I picked up a "Kill 15 pirates" mission last night, pays 20 DWE and a few million credits...
The good data missions are there
Elite Dangerous | Type-8 Update (18.08) | Wednesday 7th August
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The good data missions are there
Same... ran evac missions in two different alert systems and I haven't gotten squat.
That's too little for that kind of work in relation to pharma HGE.
I've checked three places - Plucker Relay, a Distribution Centre (Famine system) for scanning wakes, and Jameson's crashed Cobra. Only the crash site has an increased amount. Plucker Relay still has the same number of thingies to scan that each give three mats (exact same as pre-patch) and scanning wakes also gives 3 mats (exact same as pre-patch).
At Bug Killer at the moment, appears to be no change here at all, still the same encoded as last time I was here.
Step 1: Stack up some 20 DWE pirate massacre missions
Step 2: Take a Pacifier-equipped PII
Step 3: Go to a low RES
Step 4: Instagib 15 pirate Cobras in about 2 minutes
Step 5 (optional): Repeat a few times if you didn't get a good mission stack
I wrote in comparison.
1. Took the limpets
2. Came out in the HGE.
Which is easier? Faster? No need to fight, etc.
There isn't any data in a pharma HGE though. I already filled up on PI yesterday.
Data I'm short of since upgrading 2 new ships!
Works for Imperial Shielding, Proto Radiolic Alloys and Core Dynamics Composites. These things drop like candy during Halloween
Does not work well for Pharma Isolators, Military Supercapacitors, Improvised Components since the conditions under which they spawn are rare. Eg I didn't find any HGE-s in the few 10...100 million population systems currently in Civil Unrest, and no 1+ billion population systems in that state. Missions are much more reliable source (can we get Military Caps and Improv Compos from missions now? I haven't seen any yet...)
Does not work at all for data materials since you won't find them in HGE-s. Eg doing pirate massacres to get DWE-s is way, way faster and much, much more fun than scanning wakes in a Distribution Center.
Exactly same. Me nad my pal have fought in HIP 19091, did generally the same thing, he has got Tier 1 reward, I've got nothing. Not another tier - nothing, no mssg, no anything.
Works for Imperial Shielding, Proto Radiolic Alloys and Core Dynamics Composites. These things drop like candy during Halloween
Does not work well for Pharma Isolators, Military Supercapacitors, Improvised Components since the conditions under which they spawn are rare. Eg I didn't find any HGE-s in the few 10...100 million population systems currently in Civil Unrest, and no 1+ billion population systems in that state. Missions are much more reliable source (can we get Military Caps and Improv Compos from missions now? I haven't seen any yet...)
Does not work at all for data materials since you won't find them in HGE-s. Eg doing pirate massacres to get DWE-s is way, way faster and much, much more fun than scanning wakes in a Distribution Center.
I applied my trusted method: search inara for independent/alliance factions in Civil unrest in independent/alliance systems, where the desired state (Civil unrest in this case) was the only HGE producing state. So no other factions in Boom, War, Civil War, etc states, that could generate other than the desired HGE (no population limit, why would you want to limit the search choises, large pop is not a guarantee to find hge while low pop is not an outright exclusion)
8th or 9th system visited was Jasiri (bit unlucky, i usually nail it in maximum 4-5 visited stars), one HGE, 40 IC signals (120 units, but the bin tops at 100)
I couldn't really enjoy the "find" since i was already at 85/100 - from way before the patch
bit silly (with the "bit" part being an understatement), but... oh well... it is what it is.
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I suppose at least some of the "grinding" is still there. Although in this case "grinding" could be better called "research", so it's perhaps less tedious and more interesting.I applied my trusted method: search inara for independent/alliance factions in Civil unrest in independent/alliance systems, where the desired state (Civil unrest in this case) was the only HGE producing state. So no other factions in Boom, War, Civil War, etc states, that could generate other than the desired HGE (no population limit, why would you want to limit the search choises, large pop is not a guarantee to find hge while low pop is not an outright exclusion)
8th or 9th system visited was Jasiri (bit unlucky, i usually nail it in maximum 4-5 visited stars), one HGE, 40 IC signals (120 units, but the bin tops at 100)
I couldn't really enjoy the "find" since i was already at 85/100 - from way before the patch
bit silly (with the "bit" part being an understatement), but... oh well... it is what it is.
the "research" doesnt even take as long as a trip to Crystal shards places.
Problem is few people did the research and went to find the hge - it's just so much easier to complain on the forums that Improvised Components are impossible to find and we did end up with this "improvement"
Population is irrelevant to HGE spawns. That was debunked many years ago.Works for Imperial Shielding, Proto Radiolic Alloys and Core Dynamics Composites. These things drop like candy during Halloween
Does not work well for Pharma Isolators, Military Supercapacitors, Improvised Components since the conditions under which they spawn are rare. Eg I didn't find any HGE-s in the few 10...100 million population systems currently in Civil Unrest, and no 1+ billion population systems in that state. Missions are much more reliable source (can we get Military Caps and Improv Compos from missions now? I haven't seen any yet...)
Does not work at all for data materials since you won't find them in HGE-s. Eg doing pirate massacres to get DWE-s is way, way faster and much, much more fun than scanning wakes in a Distribution Center.
I don't believe it. Although I'm just taking a billion dollar boom system and there's a bunch of HGE. And it's easier for me to then fly down and trade that than to look for the right one.
Here I have a question, why has it gotten so good with industrial materials, but where are the changes on raw materials and data ? I don't get it.
Raw materials were previously unattainable via missions, and could only be obtained via surface prospecting (not very good nor reliable) or visiting brain tree/crystal shard sites in specific locations. Crashed Anaconda sites should also spawn additional cargo racks which can be destroyed for a G4 raw [material] drop.
Data materials… well, they apparently increased the data nodes spawned at Jameson’s crash site but not in other locations, and added the G5 types other than Modified Embedded Firmware as mission rewards. Though I haven’t been to that crash site myself since the update and don’t really plan to visit it… at least, certainly not just for materials, in the near future.
Yeah, I know about that. I just don't understand why they haven't made them as accessible as industrial materials. I can find HGE almost anywhere and swap it out for what I need. Why do I have to go to Cobra?
P.S. By the way, who has tried to ride a SRV around the planet and fly into any wrecked ship ?
Maybe there are tons of meteorites at every turn now ? And every crashed ship has tons of data?
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Well, might as well be. Though I feel like I've had better luck finding more HGE-s in high pop sustems vs low pop ones. Then again, I'm too lazy to gather data and do any statistical analysis of this.
These days I just follow the suggestions of Odyssey Material Helper as to where to go searching—has been reliable for me.
As for the improv compos, after spending a few hours going through a dozen systems with a faction in civil unrest I found one HGE containing them. Since you only need them for reinforced shields, I'd say opportunistically collecting them from missions and trading from more abundant materials when you actually need them is a more sensible approach instead of wasting time seeking out HGE-s that contain these things specifically
As for the improv compos, after spending a few hours going through a dozen systems with a faction in civil unrest I found one HGE containing them. Since you only need them for reinforced shields, I'd say opportunistically collecting them from missions and trading from more abundant materials when you actually need them is a more sensible approach instead of wasting time seeking out HGE-s that contain these things specifically
Tbh, yesterday i had more troubles finding Pharmaceutical Isolator than Improvised Components.
Up to the point that i had wondering if they altered the HGE spawn chance for rare materials - most probably it was not changed, but simply the RNG Gods had a way too busy Sunday to hear my pleas.
Pharma Isos have always been rare. Not that many outbreak systems to begin with, and then it's still RNG. I've occasionally spent up to two hours to find a fitting HGE, sometimes I even gave up. This is unchanged in the new patch, search for a HGE may still take very very long. The original HGE system was way superior, where you just had to cruise in deep space at 30km/s, and the HGE would spawn in your path eventually, ready to drop in, as you were so slow.