I will remain sceptical for the time being. I'm not longer expecting flying birds but your theory does hold some water, SO if it happens to be true then great i'll be more than happy but if it doesn't then fine as well. At this point i really prefer to get more habitat birds. There are still a lot of viable options (secretary, rhea, grey crowned crane, marabou stork, galliformes, ibises, spoonbill) and with the mute swan rig my hope for a pelican (and ducks of course) has been reignited. So at the moment i rather have then focusing on adding more habitat birds than getting just a few flying birds at the end of support.
One step closer to birds for 2024
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Twilight - "Guys the bats are clearly a step towards birds"
Grasslands - "Guys clearly they are testing multiple species in one exhibit for birds"
Tropical - "Guys they just had to include the sloth, its fine birds are still coming"
Arid - "Guys its fine they went back to the exhibit box because the porcupine took up too much time"
Oceania - "Guys they wanted to at least give us another bat before going fully into birds"
Eurasia - "Guys the gift shops are actually to test the modular exhibit system they are going to use for bird aviaries"
We will keep making up reasons for how birds are 100% coming with every DLC, it doesn't make it actually any more likely to happen.
Grasslands - "Guys clearly they are testing multiple species in one exhibit for birds"
Tropical - "Guys they just had to include the sloth, its fine birds are still coming"
Arid - "Guys its fine they went back to the exhibit box because the porcupine took up too much time"
Oceania - "Guys they wanted to at least give us another bat before going fully into birds"
Eurasia - "Guys the gift shops are actually to test the modular exhibit system they are going to use for bird aviaries"
We will keep making up reasons for how birds are 100% coming with every DLC, it doesn't make it actually any more likely to happen.
If they redo the whole walkthrough system but leave that bats and butterflies out I will be so made because I so many issues mainly around sizing for the walkthrough exhibits.
I agree with all but your last point because the second they add a flying bird it has to be perfect because everyone has been waiting so long for them if they do it in any other way that isnt completely what people want the amount of rage and toxicity that this community will produce will be ridiculous. They bats were a way to show of the walkthroughs see if people liked them as a concept and if to proceed with birds. If the first animals were butterflies or a sloth I might agree with you that it was all irrelevant to birds but the first animal they added was a bat the closest thing you could get to a flying bird without it actually being one and something that while yes in zoos doesnt scream iconic zoo animal to me the same way sloths and butterflies do.
Actually i think it was at the Oceania pack, the perfect pack to finally get birds and even they were linda hinted towards (the rainbow color of the drinks names, the fruits, the region) and yet we ended up getting a flying fox. That's when hope died for me.
I'm gonna keep huffing that hopium. We've got to get aviary birds eventually, and this year has been the best in the game's history when it comes to getting new birds. There's no way that Frontier created the walkthrough exhibits without planning on putting flying birds in them eventually.
Whilst I’d love aviary birds added, I really don’t think the addition of modular shops increases the likelihood at all.
Yeah. I'm with the skeptics on this one.
We all thought the Red Crowned Crane was a sign of things to come...then nothing.
Many thought the inclusion of Bats was a sign of things to come...then nothing.
Some thought the Butterflies was a sign of things to come...then nothing.
At some point we just need to accept the fact that birds aren't coming.
The optimal time(imo) to release flying birds to maximize profit/returning players was probably around 1.5-2 years ago. Now we're allegedly close to the end of the game. It would honestly be a waste by Frontier to implement them now...unless somehow they are planning on extending support into 2025. They wouldn't get as much bang for their efforts, and they would spend a lot of effort working through the numerous inevitable bugs that arise with this new mechanic.
Of course anything is possible, and we will all be more than happy if they are added to the game. But I think if anyone is expecting flying birds at this point of the game, you are in for a disappointment.
We all thought the Red Crowned Crane was a sign of things to come...then nothing.
Many thought the inclusion of Bats was a sign of things to come...then nothing.
Some thought the Butterflies was a sign of things to come...then nothing.
At some point we just need to accept the fact that birds aren't coming.
The optimal time(imo) to release flying birds to maximize profit/returning players was probably around 1.5-2 years ago. Now we're allegedly close to the end of the game. It would honestly be a waste by Frontier to implement them now...unless somehow they are planning on extending support into 2025. They wouldn't get as much bang for their efforts, and they would spend a lot of effort working through the numerous inevitable bugs that arise with this new mechanic.
Of course anything is possible, and we will all be more than happy if they are added to the game. But I think if anyone is expecting flying birds at this point of the game, you are in for a disappointment.
This is a big thing people are missing bird hype peaked around mid last year but it had been steadily climbing since basically the games release. The bird culture in the community has passed being just mass hype into almost a level of toxic hysteria where any pack that is released that isnt birds is met with immediate hostility on social media. People are convincing themselves that everything is a sign and then being outraged when its not. It wouldnt be a waste for frontier to add them now people would buy it but no matter how good they are or what comes people will continue to be upset about it.
Yep. Red Crowned Crane was in the Wetlands DLC last spring, and yeah. The hype was big for birds when the next DLC was released. I remember watching the PZ livestream hinting at the next DLC, and the chat was erupting in bird hype. It's actually incredible that people were able to get over their disappointment to appreciate the Conservation DLC as much as they did.
Perhaps "waste" wasn't the best word to use. I was more talking about the expected revenue from the inclusion. Introducing flying birds Summer 2022 would have sent sales through the roof, and that peaked interest would have lasted well into this year. Compare that with introducing birds in Spring 2024, and while of course the DLC would be insanely popular, and would give PZ a strong interest boost, I don't think the hype would be as high nor last nearly as long as it would have if done last summer.
I actually think Frontier is wise to just leave birds out of it at this point. Put them in the base game in a future PZ2 and the hype will be extra huge.
I think 2024 will be PZ2, which may have them fabled birds.
(on the other hand, i'm well known to be bad at predictions, so... i'll take my coat
)Whilst I am also doubtful we’ll get much more in the way of birds (a few more at best), for me the reason this is so annoying is precisely that no new mechanics are needed.
First, and most obviously, waking birds like cranes and flamingos have always been in-game as have mostly ground dwelling birds like peafowl. Those groups alone would provide ample options for multiple dedicated bird animal packs. Add to those aquatic birds like the swan and there are literally dozens of great options.
Second, walk though exhibits (and even standard exhibits) would work perfectly well for dozens more species of flying birds like finches, hummingbirds, and many, many more.
Third, even free-navigating flying habitat birds wouldn’t require anything new - all deep diving species in-game can navigate in 3d and habitats can already be built with ceilings to prevent escapes (though, perhaps an aviary cage set of build pieces might make this easier for many people.
There is no need at all for new mechanics - plenty of bird species (numbering, literally in the hundreds) could be added using only the mechanics we already have in-game… they just haven’t been.
I am more and more inclined to believe that if we would get flying birds and an aviary system, it will not come in this game but in a possible PZ2 game.
They will need a big new feature for PZ2 to sell and if they added the birds to this game, why would people buy PZ2 to get the 'same' animals again?
Same for modular exhibits and aquaria, I think they will keep that for a future version of PZ.
They will need a big new feature for PZ2 to sell and if they added the birds to this game, why would people buy PZ2 to get the 'same' animals again?
Same for modular exhibits and aquaria, I think they will keep that for a future version of PZ.
omg this is so real
Personally I am sad we did not get birds pack for xmas (rip my theory), typically this is the best season for a high selling pack, however I will still hold hope until spring, which is another season fitting for them, at the same time I could expect some kind of South America animal pack as well which could also have some birds (pelican, rhea, ibis). Also since we did not get highlands in the end (not sure where they'll put Pallas cat and markhor now if at all?), now I am definitely sure the safari pack is gonna be a thing next summer, including the baboon, sulcata, serval, ratel and secretary bird. I will be surprised if it's not the case because it is clear they are going for easy clones instead of more substantial species.
I had to stop at the arid pack with that reasoning because I started to realise how ridiculous that theory started to sound like. Its just pure copium now that that gift shops are supposedly yet another testbed for the flying birds that were supposed to happen just after twilight saying the exact same thing.
I want a System like that for the Exhibits
Secretary Bird would be awesome. Maybe they've could even include Burrowing Owls. Don't know how much they fly but it seems like they don't do it that often
Still so weird to me that we don't have a single Exhibit Mammal (except the Sloth and the Bats). Hopefully someday, even if it'll only come in a potential Sequel
- South America - Guys we're getting Macaw. They were heard in the Trailer
- Australia - Guys we're getting Kookaburras. They were heard in the Trailer
Gliding Mammals like flying Squirrels, Marsupials or Colugos. At least I'd love to see those. The last ones are by the Way the closest living Relatives of Primates, together with Bats
I think 2024 will be PZ2, which may have them fabled birds.
(on the other hand, i'm well known to be bad at predictions, so... i'll take my coat
Would love it if we would get a Sequel that soon, which would hopefully include lots of Improvements and better GraphicsAlready mentioned once that a Species of Turaco would be a great Inclusion because they are closer to proper Aviary Birds but mostly jump from Branch to Branch
There might be Problems with perching or something similar
I think the same and it would make the Sequel even greater
Yes please. Really hope that this is meant by thatI think if they are a Test for anything it would rather be for better Exhibits which I would absolutely love. In Real Life, Iguanas would probably kill each other if they are housed together in such little Space