Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?

I wonder - whilst there was a test right at the start as to whether sampling works in Matrix systems, it was done before we actually understood how the system works. Is it plausible sampling does work there and we just missed the effect?
 
I think it’s unlikely to, if the rule of non-standard activities holds true. Though throwing a few hundred at the problem would probably reveal if it would have an effect, and why not do some testing if you’ve got the time, with nowhere else to spend it. Perhaps at a less active spire would do for more reliable results. (Or try the ones at Taranis to… possibly… support that.)

Maybe the sampling might indirectly be able to support the spire clearing activity by taking out a few uninhabited systems, perhaps? Or will removing some of the ‘reinforcing’ perimeter not do anything to speed up their progress?

(Or you could try sampling the Orthrus, but it will probably be more effective to just shoot them.)
 
With Taranis expected to place four outer Alerts this week (targeting five, no usable backtracks) then this is going to suggest recapturing one of HIP 23816 or (easier) Hyades Sector GB-N b7-0

Definitely that will have to be the plan closer to the end of the week! If we end up around 85% then I think we could deliver HIP 23816, given that the Carrier order appears to be that the first loaded is also the first unloaded, otherwise we can just complete the remains of Hyades Sector GB-N b7-0. With that schedule I think we will need the Alert stopped at Njorog—really any Invasion is all but guaranteed to stop Peripheral progress!


I wonder - whilst there was a test right at the start as to whether sampling works in Matrix systems, it was done before we actually understood how the system works. Is it plausible sampling does work there and we just missed the effect?

We could give it one harvest round, albeit unlikely indeed; I will watch for anything noticeable after delivery. Alongside that, is Swahku now collected, and moreover can one expect the Peripheral progress rate to rise? We could account for probably a further 5% this week without doing anything else, but that seems quite a bit short of a comfortable completion and it comes with a quite steep price elsewhere.
 
We could give it one harvest round, albeit unlikely indeed; I will watch for anything noticeable after delivery. Alongside that, is Swahku now collected, and moreover can one expect the Peripheral progress rate to rise? We could account for probably a further 5% this week without doing anything else, but that seems quite a bit short of a comfortable completion and it comes with a quite steep price elsewhere.
Swakhu is now complete. I’m uncertain how much of an effect the forces freed up will actually have, though - we’ll just need to wait and see.
 
On the testing front, 400 has been delivered for Trianguli Sector BA-A d85 with a fresh report at 33.2280%, noting that some granularity causes the lower-strength Hyades Sector DQ-O b6-0 to report 33.2281%. Even if a slight jump could be coincidence, I would be quite happy to continue delivering if said coincidence continues occurring!

Additional: The latter became 33.8430%, matching approximately the background activity, so if there is an effect it is nothing dramatic.
 
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Definitely that will have to be the plan closer to the end of the week! If we end up around 85% then I think we could deliver HIP 23816, given that the Carrier order appears to be that the first loaded is also the first unloaded, otherwise we can just complete the remains of Hyades Sector GB-N b7-0. With that schedule I think we will need the Alert stopped at Njorog—really any Invasion is all but guaranteed to stop Peripheral progress!
Having done a few tests comparing with the fleet carrier API, first loaded was NOT the first unloaded. Nor, for was last loaded the first unloaded.
 
I wonder - whilst there was a test right at the start as to whether sampling works in Matrix systems, it was done before we actually understood how the system works. Is it plausible sampling does work there and we just missed the effect?
Grimm and I tested it when 17 launched, didn't work.
 
Grimm and I tested it when 17 launched, didn't work.
-- At the time there had been a delivery to another maelstrom As i was loading to transfer off the carrier that hadn't shown success, but i think this was before we knew the outer 10 rule.
Think the samples we had were EQ-Y b0, which wasn't in the top 10 that first week? - so... idk.
 
-- At the time there had been a delivery to another maelstrom As i was loading to transfer off the carrier that hadn't shown success, but i think this was before we knew the outer 10 rule.
Think the samples we had were EQ-Y b0, which wasn't in the top 10 that first week? - so... idk.
You know what I think I remember that as well now. It wasn't in the top 10. Could be worth another 100 check. May mess with it in cocijo when we go to test this orthrus debacle
 
For what it is worth, I had three quite nice rescue runs with full 192-holds earlier, with all 576 delivered recently. I can feel a tutorial oncoming, so I thought to record some video of it and ask whether there are any drastic improvements to be made—quite politely given the 43 minutes duration.

Among the recordings are:
  • A full video with arrival, rescue process and departure.
  • A quick Glaive escape using ECM and a high mass-lock factor.
  • Just for casual interest, irksome interdiction by the Maelstrom which kept occurring yesterday and taking 2% of my module integrity before starting.
Obviously a big change could be to use class 8 cargo and survive with a class 6 shield, leaving some class 6 module slots open. I know also the express exfiltration; while recording I opted to maintain continuity and look at the nice pulse.

It lacks the glamour of exploding things and it brings a feeling of loneliness while out by the Titan, but it is a nice new challenge and ought to be the best thing one Commander can do for the Periphery progress!
 
It lacks the glamour of exploding things
Not all heroes wear capes. Or, I guess in this case, (don’t) go in guns blazing and blast everything within sight. We’d probably need a counter to the anti-Guardian field to do anything meaningful in that regard first, and if the option presents itself, I would still prefer a non-violent resolution to the conflict.
 
Victories in Cephei Sector FB-X b1-1, Trianguli Sector CA-A c15, Arietis Sectors XJ-R b4-2 and XJ-R b4-1, Col 285 Sector SH-B b14-4, HIP 21918 and Hyades Sector JN-K b8-3!

Very thankfully M. Taranis is at least ahead for reaching 66%, which would be just enough that we can modify its perimeter slightly and extend those penultimate Matrix systems by one week, although notably a little extra rate would be enough to complete it this week. It has hastened from being on the cusp of one day behind to being only two-thirds behind, yielding the prospect reaching on-course or even one-third ahead. Definitely I will continue giving it a little extra!

Peripheries at 07:40 6th November 3309:
Seven systems with 46%Taranis 11–13 Ly, 2 matrix + 1 inhabited, 3327–21.2k strength
Seven systems with 46%Indra 22–23 Ly, 1 matrix, 356–432 strength
Six systems with 18%Thor 18–19 Ly, 1 inhabited, 1224–5463 strength

Alerts:
Mahlina Alert 94% — Cocijo 21 Ly, 224 Ls outpost
Nu Guang Alert 88% *89.7%Raijin 19 Ly, 44 Ls starport, 1040 Ls outpost, 44 Ls planet
HIP 11111 Alert 84% — Oya 24 Ly, 2567 Ls outpost, 2474 Ls planet
HIP 20890 Alert 74% — Indra 22 Ly, 1609 Ls outpost, 6876 Ls planet
Vistnero Alert 32% — Raijin 21 Ly, 147 Ls starport, 521 Ls outpost, 147 Ls planet

Clean-up:
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-109 Control 56% — Cocijo 22 Ly, 368 strength, Peripheral system
Hyades Sector DQ-O b6-0 Matrix 46% *46.2%Taranis 12 Ly
HR 1358 Matrix 46% *46.2%Indra 22 Ly
 
For what it is worth, I had three quite nice rescue runs with full 192-holds earlier, with all 576 delivered recently. I can feel a tutorial oncoming, so I thought to record some video of it and ask whether there are any drastic improvements to be made—quite politely given the 43 minutes duration.
Obviously a big change could be to use class 8 cargo and survive with a class 6 shield, leaving some class 6 module slots open. I know also the express exfiltration; while recording I opted to maintain continuity and look at the nice pulse.
Indeed I use a class 8 and a class 6 Cargo Rack, so you can get 320 Pods (just delivered a full load at M. Taranis). The 6C Biwave Shield works very well und recharges quick enough... but it is important to avoid attacks...
If it is of any interest: I use this build: https://edsy.org/s/v8bLyKD
 
Honestly cannot get myself to take a Cutter to a Titan for a (mostly) stealth-based task. Even though I know it is not tied to the maneuverability or size of the vessel, my brain just does not want to accept it.

Good to know it works quite well in the event that I do, though.
 
Indeed I use a class 8 and a class 6 Cargo Rack, so you can get 320 Pods (just delivered a full load at M. Taranis). The 6C Biwave Shield works very well und recharges quick enough... but it is important to avoid attacks...
If it is of any interest: I use this build: https://edsy.org/s/v8bLyKD

Thank you ever so much for helping at M. Taranis!

Looking at the outfitting, mine was almost identical, including the module and hull reinforcement. I had the ECM instead of one Heat sink, the Shield class swapped with one Cargo of course, and a third Cargo where you had space for more Collectors. If you wanted, I think you have the option to get one more Collector drone by swapping the AFMU and Collector classes.

Either way, I will try the class 6 Shield later!


Honestly cannot get myself to take a Cutter to a Titan for a (mostly) stealth-based task. Even though I know it is not tied to the maneuverability or size of the vessel, my brain just does not want to accept it.
Good to know it works quite well in the event that I do, though.

The Imperial Cutter is not even particularly clumsy for a heavy, if you use gear-boosts! It does not have quite the same right-angle power as the Mamba gear-boost, but it performs well if the trajectory change involves a general reversal (mathematically, like a negative dot-product).

If it helps for imagining a quite sneaky Cutter more so than mine with its quite lush Emissary Red, here is a picture from a friend pretending to be a Hydra:

Camouflage Maelstrom Cutter.jpg
 
Looking at the outfitting, mine was almost identical, including the module and hull reinforcement. I had the ECM instead of one Heat sink, the Shield class swapped with one Cargo of course, and a third Cargo where you had space for more Collectors. If you wanted, I think you have the option to get one more Collector drone by swapping the AFMU and Collector classes.
Thanks for your hint concerning the AFMU. I changed it to a class 5 collector - and kept the class 3 as well (no more AFMU), so 13 collectors are working at the same time. My 320 tons of cargo space were filled within 40 minutes.
 
Well in any case, it looks like there is at least a slight chance Taranis will go to or over the 70% mark for the periohery this week.

Which, I might add, feels like it’s been a bit of a slower one in regards to the spire activity overall, even putting aside the difficulty increase(which itself was not that surprising to me, seemed a little too easy to flip the spires for those first two weeks - others might disagree though, which is fine).
 
Total peripheral activity after just over 4 days is 129%
After the first day it was 34% - which would suggest, even without allowing for a weekend boost, it should be at around 150% by now.

It's likely that the difficulty boost - by moving useful progress to be something only the most organised efforts can get, and as Aleks pointed out earlier making it a very inefficient way to hit anything that isn't either a spire or right next to the Titan - has caused some groups to refocus their efforts on something more immediately useful.

(Given the permanent advantages gained by disabling a Maelstrom entirely, and that they've presumably got some extra plot to roll out with Palin first, making it tough but just about possible to take out the weaker ones seems reasonable)
 
Victories in Mahlina, HIP 11111 and Nu Guang!

Definitely M. Taranis ought to be within comfortable reach of maintaining a one-week extension; it will need a similar two-thirds again next week, then ideally a full completion after that. INIV can complete Hyades Sector GB-N b7-0 without much fuss—but mind that this ought to be the only system, if the Matrix systems will still be present!

Peripheries at 06:50 7th November 3309:
Seven systems with 58%Taranis 11–13 Ly, 2 matrix + 1 inhabited, 2588–14.9k strength
Seven systems with 52%Indra 22–23 Ly, 1 matrix, 317–384 strength

Alerts:
HIP 20890 Alert 94% *95.9%Indra 22 Ly, 1609 Ls outpost, 6876 Ls planet
Vistnero Alert 88% — Raijin 21 Ly, 147 Ls starport, 521 Ls outpost, 147 Ls planet
HIP 116360 Alert 64% — Raijin 21 Ly, 649 Ls outpost, 462 Ls planet
HIP 19157 Alert 50% *50.9%Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 1277 Ls outpost, 217 Ls planet

Clean-up:
Hyades Sector DQ-O b6-0 Matrix 58% *58.9%Taranis 12 Ly, empty
Trianguli Sector BA-A d85 Matrix 58% *58.9%Taranis 11 Ly, empty
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-109 Control 58% — Cocijo 22 Ly, empty, 352 strength, Peripheral system
HR 1358 Matrix 52% *52.3%Indra 22 Ly, empty


Thanks for your hint concerning the AFMU. I changed it to a class 5 collector - and kept the class 3 as well (no more AFMU), so 13 collectors are working at the same time. My 320 tons of cargo space were filled within 40 minutes.

And to yours regarding the extra Collectors—I went a bit further and changed also one Hull reinforcement for another 5A Collector. That has now 320 cargo and 16 drones, which matches freeing two of the sub-surface storage together!
 
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