Where Do We Go Now?

[Schmack]

When enough folks have engineered their suits and weps, what then? Where's the EDO economy vs Horizons? The mission payouts on foot (sans mats) are poverty level at best. Why would anyone take foot missions if they are fully kitted? I consider myself basically fully kitted and I've only been playing a couple weeks or so in EDO. I sell stuff from the carrier but that's not a viable economy as demand weens. I also don't notice mission payouts directly proportional with faction rep like the other mission board for ship based missions.

I will add that I am aware of exobiology rewards. It seems all else can be done from the Horizons version.

 

[Darrack]

Once i got what i needed i just do stuff for fun and ranks.
Credits are easy to get, exploration, combat, ground combat, trading etc, not that there is anything to spend it on

O7

 

[Schmack]

Once i got what i needed i just do stuff for fun and ranks.
Credits are easy to get, exploration, combat, ground combat, trading etc, not that there is anything to spend it on

O7

Of course, the Horizons route offers plenty credits and I won't struggle for sure, but why can't the same factions that pay 50m for killing a few pirates in ships pay something over 1m for a clandestine op to whack someone? Did FDev think they were going to reset the economy by going back to 2015 level payouts?

 

[Fixitman]

When all you care about is the goal, you miss out on enjoying the journey.

 

[Schmack]

When all you care about is the goal, you miss out on enjoying the journey.

Need that on a bumper sticker for my Dbx so the last living creature at the settlement can emotionally profit from it as I leave.

 

[R4dioS1lence]

Ody content is safer and faster (less time per mission, less pay both proportionately and per time, but no buyback and some missions don't even fail on death). If you lack entertainment on it, try doing heists and power down missions without both kills and alarms (even if the mission doesn't require it). Some layouts are quite challenging for that.

Maybe in the future some update may add some Ody missions that are above the current max difficulty grade and pay ship materials (as to have a link back to ship gameplay). But for now, that just means you enjoyed all you wanted on Ody, good job! Feel free to move along and try another thing. No one is pointing a gun at you and forcing you to stay enjoying Ody content.

 

[Shadowsnog]

When enough folks have engineered their suits and weps, what then?

use them

The mission payouts on foot (sans mats) are poverty level at best.

are they? i find getting mats from ody missions much better.

Why would anyone take foot missions if they are fully kitted?

fun

I sell stuff from the carrier but that's not a viable economy as demand weens.

depends on what you are selling i guess. today i checked the ody markets for the first time for some mats and ive found nothing


ed is a sandbox, you play it the way you want. if you want to play it in a completionist way then go ahead, but there inevitably will be a point where you will have it all. some people play just to have fun, some to roam the void, some do egotycoon...
you could as well ask what to do when one has all ships... theres still a ton o fun to be had with them i guess

 

[MVBanks]

AX Restoration mission in thargoid controlled systems are well paid, 9 -14 M, and they are something like mix between Horizons and Odyssey.
It's actually a good idea from FDev, how to combine Horizons and Odyssey content, because to get to the destination you have to use a ship that can survive hyper/interdiction, and then you have to use good on-foot equipment (and some experience) to solve the mission, and even the way back is not very easy.

I hope there will be more such combined content in the future.

 

[Schmack]

Ody content is safer and faster (less time per mission, less pay both proportionately and per time, but no buyback and some missions don't even fail on death). If you lack entertainment on it, try doing heists and power down missions without both kills and alarms (even if the mission doesn't require it). Some layouts are quite challenging for that.

Maybe in the future some update may add some Ody missions that are above the current max difficulty grade and pay ship materials (as to have a link back to ship gameplay). But for now, that just means you enjoyed all you wanted on Ody, good job! Feel free to move along and try another thing. No one is pointing a gun at you and forcing you to stay enjoying Ody content.

Why the toxic response?

 

[Fixitman]

Why the toxic response?

That may not have been meant as toxic, or your original post may have been misinterpreted as toxic. Such is the nature of text on a screen.

It's best to just take every response we can as kind and genuine. Those we can't should be reported. The moderators will sort them out

 

[HappyMoonMonkey]

Why the toxic response?

I'm genuinely struggling to see a gram of toxicity in that response.



As for my answer - use your kit to engage in the BGS for a player minor faction.

 

[Schmack]

use them

are they? i find getting mats from ody missions much better.

This is why I said "sans mats". Mats are fine if you need them or if you can sell them. Unlike Horizons mats, you cannot synthesize anything with them. Opinion polls, once used to unlock the engineer are only really good for selling to someone else to unlock the engineer. The goal is to have what that engineer offers. After that the materials are pointless and actually are just additional cargo. You can sell them to a bartender but I haven't done the math on what a normal raid rakes in in that regard.

fun

depends on what you are selling i guess. today i checked the ody markets for the first time for some mats and ive found nothing

Sure, but you're looking at carriers. The economy of material selling is still alive and well if you have the right few materials. No one is paying 10Kx for circuit boards. Graphene seems to do OK since they require so much of it.

ed is a sandbox, you play it the way you want. if you want to play it in a completionist way then go ahead, but there inevitably will be a point where you will have it all. some people play just to have fun, some to roam the void, some do egotycoon...
you could as well ask what to do when one has all ships... theres still a ton o fun to be had with them i guess

I've been playing ED since 2015. There's always a path to business. I am wondering what's the path for on foot missions and why the difference in payout is so stark. A courier mission in Horizons pays about 5x what a massacre mission pays for on foot missions. So after "I don't need materials", will commanders just go back to operating from their ships and basically avoiding on foot missions other than perhaps conflict zones?

 

[Schmack]

I'm genuinely struggling to see a gram of toxicity in that response.

" Feel free to move along and try another thing. No one is pointing a gun at you and forcing you to stay enjoying Ody content." is a toxic response since the OP wasn't a complaint about lack of content. You don't need to agree.

As for my answer - use your kit to engage in the BGS for a player minor faction.

I wasn't asking for an activity I should do now. I am asking about the viability of having the EDO content be the business model for commanders who engage in business activities. Maybe I wasn't clear. If so that's my mistake.

 

[Schmack]

AX Restoration mission in thargoid controlled systems are well paid, 9 -14 M, and they are something like mix between Horizons and Odyssey.
It's actually a good idea from FDev, how to combine Horizons and Odyssey content, because to get to the destination you have to use a ship that can survive hyper/interdiction, and then you have to use good on-foot equipment (and some experience) to solve the mission, and even the way back is not very easy.

I hope there will be more such combined content in the future.

I haven't explored those yet. I have read a lot about them though, seems these are providing at least some of the market demand for power regulators. Thanks, I will investigate these. Just curious if the entire mission board role was to get you the materials you need for upgrading since the RNG on some of the data is not friendly.

 

[SteveWW57]

If looking for something to do, regime change. Find a system with an anarchy faction and create a farming system. Takes some effort, and is challenging.

Steve

 

[Shadowsnog]

ed is great game if you dont overthink it. well, overthink might be a bit strong word. elite is great game if you dont think about it because then you will have handguns that cost more than starships; starships that can land by themselves when you are out of the ship, but need special module to land when you are in the ship etc...
i find ody content great fun. cant say that my gear is completed, but i made a g5 maverick with some g4 weapons and stopped caring about engineering (for some time). i can comfortably do everything that i need/want to do and im perfectly fine with that. cant say that i find it any obstruction on the fun. and fun i consider the ultimate goal here, gear gathering/upgrading is just a means to get more fun. so i dont consider having completed gear to be any hindrance.
the game systems and mechanics not making sense, thats just elite. if it just works somehow then theres nothing to fix, eh?

 

[Felix DiCestria]

The suits and guns are just tools. Exobio is known to be a money spinner and EDO stuff apparently has a hefty effect on BGS.
The AX reactivations are good if you can deal with Glaives and know how to use an L6.
Plus whatever is coming at the barnacle matrices.

 

[vanFace]

Why would anyone take foot missions if they are fully kitted?

Legal settlement massacre missions are great for gaining combat rank as well as earning ARX. I usually log in for a quick relaxing killing spree to reach the weekly ARX threshold, then forget about Elite for a week and play other games. Rinse, repeat.

 

[Rat Catcher]

When enough folks have engineered their suits and weps, what then?

I eliminate all the inhabitants of Lawful settlements, just for fun...

 

[Jack Winter]

I haven't explored those yet. I have read a lot about them though, seems these are providing at least some of the market demand for power regulators. Thanks, I will investigate these. Just curious if the entire mission board role was to get you the materials you need for upgrading since the RNG on some of the data is not friendly.

A bit simplified but IMO raiding and/or restore settlements (or others) for goods and assets. The mission board for the bulk of data is the way to go. If RNGezus smiles at me I can pick up 30 MIs in an hour or two doing quick simple assassination missions. Some things are close to impossible to find, like SDPs but you'll only need those for one engineer unlock.

I just started leveling a new alt, and knowing the ropes I'd say that I probably average an unlock, suit/weapon upgrade, or module every 5 hours or so. Been really enjoying zipping around with APEX to gather mats, or doing on foot CZ for BGS reasons. Don't think I'll run out of stuff to do on foot, as there are many combinations of suit/weapon modules that I want to try. I don't really play to upgrade the stuff, but it's nice to get some reward every few hours of playing.