General / Off-Topic Constant stupid movie reboots

lysan

lysan
Rubbernuke said:
Both the 1984 film and 2000 miniseries did Dune well with the former (although flawed) doing concepts much better. For example Lynch visualized Guild travel in a visually rich way that was epic in the cinema, and dealt with the more mystical dream aspects far more effectively than Villeneuve. When not over-acting, the Baron too was much more menacing and Dr Yuehs motivations made sense- not to mention the Emperor acted like an emperor. And the set / costume design were epic.

Its a pity that the Spicediver mega edit of 1984 Dune was not the cinematic version because it really makes the film shine- but then in 1984 film lengths were much more constrained.
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I got all the dune movies and the tv show’s fan much? And I agree the new version is excellent, maybe 1 out of 10 reboots are better than the original, however sometimes it’s better to not reboot it and instead make a movie that is like a branch of the original.
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
One of my all time favourites is "Apocalypse Now."
The whole film just perfect. The soundtrack, cinematography, acting, script.
The atmosphere!
The closing scenes with brando mad as a march hare & all the pyrotechnics!
Nothing can hold a candle to this movie.
If you haven't seen it. Oled TV, popcorn, scotch, and a few beers, trust me you'll love it.
And getting wasted on a Saturday night is always a good thing. Just don't make a habit of it.
 

Aris Tarkus

Aris Tarkus
Just wait, nearly everything will be rewiritten again to make it "Woke". Toatally killed Star Trek—not that it was great writing—and a lot of otheres as well.

Just wait, we have the 14th iteration of "A Star is Born" to look forward to as well.
 

ethelred

ethelred
I've no problem with reboots or even perceived "wokism" as the culture has changed since my youth in the 80s and modern films should and do reflect that.

We're very at risk of being old men who are shouting at clouds - pre-kids I was at the cinema at least once a week seeing new often fantastic new films.

There's no reason to think that great films aren't being made now - my exposure to them is just also so much less.

It's tempting to think everything was better in the good old days, but there were some truly dreadful films being made back then too, it wasn't back to back classics by any means.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
ethelred said:
I've no problem with reboots or even perceived "wokism" as the culture has changed since my youth in the 80s and modern films should and do reflect that.

We're very at risk of being old men who are shouting at clouds - pre-kids I was at the cinema at least once a week seeing new often fantastic new films.

There's no reason to think that great films aren't being made now - my exposure to them is just also so much less.

It's tempting to think everything was better in the good old days, but there were some truly dreadful films being made back then too, it wasn't back to back classics by any means.
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Wokism is a problem when it gets in the way of telling a story in a logical way, or tries to see things though a very puritanical lens.

The sad part too is that rather than having 'woke' expressed correctly via diversity of programs / films you wind up having it shoved into programs individually with quotas. I don't mind diverse casts if its not part of the setting or story- but when it makes no sense other than to fit the illusion of the 'modern audience' it just grates. If its a historical film then base it on history- if the character was established this way, keep them to those basic principles.

The recent Shogun is a really good example of accuracy via diversity of programming and not quotas, despite woke commentators slating it for having Japanese people playing Japanese people.

Bad examples are all over the place but are most seen in comics. Take Captain America- his traditional character sells but modern writers have made him homeless, the villain, changed his preferences. Even worse is Captain Marvel who has been rebooted about eight times :D. If you look at comic sales the old stuff is always popular, while the new takes vanish almost instantly.
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
I thought the Star Trek reboot with Chris Pine was very good. Mind you, it had a stellar cast and a good director. The story.... was neatly functional...
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
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Arioch

Arioch
lysan said:
Not that the running man was a good movie, but why do we need a new version?
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Have you ever read the original story by Stephen King/Richard Bachman? I’ll be interested to see if the new film follows the novella or goes down the route of the Arnie film (take the names & title and the general premise).
 

lysan

lysan
Arioch said:
Have you ever read the original story by Stephen King/Richard Bachman? I’ll be interested to see if the new film follows the novella or goes down the route of the Arnie film (take the names & title and the general premise).
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No I haven't and that's a good thing, some of the movies I watched where I read the books was soooo disappointing.
 

Arioch

Arioch
lysan said:
No I haven't and that's a good thing, some of the movies I watched where I read the books was soooo disappointing.
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I read the original novella before watching the Arnie film and was confused as to why they shared the same name 😂

If the remake follows the book, it will be a very different film to the ‘87 offering and I can see why the movie studios would consider it.
 
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