The Type-8

Shurimal

Shurimal
Cosmo said:
The old ED ships could also use a level-of-detail upgrade.
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Yup. And fix the graphical glitches many ships have that have become more obvious with on-foot gameplay🙂 Missing polygon on the right sight of the cockpit on Krait Phantom (and discrepancies in the hull between views from the cockpit and external view), mesh gaps on Orca and Alliance C-ships, C-ships having their forward small hardpoint retracting into the cockpit, messed up rear landing gear on Anaconda...
 

aRJay

aRJay
Rubbernuke said:
Going to go with my gut and....I don't like it (in an ED context).

The main reason is it does not 'feel' like an ED ship to me aesthetically- this is very much more Eve or Star Citizen. The only cues are the lakon cockpit and the landing legs- everything else (to me) just feels 'off'.

But I'll reserve my judgement for when its flying about.
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I have no knowledge of the looks of the ships in Eve and SC, this reminds me of the following though not necessarily a strong resemblance
  • Nostromo from Alien
  • Some RPG table top game miniatures that I can’t recall properly
  • A Lakon ship, the greenhouse
  • Some transformers era Japanese anime ship
It would be nice if the forks where spinal mount type weapons or for that weapon in the Known Space books that created Canyon, but even if not I am inclined favourably towards it even if it is a crowded sector to fit in.

I have fond memories of using my T7 mostly based on how well it handled in supercruise which emphasised just how bad the Anaconda was.

When we were looking at the box version I was thinking Chris Foss design looks.

Speaking of the box look are the hit boxes based on those.
 
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GJ51

GJ51
Cargo missions frequently are for 122 or 196 tons

2 122T missions can be done by a Python

To be significant the T-8 will need to be able to carry either 392T or at least 318T

It wil be interesting to see as the exterior pics don't make it look like the configration will accomodate that. It looks like it's mostly engines and weapons pylons.

Early release for ARX ???
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
GJ51 said:
Cargo missions frequently are for 122 or 196 tons

2 122T missions can be done by a Python

To be significant the T-8 will need to be able to carry either 392T or at least 318T

It wil be interesting to see as the exterior pics don't make it look like the configration will accomodate that. It looks like it's mostly engines and weapons pylons.

Early release for ARX ???
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Yes it does look like that. I hope it's not just another combat ship.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
aRJay said:
I have no knowledge of the looks of the ships in Eve and SC, this reminds me of the following though not necessarily a strong resemblance
  • Nostromo from Alien
  • Some RPG table top game miniatures that I can’t recall properly
  • A Lakon ship, the greenhouse
  • Some transformers era Japanese anime ship
It would be nice if the forks where spinal mount type weapons or for that weapon in the Known Space books that created Canyon, but even if not I am inclined favourably towards it even if it is a crowded sector to fit in.

I have fond memories of using my T7 mostly based on how well it handled in supercruise which emphasised just how bad the Anaconda was.

When we were looking at the box version I was thinking Chris Foss design looks.

Speaking of the box look are the hit boxes based on those.
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Well invert this ship and see what you get:

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Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Lyamecron said:
I get your point, and it really does feel like its an entirely new manufacturer building these things - yet I believe thats just what elite needs, especially since its competing with SC (at least at some level).

This game needs new players and I believe making cool looking ships - even when feeling a bit out of universe - is a good way to get the interest of a few people which were previously on the fence about trying the game.
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I'm all for new ships, but my inner space autist demands things done just so. The 'rule of cool' is fine but everything needs consistency.
 

Sublime

S
HRDiagram said:
That's exactly what I am saying: if it's based on the T7, which has better modules than the Python, it's going to replace it.

One can hope
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It’s tough. The T7 only has marginally better internals than the Python but it’s a large ship, and Python is better in pretty much every other way, by a lot.

They’d have to make T8 noticeably better than the Python in some ways to entice people to get it, and especially to spend money to get it early, but that would probably make it better than the T7 in every way.

I’m really curious to see what they’re going to do. I’m hoping for it being fast with a lot of internals.

I’m not sure if the box pictures can be any indication but one of them seems to imply at least 4 hardpoints.
 

fennster

fennster
They could of had the front landing gears unfold out of the protrusions on the front so that it was visible from the cockpit (or fold up as you were leaving somewhere).
 

GroG79

G
Rebel Yell said:
Indeed, I wonder where this ship is going to land:

Python 294t max

🤔 Type 8?

T7 310t max

Unless it gets a way better jump range than a Python (as I don't expect this to have better hardpoints or shield multiplier) isn't going that much far.

I'd have more likely welcomed a 450-500t L-pad with better range, agility and higher shield multiplier than a T9 🤷‍♂️

If T8 gets like 350t it will be clumsier and have a shorter range than a T7 for sure (unless it breaks the scale and then we might sell all the T7s).
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Remember it is made with SCO proofing.
 
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