Black Box salvage missions are currently broken.

Pigletslastand

Pigletslastand
Not every mission but if you take enough black box recovery missions you will get one where it sends you to a target location. You then scan the nav beacon or use the FSS scanner and the mission cannot be found.
Scanning the nav beacon updated your mission with a target body. When you go to the transactions panel and look for the target body it says "needs scan" and that the target is unknown.

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Sloucher

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Any answer to this? Every single black box mission has ended the same. I get to the nav beacon, scan it and no unidentified signals are indicated. I end up having to bin the mission and pay the penalty.
 

Sloucher

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@BackToTheMud yes, I do but I just can't get my head round the whole scanning and FSS thing. None of it seems to either work or make sense to me. I've tried Googling and viewing YouTube videos, but they all assume too much prior knowledge!!
 

Miscellaneous

Miscellaneous
Pigletslastand said:
Not every mission but if you take enough black box recovery missions you will get one where it sends you to a target location. You then scan the nav beacon or use the FSS scanner and the mission cannot be found.
Scanning the nav beacon updated your mission with a target body. When you go to the transactions panel and look for the target body it says "needs scan" and that the target is unknown.

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I know what you mean. I have thrown those away and yet - well, I assumed I was being dumb. But I know what you mean.

Sloucher said:
Any answer to this? Every single black box mission has ended the same. I get to the nav beacon, scan it and no unidentified signals are indicated. I end up having to bin the mission and pay the penalty.
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But I don't know what you mean. I have not had any persistent problem with black box mission except just as described by CMDR Pigletslaststand, and just occasionally.

This has been a review of what CMDR Penny Noon knows and not knows what means. Let's do some more and see if we come to explain that. Black box snatching missions are great!
 

Sloucher

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Yet again, another waste of time.
I thought I'd try again with a black box recovery mission. What a mistake! I went to the indicated star system and immediately got an update telling me that a potential salvage location had been transferred to my Transactions panel. The location was a star. I went to the location and only found a compromised nav beacon. No other signals at all.
What the &^%$ do you have to do when the game just gives you the finger?!!! what am I missing?
 

BackToTheMud

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Sloucher said:
@BackToTheMud yes, I do but I just can't get my head round the whole scanning and FSS thing. None of it seems to either work or make sense to me. I've tried Googling and viewing YouTube videos, but they all assume too much prior knowledge!!
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Google and Youtube are important tools for ED, but the scanners are things you just have to sit down and figure out.
DSS is straightforward, FSS is a bit awkward, but it's not difficult.

Is the planet blue in the contacts panel after you've scanned the beacon? If yes, have you actually gone to the planet before giving up?
 

Sloucher

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The location sent to the transaction panel is the star. There are two or three planets there, and asteroid clusters (every one of which I've visited). The nav beacon there is compromised and offers no information.
 

Esteban

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I do these and salvage missions a lot and see this problem regularly too. Sometimes I go on to another system where I have the next black box or salvage op, do that one, then return AFTER I log out to main menu and log back in.* If I don't feel like taking the time, I'll just dump the mission.

A key to knowing if there's a problem is:
When you drop in to the target star system, your COVAS immediately announces that a "mission objective (is) detected." If you don't hear that, the mission site will not be able to be found. In my experience with these failures, leaving and returning does not create a good chance that the mission will work properly. It's not zero but it's quite low. I have tried the logging trick just a few times since it was suggested to me so I can't yet comment with certainty on its level of success. As I mentioned, sometimes I just don't find it worth taking the time to return. That's me...

With regard to using the FSS, I use this vastly more often than I stop at a nav beacon to find the mission site. In my experience doing many, many of these missions, it's just far faster at least 95% of the time than stopping at a nav beacon. I would suggest that it's well worth the time to get a hang of the FSS. Perhaps you can multicrew with someone who can help you with it.

* I know it's not a solution, but it does offer a chance that the mission will be do-able (not 100%, mind you). I saw a post in another thread that hinted at what the problem behind this is. If I find it, I will update here.

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A short thread. See post #3 if you don't want to read them all. I won't comment on the authoritativeness of the info- as I mentioned above, I'm still assessing its effectiveness. Cheers!

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Esteban

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I ran a few missions this evening. One of the black box ops failed. I was in the same system picking up black boxes for another mission and since I was in normal space flight (not supercruise), I logged out and back. This did not make the mission work but I did not leave the star system. I was literally falling asleep at the helm so I didn't take the time to jump to a nearby system, log, and return. Maybe next time!
Keeping score: 0-1, but maybe my 'fault' ;)
 

Shurimal

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Sloucher said:
The location was a star. I went to the location and only found a compromised nav beacon
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The locaton at a star means it's somewhere in the star's sphere of influence (ie not in the gravity well of another body) and not in a shipping lane. Might be a few dozen ls from the star, might be a few hundred thousand ls away. Usually it's somewhere around 1000...5000 ls away, not right at the star (in which case you'd see it in your nav panel right after jumping in). You need to use FSS or scan the nav beacon to find the mission location, no way around this.

For the record, I don't do black box missions every day, but I do them often enough and I've never had one bugged on me.
 

Sloucher

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Just to say I've ditched this mission. FSS doesn't turn anything up either. I've read so many posts about bugged bb missions I think I'll give them a miss in future!!

EDIT: Just noticed the time allowed for the particular mission involved never elapses either!
 
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Poonjabby

Poonjabby
As of todays date 4/16/24 about 30% of the black box missions are bugged. FSS doesn't work, scanning the nav beacon doesn't work, logging in and out doesn't work. There is a common failure to them though. When you first jump into the system if you don't get the "mission objective detected" it has a very high chance of being a failure. I can't say for sure it's 100% but I get that "oh crap" feeling when I don't hear it.
 

Esteban

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Poonjabby said:
When you first jump into the system if you don't get the "mission objective detected" it has a very high chance of being a failure.
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As I mentioned above, this is a definitive indicator that the mission will not work unless something* else is done to make it work.

* something being not obvious or certain of success.

(See post #9)
 

Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
I have found approximately 33% of black box collections are bugged, for me. I have tried all the tricks mentioned above, but when it is missing, there has been no way it appears.
I have done about 30 or 40 black box collections over the last 2 weeks. And I was hoping to see a heading called support or whatever it is when you have a bug.
I abandon the mission so as not to destroy influence, only my alliance drops a bit.
 

alyandon

alyandon
January 2025 and same issue here. The mission signal marker for multiple salvage missions have failed to spawn for me multiple times. I searched the systems manually, used DSS/FSS, scanned the nav beacons, tried jumping out and back in and tried relogging. This was working for me a few days ago.
 
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