Fall DLC 2023 Speculation

One thing im sure there won't be such nonsense as wrap-up pack or random global animal pack. Frontier packs are always sort of cohesive and based on something.
Eh, I think if anything last year proves that Frontier can do packs with whatever they want really. I'm not going to pretend that the backstage props we got with the conservation pack had anything remotely to do with the conservation theme and were much more of a "the community really wants this, we'll put it in with this pack". If that can happen when it comes to scenery, I see no reason at all why they wouldn't do that with animals either.

If anything, it would make sense to get a kind of "wrap up" pack where you hit off a few more heavily requested animals from the wishlist and features like giving us signs for all animals, to then bring it together under a more generic umbrella term like Conservation. A last hurrah that gives the community what they want.

Frontier openly said in one financal video they are doing that as last cash grab.
Do you still have the link or the timestap where they said that btw? Would be interesting to hear what they say hahaha.

RTJP featured aviary with pteranodon on looped animations. I have no idea why i cant expect PZ getting few. Especially with WE existence.
I do agree that if RTJP can have it, then I don't see a technical reason why they wouldn't for PZ, it's not like looped animation birds would really bug so much that it would extend the support time when you don't want it to anymore.

The one difference I could see is that there are a lot more birds in captivity than there were flying reptiles in the actual JP/JW franchise, so they could more easily do the one off than when you give us 4/5 WE birds and stop making more DLCs right after, because people would keep asking for more. They could probably see that as a reason to go "maybe we shouldn't do it anymore this late in the game".

In all fairness, still not really going to expect birds myself though, as with every new DLC that comes out, the arguments why Frontier would wait with birds make less and less sense to me lol.
 
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To be honest, I don't expect WE birds until the final pack.

If anything, then I'm convinced that the next DLC will be something like a petting/children's zoo pack, with the update featuring revamped exhibits as well as a feeding station. Nothing more than that.


Dreams, though, would be carousels. And while we're on the topic, how do y'all feel about mascots?
Some good ideas as always. Though I suspect if we get WE birds, it won't be for the final pack. My reasoning is that they will have probably have bugs and updates to iron out. I think if we do get WE birds we'll probably get at least one ahead of an Avian pack, if there ends up being such a thing at all (probably not at this point). That way they can further test out the coding/design of them in a live update instead of doing it all behind the scenes. As we've seen from aquatic animals, new mechanics don't always roll out perfectly.
 
Some good ideas as always. Though I suspect if we get WE birds, it won't be for the final pack. My reasoning is that they will have probably have bugs and updates to iron out. I think if we do get WE birds we'll probably get at least one ahead of an Avian pack, if there ends up being such a thing at all (probably not at this point). That way they can further test out the coding/design of them in a live update instead of doing it all behind the scenes. As we've seen from aquatic animals, new mechanics don't always roll out perfectly.
Actually, this wouldn't be entirely outta the question, although we did get bats, so it wouldn't be that much different, I believe, unless they use larger species like raptors or macaws
 
Actually, this wouldn't be entirely outta the question, although we did get bats, so it wouldn't be that much different, I believe, unless they use larger species like raptors or macaws
Good point. That's entirely possible. Although I would like to see things like raptors, macaws and toucans which may require a little more work. Sadly I think it's a moot point since I suspect we won't get anything like that. Oh but how I wish we would!
 
Why does everyone keep bringing up a "Safari Pack"? We've already had an Africa DLC, and then the arid DLC covered more of those bases. The "Safari" is pretty much covered thematically from Frontier's perspective. Additional African animals, such as the highly-requested baboon or something like the serval or whatever, would just be bonuses, there's no chance they'll dedicate another full DLC to Africa.

Based on Planet Coaster and Jurassic World Evolution the "final pack" for Planet Zoo would probably look like an animal pack with scenery, and a free update adding in a few Coaster features such as additonal shops and hotels, and probably a scenario editor. I can imagine it being a "popular picks" wrap-up of some kind, however, but they'll never outright say "this is the last one".
For me, there's still plenty of African "safari" animals that could be added to the game but realistically the last pack kinda stole the last potential headliner for such a pack IMHO (i.e., black rhino). So it's not happening; I agree with you. Haha.

I'm expecting something similar for the last pack, whenever it hits. A relatively generic/loose theme to work in a whole mess of things people really want, the last remaining highly-wanted animals, new shops, etc. I still have my fingers crossed for scaling before the game's end too but I definitely think a scenario editor is likely.
Frontier openly said in one financal video they are doing that as last cash grab. PC got one, JWE got one, PZ is getting one and go on.
Doing what as a "last cash grab" and for what game? Can you link to the video? I'm still not sure what you're getting at but I'd love to hear what Frontier said!
 
Why does everyone keep bringing up a "Safari Pack"? We've already had an Africa DLC, and then the arid DLC covered more of those bases. The "Safari" is pretty much covered thematically from Frontier's perspective. Additional African animals, such as the highly-requested baboon or something like the serval or whatever, would just be bonuses, there's no chance they'll dedicate another full DLC to Africa.
I personally have enough african animals that i still want to fill a safari animal pack: Secretary, dik dik, honey badger, grey crowned, guereza, baboon, eland (although 2 birds and 2 monkeys seem like a no go for frontier lol)
But a safari pack doesnt have to be africa exclusive, india is also well known for them, so blackbuck and nilgai are also candidates, i guess you could even fit the rhea and mara in here if you really want
 
If we did get a final pack with a generic theme to fit more of what everybody wants I wonder what they would label it as. Maybe something like "Legacy Expansion Pack" with 10-15 species including highly requested animals like the Secretary Bird, Hamadryas Baboon, Black Handed Spider Monkey, WTE Tamarins and Marmosets, etc, all signs and statues for all animals, and thats really all I need. If we do get North American pieces in a Temperate Pack in the Fall, after that I'm kinda done with scenery. I'll always take more especially more backstage items, but I don't need anything more than a NA building set. The statues and signs feel like something they would do for a final pack.

As for WTE birds, I lose hope every DLC we get, if the next pack is temperate we could supposedly see hummingbirds but even that feels like a stretch.
 
I'm expecting something similar for the last pack, whenever it hits. A relatively generic/loose theme to work in a whole mess of things people really want, the last remaining highly-wanted animals, new shops, etc. I still have my fingers crossed for scaling before the game's end too but I definitely think a scenario editor is likely.
I'm thinking it may not have a good idea to expect something like this, but hope for it. I'm hoping for it myself, but there's no indication that Frontier will do this kind of pack...in fact there's no indication of any themes that are coming up. We're all just pushing our personal wants or generally acknowledged high profile missing niches more strongly,

I made the comment about having a pack like this as an idea, some people (myself included) may be putting that out there because we don't know how else to fit in certain animals like the Baboon or Secretary Bird. We can say "Frontier is holding off on them because they'll be in/headlining (pick your theme) type of pack" What if they're not holding off on them them but rather they don't have an intention to include them at all.

At this point, there is no clues to what animals may be coming. Pointing out the Tasmanian Devil, Secretary Bird and Wolverine as the meta list leaders certainly makes their names more likely to pop up in lists, again my own included, but there's no actual evidence any of them will be included.
 
We are still missing a Baboon species, the African Leopard and Secretary Bird so I still believe a safari pack is quite likely. Especially if the dlcs continue into next year Add in a couple of antelope species and youve got yourself a decent pack. Nile Crocodile has also been mentioned.
Serval, Honey badger and Black backed jackal 🙏🏽
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I also have a list of african animals i still want (grey crowned crane, marabou stork, helmeted guineafowl, secretary bird, greater kudu, Impala, gerenuk, dik dik, honey badger, black backed jackal, serval, african leopard, gelada, Oliver baboon or vervet monkey, guereza, galago) BUT what i don't want is another pack fully dedicated to África because even though i would like those animals they are not a priority compared to other regions.
 
Why does everyone keep bringing up a "Safari Pack"? We've already had an Africa DLC, and then the arid DLC covered more of those bases. The "Safari" is pretty much covered thematically from Frontier's perspective. Additional African animals, such as the highly-requested baboon or something like the serval or whatever, would just be bonuses, there's no chance they'll dedicate another full DLC to Africa.
Because a safari is not something exclusive from Africa.

Here in Brazil we have safaris on pantanal(a massive swamp biome), which includes boats and jeeps, there you can see animals like jaguars, capybaras, howler monkeys, rheas, Jabirus, tamanduas, caimans and other animals. There's safari in India aswell with blackbucks, nilgalis, gaurs, etc. There's no point in make a safari pack africa/arid exclusive like.

For example imagine a safari pack like this:
Secretary bird
Rhea
Howler monkey
Dik dik
Serval
African spurred tortoise
Blackbuck
Bearded vulture (WE)

Not to much focus on africa, and accurated to the theme
 
Because a safari is not something exclusive from Africa.

Here in Brazil we have safaris on pantanal(a massive swamp biome), which includes boats and jeeps, there you can see animals like jaguars, capybaras, howler monkeys, rheas, Jabirus, tamanduas, caimans and other animals. There's safari in India aswell with blackbucks, nilgalis, gaurs, etc. There's no point in make a safari pack africa/arid exclusive like.

For example imagine a safari pack like this:
Secretary bird
Rhea
Howler monkey
Dik dik
Serval
African spurred tortoise
Blackbuck
Bearded vulture (WE)

Not to much focus on africa, and accurated to the theme
3 birds in one pack is......well, it would be nice. But also not likely. Other than that, a good mix of continents for sure.
 
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