Game Discussions Bethesda Softworks Starfield Space RPG

Also please don't be worried about the community for this game, its super clear that definitely playstation and probably star citizen players are probably destroyed by starfield so you have to discount that before taking alot of the junk seriously in the starfield discussion.
Most of the star citizen idiots 👈 from what I can gather from general SC chat around t'interweb are properly looking forward to playing Starfield. From recent events in Ci~G's dumpsterfire development, there's not a lot of good will left for the Empire of Roberts or even a vain hope of playing star citizen or Sqn 404 any year soon :)
 
So why spoil it for yourself with crappy screenshots and videos?
I don't mind spoilers at all...even watched some full game walkthroughs for some games on YouTube here and there before I ever played them...The Last of Us (part 1 & 2) and Horizon Forbidden West to name a couple in particular which I watched before TLoU was ever on PC and I didn't have a PS5 to play any of them. Personally, having a preview kinda increases my anticipation rather than spoils it 🤷‍♂️
 
You could try to hide behind the titels, but it won't change the fact that a Planet is still a Planet and Space Exploration exists in both games. In ED Space Exploation consist of landing on Planets ( among other things), in Starfield it will be about landing on tiles. It's a huge immersion breaker.

My ability to immersed in a game must be more robust than others, because it depends upon consistency of setting, good gameplay, and ideally interesting stories… not the capacity to pull “because it was there” stunts. I doubt I’ll ever have the time to circumnavigate even a tiny world in Elite Dangerous in a ship, let alone an SRV or on foot. And that goes double for Starfield.

Realistically, I don’t see much functional difference between surface exploration in ED, and surface exploration in Starfield: in both cases, I’m landing on a part of a planet I’m hoping will be interesting, and exploring a small region around my ship.

Only in the case of Starfield, I get to explore not just barren worlds, but the worlds I’ve been denied landing on for nearly ten years now: life bearing worlds. Worlds I used to to be able to land upon in previous games of the franchise. Furthermore, it is likely I won’t be landing at that site on a whim, but as a result of an exploration mission. And it’s equally likely that this mission will gained directly for an NPC in the world, not a faceless bulletin board.
And that is something I’m willing to sacrifice a technically possible but something I’d never do stunt for. It’s a pity I also have to sacrifice manual landings for that as well, but I knew that would be the case long ago.
 
I don't mind spoilers at all...even watched some full game walkthroughs for some games on YouTube here and there before I ever played them...The Last of Us (part 1 & 2) and Horizon Forbidden West to name a couple in particular which I watched before TLoU was ever on PC and I didn't have a PS5 to play any of them. Personally, having a preview kinda increases my anticipation rather than spoils it 🤷‍♂️
Each to their own. To me it's like watching those movie trailers that condense the whole film into 5 minutes of only the good bits. I've watched plenty of playthroughs, but most have been games I won't play, or some like RDR2 to find the bits I missed.
 
My ability to immersed in a game must be more robust than others, because it depends upon consistency of setting, good gameplay, and ideally interesting stories… not the capacity to pull “because it was there” stunts. I doubt I’ll ever have the time to circumnavigate even a tiny world in Elite Dangerous in a ship, let alone an SRV or on foot. And that goes double for Starfield.

Realistically, I don’t see much functional difference between surface exploration in ED, and surface exploration in Starfield: in both cases, I’m landing on a part of a planet I’m hoping will be interesting, and exploring a small region around my ship.

Only in the case of Starfield, I get to explore not just barren worlds, but the worlds I’ve been denied landing on for nearly ten years now: life bearing worlds. Worlds I used to to be able to land upon in previous games of the franchise. Furthermore, it is likely I won’t be landing at that site on a whim, but as a result of an exploration mission. And it’s equally likely that this mission will gained directly for an NPC in the world, not a faceless bulletin board.
And that is something I’m willing to sacrifice a technically possible but something I’d never do stunt for. It’s a pity I also have to sacrifice manual landings for that as well, but I knew that would be the case long ago.
That's what I did in ED. Visiting new places. When I landed on a plent I was always seeing new places. All the planets I visited in ED. All the canyons, mountains, hills, gullies, craters, debris fields. They were all generated in a seeded procgen and I could have revisited them again. But getting there was a pain in the rear. So I didn't and the seeded procgen for me in ED was just not existent. It could all have been RNG generated and I would have never known and I would have never cared. In fact I never bothered. The only recurring stuff was bases. ED was just too many, too much for a single human to play. And then the many and much wasn't filled with enough interesting stuff.
 
Just as an aside...and this obviously still isn't including Xbox or PC gamepass pre-orders :oops:


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(not so?) controversial opinion:

1) People play it with cheats.
2) Get banned
3) Create a new Steam account with a new email
4) Download again
5) Go to 1

I think FTP games should be excluded from the top selling lists.
Why would they? And en masse - peristently for that long? I'd rather suspect some laundering activity. Is skin gambling still a thing?
 
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