 'friends' that with my smart watch pre-order I might be 'forced' into this whole thing. Like I said, not au faix with Windows...
 
Ach! So I assume that since I bought the Game (UK) merch smart watch, I'll need a verified MS account? Kind of hinted at this previously but still not sure. Thanks if you can help me out...

POST EDIT: I am a non-Windows user, just want to be able to log in without any of the shenanigans and not have an account tied to a platform I don't care about... Not wanting to sound rude...
According to the Game product page you’ll be wanting to get Steam installed:
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