Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

TheDuckKnight

TheDuckKnight
Same conversations over and over again, huh? Alright then, what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?

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And nothing about wishlists or "we don't need animal xyz", opinions ONLY about things in the game as is. I'll go first:
  • I like the lion.
  • Exhibit animals offer a necessary "art through restriction" element in comparison to the complete customizability of habitats.
  • There should be twice as many tutorials to address the game's inherent learning curve, especially for younger players.
 

NachoB

NachoB
TheDuckKnight said:
Same conversations over and over again, huh? Alright then, what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?

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And nothing about wishlists or "we don't need animal xyz", opinions ONLY about things in the game as is. I'll go first:
  • I like the lion.
  • Exhibit animals offer a necessary "art through restriction" element in comparison to the complete customizability of habitats.
  • There should be twice as many tutorials to address the game's inherent learning curve, especially for younger players.
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Apparently wanting the Nile crocodile.
 

Frogstrich

Frogstrich
TheDuckKnight said:
what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?
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Franchise Is Overrated. It's Challenge But Worse. In Challenge You Can Use Premade Maps Like Myer's Rainforest Conservation Project Or The Bernie Goodwin Memorial Zoo Along With Being Able To Use New Species Mods Whilst In Franchise You Get Just A Blank Square Minus A Few Trees. The Only Thing Franchise Has Over Challenge Mode Is Having A Network Of Zoos.
 
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Captain Callum

Captain Callum
TheDuckKnight said:
Same conversations over and over again, huh? Alright then, what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?

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And nothing about wishlists or "we don't need animal xyz", opinions ONLY about things in the game as is. I'll go first:
  • I like the lion.
  • Exhibit animals offer a necessary "art through restriction" element in comparison to the complete customizability of habitats.
  • There should be twice as many tutorials to address the game's inherent learning curve, especially for younger players.
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Ah hot take of planet zoo time...
  • All cats are perfectly usable as is, the male lion is understandable but the there really isn't anything wrong with the rest to warrant a remaster
  • South America has enough animals to build a zoo for them
  • The walkthrough exhibit is/was a waste of good development time
 

Captain Callum

Captain Callum
CharlieXGaming said:
Wait so you’re saying the walkthrough exhibit was a bad thing?
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Yeah I absolutely hate it, the whole flat building area obsession that frontier loves catering to sucks any redeeming factor of it for me. It's too big, you can't have water inside it, guests enter both directions leading to bottlenecks, the default enrichment sucks, animals can't be heard outside the exhibit...
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
Captain Callum said:
Yeah I absolutely hate it, the whole flat building area obsession that frontier loves catering to sucks any redeeming factor of it for me. It's too big, you can't have water inside it, guests enter both directions leading to bottlenecks, the default enrichment sucks, animals can't be heard outside the exhibit...
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Yeah alright that’s fair, I’ll add on that the default enrichment aren’t actual pieces we can place as pieces and of course it hasn’t lead to what everyone thought it would, birds.
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
TheDuckKnight said:
Same conversations over and over again, huh? Alright then, what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?
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Alright let’s go
  • South America is kinda overrated for a finale pack. I know it needs more animals but out of all possible animals frontier will probably choose the more boring clone animals like the ocelot, bear, Rhea, etc. instead of interesting and unique species like the tamarin, ibis or spoonbill, spider monkey or Brazilian porcupine.
  • The only thing Africa is missing is a primate (likely baboon but Collobus is hella underrated) and maybe a habitat bird.
 

Utahraptor Arcanus

Utahraptor Arcanus
TheDuckKnight said:
Same conversations over and over again, huh? Alright then, what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?

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And nothing about wishlists or "we don't need animal xyz", opinions ONLY about things in the game as is. I'll go first:
  • I like the lion.
  • Exhibit animals offer a necessary "art through restriction" element in comparison to the complete customizability of habitats.
  • There should be twice as many tutorials to address the game's inherent learning curve, especially for younger players.
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Sandbox is the worst game mode, all the other gamemode are way better than it.

Also for SA zoo standarts the ingame SA animals selection is very bad, taking the gramado zoo (a brazilian zoo that only have native species) as a example, out of the 70 species they keep only 10 are present in the game.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Captain Callum said:
Ah hot take of planet zoo time...

  • South America has enough animals to build a zoo for them
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My nostrils are flaring in indignation. :LOL:

Hot take for me - While I like franchise's idea of shared zoos, i really wish they'd not gone with a player-driven animal market and had gone with in-game generated animals instead, like pretty much every other zoo game out there. The player driven animal market seems to bring out some greed issues, especially in regards to CCs. I wish they'd do away with both the market as it is.

By that I mean, it wouldn't be an online thing, the animals wouldn't be pulled from Frontier's server, it would all be automated from the game file - at least I think that's how to word it.

Example- you want a certain species? It's always available to purchase, if you have enough cash you can always purchase it. It can still have some kind of generation of price calculation based on stats, just that the game will always set it as such instead of other players.
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
Imagine they pushed back the Alligator until Wetlands instead of the caiman and we got the ABB in NA in its place, one more hole in the roster solved.
 

Birb（｡･ө･｡）

Birb（｡･ө･｡）
TheDuckKnight said:
Same conversations over and over again, huh? Alright then, what PZ opinion gets you this reaction?
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Discussing only things in game:
  • The dingo was an amazing addition. Good biome diversity, essential for its native range, and decently common outside of it. It's also among one of the better looking carnivorans in the game.
  • The dama gazelle is... fine I guess. The real worst animal in Arid goes to either the black rhino or the sand cat for me, as neither quite match the quality of the rest.
  • Barring birds and monkeys, Europe and to a lesser extent Africa and North America are complete with the current roster.
  • The quokka is an alright addition. It's not my favorite, but it is relatively common within Australia. It's more comparable to like, half of the European animals in game that are also rare-non existent anywhere else than it is to stuff like the saiga or proboscis monkey that people seem to lump it in with for some reason.
  • Maybe not as much of a hot take (idk other's opinions on it since I never hear it get talked about), but the education items that came in 1.10 did not fill the void that they should have. They're all way too themed and tailored to specific animals to the point where I barely use them. I would have much rather had the audio and image files be editable on the vocalization display than have it cycle through the same three random animals for example. (Only kind of related, but I wish we got more official audio in general. Both animal sounds for education displays and some of the ambience speakers that they seemed to stop giving us after Aquatic if I recall correctly? That was such an underrated feature.) More education items beyond just signs in each pack would have been a great addition as well to slowly build up a modular set of them.

Discussing things not in game:
  • Both of the two bears left would be a nice addition, but they're far from priority and I don't think either are must-haves. There's certainly an argument to be made for the ABB, but I'd only barely (or bearly, sorry) consider it essential. It would be nice to have for smaller, lower budget NA zoos, but its still possible to have a realistic zoo of that type without it.
  • NA does not need another deer - like at all. The elk/wapiti is a nice addition, but far from essential, and the white-tail is completely unnecessary; I don't know how it keeps getting touted as essential. Local deer species really aren't all that common in NA zoos outside of certain native wildlife parks. If we have to get another deer either make it a pudu or give it to Asia.
  • I'd be fine if we never got another cat or canid (and that's coming from someone who loves the latter) - or even any carnivoran aside from the coati. There's some that would be nice additions, like the serval, raccoon dog, sea otter, or walrus, but there aren't any left that I'd consider essential (again, aside from the coati) and their roster is good enough at this point that other groups should take priority even if we had another year or two left.
  • If the theme allows for it, every pack should have at least one bird at this point, they're way too far behind to keep getting shafted for the hundredth random ungulate or carnivoran.
 
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