Ideas for dinosaurs that could live in the lagoon.

Paleoguy

Paleoguy
This idea was brought up by other members of the community. What if we could have a dinosaur be able to live in a lagoon setting? It would have to be a semiaquatic dinosaur. The idea of Spinosaurus in the lagoon was proposed in a thread. Personally I would love to see Spinosaurus swimming and hunting fish, but that may not be doable with the JP3 model. I also made a thread earlier about ideas for the lagoon and using the rock platforms to introduce species that could work well in that setting. Here is a list of dinosaurs that could work well. I took account the sizes of the animals for this idea. Probably smaller to medium would be best, because of the platform size. But, their is a Spinosaurid species that could work, but it would be large. If the species was made, it would be best to be showcased in the lagoons.

The first choice is a recently discovered species.
Natovenator polydontus
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The animal has been named Natovenator polydontus, meaning “swimming hunter with many teeth.” The fossilised remains of Natovenator were discovered in Omnogovi Province in Mongolia's Gobi Desert.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-NmRB9KTX4



Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63FkHeWFo2I



Oxalaia​

I do know that the community has mixed feelings about this particular dinosaur. It is only known from a few pieces found of its jaws. That being said, it does present an opportunity to introduce a more paleo accurate version of the Spinosaurus.
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If Oxalia is not the best candidate, there are other spinosaurs from Brazil. Here is a scientific paper on the subject.

Semi-aquatic adaptations in a spinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of Brazil​

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Fossil discovery proves massive African dinosaur Spinosaurus was actually a semi-aquatic 'river monster'​


www.abc.net.au

Fossil discovery proves massive African dinosaur was actually a semi-aquatic 'river monster'

Scientists say recently unearthed tail bones prove the 15-metre-long Spinosaurus could swim well enough to "actively pursue prey", including sharks, in the water.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au


Halszkaraptor
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Halszkaraptor (/ˈhɑːlʃkəræptər/; meaning "Halszka's seizer") is a genus of waterfowl-like dromaeosaurid dinosaurs from Mongolia that lived during the Late Cretaceous period. It contains only one known species, Halszkaraptor escuilliei.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnOmmlvTjIs
 
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The Carcharodontogenius

The Carcharodontogenius
Paleoguy said:
This idea was brought up by other members of the community. What if we could have a dinosaur be able to live in a lagoon setting? It would have to be a semiaquatic dinosaur. The idea of Spinosaurus in the lagoon was proposed in a thread. Personally I would love to see Spinosaurus swimming and hunting fish, but that may not be doable with the JP3 model. I also made a thread earlier about ideas for the lagoon and using the rock platforms to introduce species that could work well in that setting. Here is a list of dinosaurs that could work well. I took account the sizes of the animals for this idea. Probably smaller to medium would be best, because of the platform size. But, their is a Spinosaurid species that could work, but it would be large. If the species was made, it would be best to be showcased in the lagoons.

The first choice is a recently discovered species.
Natovenator polydontus
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The animal has been named Natovenator polydontus, meaning “swimming hunter with many teeth.” The fossilised remains of Natovenator were discovered in Omnogovi Province in Mongolia's Gobi Desert.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-NmRB9KTX4



Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63FkHeWFo2I



Oxalaia​

I do know that the community has mixed feelings about this particular dinosaur. It is only known from a few pieces found of its jaws. That being said, it does present an opportunity to introduce a more paleo accurate version of the Spinosaurus.
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If Oxalia is not the best candidate, there are other spinosaurs from Brazil. Here is a scientific paper on the subject.

Semi-aquatic adaptations in a spinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of Brazil​

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Fossil discovery proves massive African dinosaur Spinosaurus was actually a semi-aquatic 'river monster'​


www.abc.net.au

Fossil discovery proves massive African dinosaur was actually a semi-aquatic 'river monster'

Scientists say recently unearthed tail bones prove the 15-metre-long Spinosaurus could swim well enough to "actively pursue prey", including sharks, in the water.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au


Halszkaraptor
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Halszkaraptor (/ˈhɑːlʃkəræptər/; meaning "Halszka's seizer") is a genus of waterfowl-like dromaeosaurid dinosaurs from Mongolia that lived during the Late Cretaceous period. It contains only one known species, Halszkaraptor escuilliei.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnOmmlvTjIs
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I'd sure like to see Liopleurodon attacking the Oxalaia & Spinosaurus in the lagoon once this happens.
 

Paleoguy

Paleoguy
DragonNTiger said:
How about no? Putting terrestrial animals that hunted in swamps and rivers into a system designed to simulate open oceans is a dumber idea than putting Nothosaurus in the lagoon...
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I do understand your point, I was really thinking of Natovenator. The non dinosaur idea was Hesperornis. It would be nice to get as many different types of animals in the game that actually could live in the same biome or enclosure.
 
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DragonNTiger

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Paleoguy said:
I do understand your point, I was really thinking of Natovenator. The non dinosaur idea was Hesperornis. It would be nice to get as many different types of animals in the game that actually could live in the same biome or enclosure.
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The problem with those guys is that they're tiny... much smaller than any current lagoon animal. Natovenator in particular I believe is even smaller than compsognathus... in a huge lagoon, swimming largely on the surface, they're basically invisible.
 

DragonNTiger

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Paleoguy said:
Being Jurassic World they could manipulate the size to something guests could see. Maybe Compy size or a little bigger. I would hope we had a true prehistoric bird in the game. Hesperornis is a great size. And it would be perfect for the lagoon.

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Resize an animal too much, especially one notable for its size, and you'll end up with another Giganotosaurus situation... Hesperornis would probably work.
 

Vanguard 1998

Vanguard 1998
The Carcharodontogenius said:
Why not in the next update, we get lagoons with shallower waters?
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DragonNTiger said:
It's a coastal dweller... it lived near the shore and shallower waters, not in the middle of the open ocean, which is what the lagoon is.
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I might have some suggestions for how resolve this; although I don't how feasible these are. My suggestions are:
1: The developers to give us the ability to control the depth of the lagoons. The Zoo Tycoon games had a function that allowed players to increase and decrease the height of aquarium walls. The only problem is the way the walls for aquariums were done in the game is more like the way we do fences in this game; so I don't know if it could work in this game.
2: Another option, which was also present in the Zoo Tycoon, is to give players the ability to put salt water in terrestrial enclosures by differentiating between fresh and salt water. Again I don't know how feasible that is given by default land based enclosures only receive fresh water.
3: The developers could also offer the ability to put artificial beaches on the edges of aquarium enclosures.
The third suggestion would be ideal for coastal species like Nothosaurus and Hesperornis. I don't think aquatic dinosaurs would fit into aquarium that well, because most of them were only semi aquatic and spent a lot of their time on land. I think species like Hesperornis could make nice additions. Some marine species that could work include:
Baptornis, A genus of flightless, aquatic birds from the Late Cretaceous, some 87-80 million years ago found in Kansas and Sweden. At the time it was alive time, Kansas was mostly covered by the Western Interior Seaway, a shallow shelf sea. Othniel Charles Marsh discovered the first fossils of this bird in the 1870s. This was, alongside the Archaeopteryx, one of the first Mesozoic birds to become known to science.
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Chupkaornis, A genus of prehistoric flightless birds from the Late Cretaceous (Coniacian-Santonian) Kashima Formation of Hokkaido, Japan. It is the best-preserved hesperornithiform material from Asia and it is the first report of hesperornithiforms from the eastern margin of the Eurasian continent. The genus name was made
from the combination of the Ainu word ‘chupka’, meaning ‘eastern’, and the Greek ‘ornis’ for bird.
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Thalattosaurus, An extinct genus of marine reptile from the late Triassic period in the family Thalattosauroidea found in the Sulphur Mountain Formation of British Columbia and the Upper Triassic Hosselkus Limestone of California. It has gained notoriety as a result of studies on general diapsid phylogeny. They were aquatic diapsids that are known exclusively from the Triassic period. It was a 2–3 metres (6.6–9.8 ft) long shellfish-eating reptile with paddle-like limbs and a down-turned rostrum. Its name means sea lizard.
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Wantzosaurus, A genus of temnospondyl amphibian of the Trematosauridae family. (Trematosaurids were a family of of large marine temnospondyl amphibians.) Fossils have been found in the Early Triassic Middle Sakamena Formation (Sakamena Group) of what is now Madagascar. It showed adaptations for an almost completely aquatic lifestyle, having the ability to swim by lateral undulation.

Microposaurus, an extinct genus of trematosaurid temnospondyl. Fossils are known from the Cynognathus Assemblage Zone of the Beaufort Group (part of the Karoo Supergroup) in South Africa and the Rouse Hill Siltstone of Australia that date back to the Anisian stage of the Middle Triassic.
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Tanystropheus, An extinct genus of archosauromorph reptile which lived during the Triassic Period in Europe, Asia, and North America. Tanystropheus is one of the most well-described non-archosauriform archosauromorphs, known from numerous fossils, including nearly complete skeletons. Some species within the genus may have reached a total length of 6 meters (20 ft), making Tanystropheus the longest non-archosauriform archosauromorph as well. Its genus name means long hinged.
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Paleoguy

Paleoguy
Vanguard 1998 said:
I might have some suggestions for how resolve this; although I don't how feasible these are. My suggestions are:
1: The developers to give us the ability to control the depth of the lagoons. The Zoo Tycoon games had a function that allowed players to increase and decrease the height of aquarium walls. The only problem is the way the walls for aquariums were done in the game is more like the way we do fences in this game; so I don't know if it could work in this game.
2: Another option, which was also present in the Zoo Tycoon, is to give players the ability to put salt water in terrestrial enclosures by differentiating between fresh and salt water. Again I don't know how feasible that is given by default land based enclosures only receive fresh water.
3: The developers could also offer the ability to put artificial beaches on the edges of aquarium enclosures.
The third suggestion would be ideal for coastal species like Nothosaurus and Hesperornis. I don't think aquatic dinosaurs would fit into aquarium that well, because most of them were only semi aquatic and spent a lot of their time on land. I think species like Hesperornis could make nice additions. Some marine species that could work include:
Baptornis, A genus of flightless, aquatic birds from the Late Cretaceous, some 87-80 million years ago found in Kansas and Sweden. At the time it was alive time, Kansas was mostly covered by the Western Interior Seaway, a shallow shelf sea. Othniel Charles Marsh discovered the first fossils of this bird in the 1870s. This was, alongside the Archaeopteryx, one of the first Mesozoic birds to become known to science.
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Chupkaornis, A genus of prehistoric flightless birds from the Late Cretaceous (Coniacian-Santonian) Kashima Formation of Hokkaido, Japan. It is the best-preserved hesperornithiform material from Asia and it is the first report of hesperornithiforms from the eastern margin of the Eurasian continent. The genus name was made
from the combination of the Ainu word ‘chupka’, meaning ‘eastern’, and the Greek ‘ornis’ for bird.
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Thalattosaurus, An extinct genus of marine reptile from the late Triassic period in the family Thalattosauroidea found in the Sulphur Mountain Formation of British Columbia and the Upper Triassic Hosselkus Limestone of California. It has gained notoriety as a result of studies on general diapsid phylogeny. They were aquatic diapsids that are known exclusively from the Triassic period. It was a 2–3 metres (6.6–9.8 ft) long shellfish-eating reptile with paddle-like limbs and a down-turned rostrum. Its name means sea lizard.
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Wantzosaurus, A genus of temnospondyl amphibian of the Trematosauridae family. (Trematosaurids were a family of of large marine temnospondyl amphibians.) Fossils have been found in the Early Triassic Middle Sakamena Formation (Sakamena Group) of what is now Madagascar. It showed adaptations for an almost completely aquatic lifestyle, having the ability to swim by lateral undulation.

Microposaurus, an extinct genus of trematosaurid temnospondyl. Fossils are known from the Cynognathus Assemblage Zone of the Beaufort Group (part of the Karoo Supergroup) in South Africa and the Rouse Hill Siltstone of Australia that date back to the Anisian stage of the Middle Triassic.
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Tanystropheus, An extinct genus of archosauromorph reptile which lived during the Triassic Period in Europe, Asia, and North America. Tanystropheus is one of the most well-described non-archosauriform archosauromorphs, known from numerous fossils, including nearly complete skeletons. Some species within the genus may have reached a total length of 6 meters (20 ft), making Tanystropheus the longest non-archosauriform archosauromorph as well. Its genus name means long hinged.
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I really like these ideas. I always thought it would be cool to have different shades of blues or turquoise for the lagoon. A way to make it look different and have water that looks like freshwater. It would be nice if the terrain of the lagoon floor could be manipulated. Brushes for the lagoon. Being able to put rocks inside. Selections of vegetation.
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DragonNTiger

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Vanguard 1998 said:
3: The developers could also offer the ability to put artificial beaches on the edges of aquarium enclosures.
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Sigh... this here was basically my idea for implementing semi-aquatic animals into JWE2; create a pool system that functions similar to aviaries and lagoons, giving us something similar to what existed in Zoo Tycoon (albeit without the ability to adjust heights) that allows us to build pools with smooth edge that run parallel to the terrain so our semi-aquatic animals can easily crawl in and out of them... then semi-aquatic animals could be put in regular terrestrial enclosures, yet still have a place to swim. Considering how they handled Nothosaurus... I fear that option is no longer plausible...
 

Vanguard 1998

Vanguard 1998
DragonNTiger said:
Sigh... this here was basically my idea for implementing semi-aquatic animals into JWE2; create a pool system that functions similar to aviaries and lagoons, giving us something similar to what existed in Zoo Tycoon (albeit without the ability to adjust heights) that allows us to build pools with smooth edge that run parallel to the terrain so our semi-aquatic animals can easily crawl in and out of them... then semi-aquatic animals could be put in regular terrestrial enclosures, yet still have a place to swim. Considering how they handled Nothosaurus... I fear that option is no longer plausible...
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Sorry. I was not trying to steal your idea.
 
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