Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

I just wonder where the line is drawn for birds that fly too much for Planet Zoo.

Big eagles, condors, and vultures don’t fly or move much but aren’t in game. Most of the birds in game are notoriously flightless too. So I wonder where the secretary bird could work but a bald eagle couldn’t.
I would make the argument that the vast majority of birds, in a captive setting, fly very rarely. It would be more like them hopping from Point A to Point B. Or flying in short spurts.

At this point, the easiest way to implement it would be for them to add "perch points" to existing items or (more likely, I think) just adding a set of 3-4 easily hideable enrichment "perch post" items that birds can perch on (e.g., plain wooden cylinders that can be buried into logs, other branches, etc.) and just say something similar to what was said about the meerkats ("don't worry, they won't dig to escape!") with regard to them flying out of uncovered enclosures. It's not the best way to do it... But it's probably the simplest. Hah. Especially if they were sticking to birds of prey, parrots, and species like ducks.

Could add a new heatmap similar to "climbing" but for perching/flight paths.

It's not the fully integrated aviary system folks would be hoping for but... It would allow for a lot more flexibility than an exhibit-style set-up.
 
I would make the argument that the vast majority of birds, in a captive setting, fly very rarely. It would be more like them hopping from Point A to Point B. Or flying in short spurts.

At this point, the easiest way to implement it would be for them to add "perch points" to existing items or (more likely, I think) just adding a set of 3-4 easily hideable enrichment "perch post" items that birds can perch on (e.g., plain wooden cylinders that can be buried into logs, other branches, etc.) and just say something similar to what was said about the meerkats ("don't worry, they won't dig to escape!") with regard to them flying out of uncovered enclosures. It's not the best way to do it... But it's probably the simplest. Hah. Especially if they were sticking to birds of prey, parrots, and species like ducks.

Could add a new heatmap similar to "climbing" but for perching/flight paths.

It's not the fully integrated aviary system folks would be hoping for but... It would allow for a lot more flexibility than an exhibit-style set-up.
I always thought they could do something like using the climbing system, but honestly just making set points they travel too would work well! I think they should have a set number of pieces, with a good amount of them being very natural looking. That way you can add it to pre existing exhibits without having to add a whole new set of climbing pieces,
 
like, there's a good number of African animals I'd still like to see. But I'll gladly forgo all of them except for the Secretary Bird and Hamadryas Baboon (second one because of community want), and even then only for a finale wrap up pack. More African animals, more Asian animals, more Oceanian animals, more North American animals AND more European animals should, IMO, all take a backseat to South American animals if we're getting only one more pack and it's a regional-focused pack.
 
like, there's a good number of African animals I'd still like to see. But I'll gladly forgo all of them except for the Secretary Bird and Hamadryas Baboon (second one because of community want), and even then only for a finale wrap up pack. More African animals, more Asian animals, more Oceanian animals, more North American animals AND more European animals should, IMO, all take a backseat to South American animals if we're getting only one more pack and it's a regional-focused pack.
I have more of the problem that like 80% of the african animals i want are neither ungulates or carnivorans. Which in all likeliness will take up like 5-6 seats on the animal pack

EDIT: On second thought that is true for all of my wanted animals, not just african ones. Sad monke and birb enjoyer noises
 
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I love how the place slowly but surely turns into a meme page :D
It’s one of my favorite things about this forum. Speaking of whatever happened to the winter speculation thread? I was trying to find it but couldn’t. Not sure if my brain was skipping over it a bit.
 
So I know the next pack is likely to be a scenery pack (I’m fully embracing mad hope and expecting a full calendar year of DLC in 2024), but I want this:

Central America Pack
1. Ring tailed coati
2. Geoffrey's tamarin
3. Howler monkey
4. Bushdog
5. Jaguarundi
6. Agouti (would prefer Mara but they aren’t in the region)
7. Toco toucan
8. Scarlet macaw

I know it’s primate and carnivore heavy, but we really need those new world monkeys, and I think those carnivore species are unique enough to not feel like “just another dog or cat”. Could swap in a marsh deer. Ideally, we’d have a bunch of birds along with the toucan and macaw: harpy eagle, hummingbirds, maybe even a king vulture. Not gonna happen, but a wishlist is what it is.

If scenery pack… Treetops?
1. Francois langur
2. Goodfellow’s tree kangaroo
3. Ring tailed coati
4. Golden lion tamarin
5. Toco toucan
Scenery: general zoo items like locks, gates, feed chutes, switches, new signage, etc.
 
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I just wonder where the line is drawn for birds that fly too much for Planet Zoo.

Big eagles, condors, and vultures don’t fly or move much but aren’t in game. Most of the birds in game are notoriously flightless too. So I wonder where the secretary bird could work but a bald eagle couldn’t.
Primarily terrestrial or aquatic/wetland looks like the current threshold for habitat birds (something where a wing amputation/clip isn't as huge an impact on QOL, and might be outside in a good chunk of zoos. In the case of Adelaide zoo, there's a low fence exhibit with Cape Barren Goose and Australian Pelican amputees, mostly from tangled fishing nets and lines), but it does only take one species to change it up.
 
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I never got the negativity towards more carnivores, like I get that other types of species should be focused more but its not like they are extremely similar to eachother like ungulates are. We still have all these beauties left.
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I would like the Pallas cat and the bush dog!

The Carnivora thing mostly comes down to how many niches are filled by them. Any extra Carnivora member is a bonus at this point.

I think it also comes down to the Frontier bias making some of the community members a bit bitter (and jealous tbh) to additions of Carnivora and ungulates.

It’s not fair at all, but granted not getting another monkey for years hasn’t been fair either. If anything is even fair to begin with. Like i said earlier in this thread, Frontier adding one animal may not take up the slot of another. We don’t know how Frontier chooses and makes its animals, so as far as we know an animal not added into the game may have never been an option to begin with.
 
I never got the negativity towards more carnivores, like I get that other types of species should be focused more but its not like they are extremely similar to eachother like ungulates are. We still have all these beauties left.
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Its not that i hate carnivorans, its just that we have so many of them now that its hard for me to see much value in adding even more, especially this close to the (assumed) end.
Idk from my point of view every single carnivoran spot would be better off with something else, with a very select few exeptions.
 
I would like the Pallas cat and the bush dog!

The Carnivora thing mostly comes down to how many niches are filled by them. Any extra Carnivora member is a bonus at this point.

I think it also comes down to the Frontier bias making some of the community members a bit bitter (and jealous tbh) to additions of Carnivora and ungulates.

It’s not fair at all, but granted not getting another monkey for years hasn’t been fair either. If anything is even fair to begin with. Like i said earlier in this thread, Frontier adding one animal may not take up the slot of another. We don’t know how Frontier chooses and makes its animals, so as far as we know an animal not added into the game may have never been an option to begin with.
Yeah pretty much sums it up for me
 
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