Who would like some " Ambient animals " Like Butterflys, Snakes, Birds or Squids for JWE II ?

[Dinotracker]

I would ask you which kind of Ambient animals do think would make JWE II look more natural ?
Ambient animals would be there for show and could also be hunted by our Prehistoric Animals.
This ampient animals wouldn´t need to have many Animations, and would just spawn and need not to be feed. ( they are only where the Player is with its view, not on maps etc. )
Here are some of my suggestions.....

A.) For Lagoons:
1. Jelly fish ( Bioluminescent for show in the night ! Archelon would hunt them.
2. Squids of different sizes ( 0,5 - 2 m ) .... could also be Bioluminescent and would be food for Marine Reptile like Shonisaurus.
3. (White) Shark ..... Swimming free for show and as prey for the BIG 3 .
4. Nautilus ..... Would look cool and could be prey for Archelon
5. Latimeria chalumnae ( real live living Fossil from Devon) ..... for show and fitting prey for Dunkleosteus .

B.) For Aviaries:
1. Big Butterflys .... Show and prey for small Pterosaurs (For C too!).
2. Archeopterix ..... SHOW ( If we not get it as regular new Species) ( For C too!)
3. Big Bugs/Beatles ... food
4. Option to have small Dinosaurs like Compys in the aviaries as amient animals .
5. Free swimming Fisch in the shallow water. Or some kind of small (Waterfall) rapid where fish jump as natural looking feeder . ( For C too !)

C.) For normal Enclosoures:
1. Lizards/ Varans/ Snakes: for show and as Prey for Dinos.
2. Gavials or alligators: for show
3. Turtles / Giant Turtles : as Prey and for show
4. cormorants ( kind of living Fossils) : Show and as Prey ( for A and B too !)

Would do you think?
What kind of animals would You like as ambient animals in JWE II ?

 

[South Tyrant]

Agreed. This would make the environment more alive

 

[VSSEMike]

Jellyfish and squid will do for the lagoons.

What do you say to beef cattle dispensed from the live prey feeder?

 

[Dinotracker]

Jellyfish and squid will do for the lagoons.

What do you say to beef cattle dispensed from the live prey feeder?

Would be Ok but i would prefer animals as Ambient animals that had similar looking relatives that live at the ages of the Dinosaurs.
So it would look like the fitting Prey of our prehistoric creatures.
Here Are some of the " living Fossils" I listet as Ambient animals for the lagoons for this reason.
Nautilus ...........................................................................................................................................Latimeria chalumnae

Big Jelly Fish........................................................................................................................... Greenland shark [Somniosus microcephalus]

Red Devils Squid .....................................................................................................(real existing) bioluminescent Squid

 

[CretaceousCarl]

Would do you think?
What kind of animals would You like as ambient animals in JWE II ?

Your suggestions are all great! I am imagining something between a hatchery and a goat dispenser, where you pick the species, it gets replaced when it dies, and you can release more manually. It'd be nice if you could also set populations, like have the structure spawn another lizard if you have less than three lizards.

In addition to your suggestions, some other potential feeders might include mammals or big non-flying bugs for regular exhibits, invertebrates like trilobites and horseshoe crabs for lagoons, birds for aviaries, and even the smallest species of dinosaurs, marine reptiles, and pterosaurs, considering there are some noticeably smaller than what we have in-game.

 

[Dinotracker]

Ambient Animals Could be Set free via hatcheries for the Big ones and From the Fishfeeder,Insectfeeder and Goatfeeder for the small ones.
The feeders would just need a submenu for the different animals.

 

[VSSEMike]

Would be Ok but i would prefer animals as Ambient animals that had similar looking relatives that live at the ages of the Dinosaurs.
So it would look like the fitting Prey of our prehistoric creatures.
Here Are some of the " living Fossils" I listet as Ambient animals for the lagoons for this reason.
Nautilus ...........................................................................................................................................Latimeria chalumnae

Big Jelly Fish........................................................................................................................... Greenland shark [Somniosus microcephalus]

Red Devils Squid .....................................................................................................(real existing) bioluminescent Squid

My research records did say that mosasaurs fed on ammonites. Just as their jaws can crush the hardest shells, the strongest diving suit will not stand mosasaurs' bites.

 

[Dinotracker]

That´s correct, some big Mosasaurs where able at least to bite wholes into the shells of ammoites and after they sunk to the ground they could have feed on the soft parts of them. Some other Mosasaurs like Globidens (6m long ) where even able to crush the whole shells of smaller ammonites .
For our Lagoons A nice small 2 -8 seater submarine with very strong Acrylglas Would be the best to see the animals from closer disatance.
Moder Sharkcages are made of Acrylglass ( thats in fact bulletproof ).
For our very big Mosasaurs maybe it wouldn´t work, but for most other marine creaturs it would.

 

[VSSEMike]

That´s correct, some big Mosasaurs where able at least to bite wholes into the shells of ammoites and after they sunk to the ground they could have feed on the soft parts of them. Some other Mosasaurs like Globidens (6m long ) where even able to crush the whole shells of smaller ammonites .
For our Lagoons A nice small 2 -8 seater submarine with very strong Acrylglas Would be the best to see the animals from closer disatance.
Moder Sharkcages are made of Acrylglass ( thats in fact bulletproof ).
For our very big Mosasaurs maybe it wouldn´t work, but for most other marine creaturs it would.

Do you remember in the film Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom that the Mosasaurus ate a submarine and its crew?

 

[Dinotracker]

Do you remember in the film Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom that the Mosasaurus ate a submarine and its crew?

Yes ! But our Mosasaurus is not nearly as Big as that "Godzilla " in JW II .
Our JWE II is more realistic 17-20 m ( 18 meters would be the biggest estimate for some Specimen ). JW FK Mosa would at least be 40-50 m long to swallow a small submarine!
Players doesn´t have to use small Toursubmarines in Laggons where they have the Mosasaurus and it would just be cool if Some Marine Reptiles like the Mosasaurus could damage the Underwater-ViewingDome, Viewing Galleries and the Submarines....
Do you know that Gyrospheres and Tourtrucks ( OPEN !!!) can drive trough enclosures of T-Rex , Spinosaurs and Indominus Rex ????
Would you do that in a real Park ? ....Iguess no, but its fun to have the Option to make such "mistakes" in JWE II.
If you want to be safe, you could just only use Submarines in Lagoons without the BIG 3 ( Dunkleosteus, Kronosaurus and Mosasaurus).
More animations like Quetzalcoatlus that catches the shooter of the helis would just be great for Tourtrucks, Gyrospheres and Submarine to !

 

[VSSEMike]

Yes ! But our Mosasaurus is not nearly as Big as that "Godzilla " in JW II .
Our JWE II is more realistic 17-20 m ( 18 meters would be the biggest estimate for some Specimen ). JW FK Mosa would at least be 40-50 m long to swallow a small submarine!
Players doesn´t have to use small Toursubmarines in Laggons where they have the Mosasaurus and it would just be cool if Some Marine Reptiles like the Mosasaurus could damage the Underwater-ViewingDome, Viewing Galleries and the Submarines....
Do you know that Gyrospheres and Tourtrucks ( OPEN !!!) can drive trough enclosures of T-Rex , Spinosaurs and Indominus Rex ????
Would you do that in a real Park ? ....Iguess no, but its fun to have the Option to make such "mistakes" in JWE II.
If you want to be safe, you could just only use Submarines in Lagoons without the BIG 3 ( Dunkleosteus, Kronosaurus and Mosasaurus).
More animations like Quetzalcoatlus that catches the shooter of the helis would just be great for Tourtrucks, Gyrospheres and Submarine to !

Still, the Mosasaurus in Jurassic World: Evolution 2 is based on the one we see in the Jurassic World film trilogy. Before anything related to Jurassic World, Mosasaurus in Dino Crisis 2 are depicted to be smaller and there have speculations that those might be juveniles (not fully grown).

Mosasaurus (file)

Mosasaurus is a dino file that can be found in Dino Crisis 2. This file is found on a table in the 3rd Energy Control Room.[1] Hamamura, Koichi, ed (2000). DINO CRISIS 2 Official Guide Book. Japan: Famitsu.

dinocrisis.fandom.com

I think remote viewing galleries (including lagoon viewing domes) are safer alternatives of having close-up views of dangerous species than tour rides.

 

[Dinotracker]

Still, the Mosasaurus in Jurassic World: Evolution 2 is based on the one we see in the Jurassic World film trilogy. Before anything related to Jurassic World, Mosasaurus in Dino Crisis 2 are depicted to be smaller and there have speculations that those might be juveniles (not fully grown).

Mosasaurus (file)

Mosasaurus is a dino file that can be found in Dino Crisis 2. This file is found on a table in the 3rd Energy Control Room.[1] Hamamura, Koichi, ed (2000). DINO CRISIS 2 Official Guide Book. Japan: Famitsu.

dinocrisis.fandom.com

I think remote viewing galleries (including lagoon viewing domes) are safer alternatives of having close-up views of dangerous species than tour rides.

I´m sorry that you don´t get the Point .
We can Build lagoons for Plesiosaurus, Ichthyosaurs , Archelon, Shonisaurus, Styxosaurus, Attenboroughsaurus, Elsamosaurus and Nothosaurs as Attractions and this would
perfectly be safe For Small Submarines ( 2 - 18 Seater). This kind of Submarines dive for example with 6,7m White sharks and Orcas ( 7-9m ) without any risks in real Live !
There is no way that one of this marine Reptiles I listed would ever have the chance to break the 5cm thick Acrylic Glas of such an Submarine.
Funfact: This Submarine can dive 1000m deep and resist a waterpressure of 100 Athmospheres because of ther Spheric- or Pipeline- ( Circular ) Form of the " Windows" , so this attractions are much tougher than viewing Galleries with really big flatt windows that would for shure break much earllyer if a big Marine Reptile would smash against it !
If you would´t want to use Submarines in Your parks, for safety reasons, than its perfectly fine ! .....Jurassic Tours and Gyrospheres than are even more dangerous in Enclosoures and you should not have that in your parks too ... ( Do You rember Indominus Rex crashing the Gyrosphere in JW ?????? ) !
Hey,.... but Let others the chance to make their own decissions.
Here just a view examples how Acrylic Cages work in real live !

 

[The Carcharodontogenius]

Red Devils Squid

That's a Humboldt Squid.

 

[Dinotracker]

That's a Humboldt Squid.

You are right !
Red Devils Squid = Humboldt Squid = Jumbo Squid = Jumbo flying Squid..... All just synonyms for the same Animal.
Red Devil (Squid ) (diablo rojo) is the Nickname in Mexico for them . They are up to 2m long and wieght up to 50 kg.
They get eaten be Humans but are known to attack divers to ! They can Change their colour from red to white and back 2 - 4 times per second .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldt_squid

 

[VSSEMike]

I´m sorry that you don´t get the Point .
We can Build lagoons for Plesiosaurus, Ichthyosaurs , Archelon, Shonisaurus, Styxosaurus, Attenboroughsaurus, Elsamosaurus and Nothosaurs as Attractions and this would
perfectly be safe For Small Submarines ( 2 - 18 Seater). This kind of Submarines dive for example with 6,7m White sharks and Orcas ( 7-9m ) without any risks in real Live !
There is no way that one of this marine Reptiles I listed would ever have the chance to break the 5cm thick Acrylic Glas of such an Submarine.
Funfact: This Submarine can dive 1000m deep and resist a waterpressure of 100 Athmospheres because of ther Spheric- or Pipeline- ( Circular ) Form of the " Windows" , so this attractions are much tougher than viewing Galleries with really big flatt windows that would for shure break much earllyer if a big Marine Reptile would smash against it !
If you would´t want to use Submarines in Your parks, for safety reasons, than its perfectly fine ! .....Jurassic Tours and Gyrospheres than are even more dangerous in Enclosoures and you should not have that in your parks too ... ( Do You rember Indominus Rex crashing the Gyrosphere in JW ?????? ) !
Hey,.... but Let others the chance to make their own decissions.
Here just a view examples how Acrylic Cages work in real live !

I have seen the harm Plesiosaurus could do to humans in Dino Crisis 2. One served as a boss underwater and the only thing that could hurt it was explosive torpedoes.

The thing is plesiosaurs, pliosaurs, and mosasaurs are carnivores. It is likely that Nothosaurus is a carnivore too, given the fact that it attacked the six teenagers in Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous.

 

[Dinotracker]

I have seen the harm Plesiosaurus could do to humans in Dino Crisis 2. One served as a boss underwater and the only thing that could hurt it was explosive torpedoes.

The thing is plesiosaurs, pliosaurs, and mosasaurs are carnivores. It is likely that Nothosaurus is a carnivore too, given the fact that it attacked the six teenagers in Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous.

LOL... I show you pictures of REAL 3m- 5m long Saltwatercrocs ( 300 - 1000kg ) and REAL people that dive in their Enclosoures in Acrylic-Tube-cages and you tell us about Plesiosaurs in Dino Crisis 2 that were OP ....lol...lol...lol ( PS the Plesiosaurus of that old game was in fact a Elasmosaurus ) .
The plesiosaurus in JWE Is a 3m Long piscovore with a 30cm long head,.... The Saltis in the Pictures above wight upto 4 times as much as that and have over 70 cm long skulls !
The small Marine Reptiles of JWE II would be no problem for 2 Seater Submarines etc.
BTW ...This thread should be about possible "Ambient Animals " for JWE II that make our maps look more lively !

 

[VSSEMike]

LOL... I show you pictures of REAL 3m- 5m long Saltwatercrocs ( 300 - 1000kg ) and REAL people that dive in their Enclosoures in Acrylic-Tube-cages and you tell us about Plesiosaurs in Dino Crisis 2 that were OP ....lol...lol...lol ( PS the Plesiosaurus of that old game was in fact a Elasmosaurus ) .
The plesiosaurus in JWE Is a 3m Long piscovore with a 30cm long head,.... The Saltis in the Pictures above wight upto 4 times as much as that and have over 70 cm long skulls !
The small Marine Reptiles of JWE II would be no problem for 2 Seater Submarines etc.
BTW ...This thread should be about possible "Ambient Animals " for JWE II that make our maps look more lively !

What do you mean by OP?

Anyway, I find the submarines are viable when it comes to Archelon and ichthyosaurs as those pose no threat to humans. I am having doubts about that large armored fish.

 

[Dinotracker]

What do you mean by OP?

Anyway, I find the submarines are viable when it comes to Archelon and ichthyosaurs as those pose no threat to humans. I am having doubts about that large armored fish.

Hey at least 3 Species with even you would use Submarines in your Lagoon !
OP = Over Powered .....Plesiosaurus wight 200-500kg max and Elasmosaurs 2000 - 5000 kg , So if someone Uses the first Species name and give it the 10 Times Wight/Size we can consider it unrealistic OP !
The smal 2-8 Seater Submarines and Acrylic Cages are in use to dive with 500-1000kg Saltwatercrocs, 500kg -2000kg Great white sharks and 4000 to 8000kg Orcas ( Biggest Carnivore alive because sperm whale only hunt squids.). So In comparison of biteforce and size only Mosasaurus, Tylosaurus, Kronosaurus and Dunkleosteus could at least possible damage parts of such a Submarine.
Plesiosaurus ( 3m/ 500kg), Ichthyiosaurs ( 3m, 400kg), Shonisaurus ( 15m / 10 T but teathless week skull) , Attenboroughsaurus ( 6m , 1000kg), Elasmosaurus ( 10m , 3000kg) , Archelon ( 4m /2000kg) , Nothosaurus (4,5m , 400kg), Styxosaurus ( 12m / 4000kg) and Liopleurodon ( 7m , 1500kg ) have all much to week jaws (or skulls) to damage an Acrylic sphere of an Micro Submarine. So For JWE II like the Helis and Jeeps the submarines could be damaged and have to be repaired if we use it with the wrong animals (which would be good for more realistic management ).
BTW I am really surprised that allmost noone answered here, which "ambient Animals" they want to see in JWE II ! ?
Wouldn´t at least squids and nautilus for lagoons and free swimming fish / flying Butterflies for normal enclosoures / aviaries make JWE II much more allive/realistic ????

 

[VSSEMike]

Hey at least 3 Species with even you would use Submarines in your Lagoon !
OP = Over Powered .....Plesiosaurus wight 200-500kg max and Elasmosaurs 2000 - 5000 kg , So if someone Uses the first Species name and give it the 10 Times Wight/Size we can consider it unrealistic OP !
The smal 2-8 Seater Submarines and Acrylic Cages are in use to dive with 500-1000kg Saltwatercrocs, 500kg -2000kg Great white sharks and 4000 to 8000kg Orcas ( Biggest Carnivore alive because sperm whale only hunt squids.). So In comparison of biteforce and size only Mosasaurus, Tylosaurus, Kronosaurus and Dunkleosteus could at least possible damage parts of such a Submarine.
Plesiosaurus ( 3m/ 500kg), Ichthyiosaurs ( 3m, 400kg), Shonisaurus ( 15m / 10 T but teathless week skull) , Attenboroughsaurus ( 6m , 1000kg), Elasmosaurus ( 10m , 3000kg) , Archelon ( 4m /2000kg) , Nothosaurus (4,5m , 400kg), Styxosaurus ( 12m / 4000kg) and Liopleurodon ( 7m , 1500kg ) have all much to week jaws (or skulls) to damage an Acrylic sphere of an Micro Submarine. So For JWE II like the Helis and Jeeps the submarines could be damaged and have to be repaired if we use it with the wrong animals (which would be good for more realistic management ).
BTW I am really surprised that allmost noone answered here, which "ambient Animals" they want to see in JWE II ! ?
Wouldn´t at least squids and nautilus for lagoons and free swimming fish / flying Butterflies for normal enclosoures / aviaries make JWE II much more allive/realistic ????

Thanks for the explanation.

I put emphasis on visitor safety when it comes to parks that have prehistoric species.

I remember that a Liopleurodon threatened the main five characters of the eighth film instalment of The Land Before Time.

The Kronosaurus is one of the aquatic foes in Dino Stalker.

The Park Tour for Proceratosaurus, Coelophysis, Troodon, and all herbivore species in the Jurassic Park era.

Jurassic World era's Jurassic Tour is for Coelophysis, ornithomimids, nodosaurs, hadrosaurs, and sauropods.

The Gyrosphere is more suitable for hunting small carnivores, medium-sized carnivores, pterosaurs, and combat-capable herbivores especially the hateful Therizinosaurus.

 

[Dinotracker]

Which " Ambiant animals Would you choose if only 4 could get added ?