We developed the ultimate Python Mk2 Core Bomber, which can "solo" the Titan

[Northpin]

What's even more bizarre are incessant obsessive-compulsive attempts to end a valid in-game tactic adopted by a myriad of active players

Self-destruct to replenish premium ammo is far from being an intended in-game tactic or to be advertised in guides - especially when done specifically for this purpose and it's called an exploit (but it's good for FDev sales of Stelar ships that have reduced rebuy... so there is that too )
Pretty much the same like relogging in a HGE - i wouldn't want to see that advertised in guides either
Cause we end up with people learning bad habits instead of learning how to actually play the game and get materials and then the things can go only downhill from here


And not the least, because FDev is not punishing the so called "valid in-game tactic" doesn't mean it is intended gameplay.


PS myriad?

 

[Shadowsnog]

What's even more bizarre are incessant obsessive-compulsive attempts to end a valid in-game tactic adopted by a myriad of active players simply because certain someones don't like it. There's no problem, nobody's forcing anyone else to do it, anyone can play the game the way they want and yet someone really feels the need impose their personal vision of how the game must be played on everyone else.

noone here is calling for any end to any tactic, though if cheating is included then the practice tends to end when exposed. if you feel the need to use or defend such practice feel free to do so, noone here (other than rules) is stopping you neither from doing so, nor from expressing yourself. as opposed to what you claimed previously, this is a place of public discourse and we do care for others peoples opinions.
however theres one thing doing some sketchy strat to cut a corner and theres the other thing of doing a public guide on how to cheese the system with bypassing of intended mechanics. generally these things are being kept hush hush and if you want to present yourself publicly as "hey, everyone is doing it" or something amongst those lines, it is generally frowned upon...

tldr
you want to cry because cheat got exposed?
good.
more.

 

[zimms]

Man, people sure seem to care about this. So much so, that it's apparently impossible to communicate without insulting each other.

 

[SergMx]

yet someone really feels the need impose their personal vision of how the game must be played on everyone else.

I agree. And the amazing thing is that they do it so well that I even change the CG rules on the fly.

 

[Shadowsnog]

i did the thing where when you are confronted with something questionable you ask someone about it
and am glad to announce that it actually is intended mechanism! so feel free to suicide to your full content (in game!) to keep the premium the pews

 

[Sheetrock]

im not sure how to take the suggestion on avoiding premium rearms by suicide. one could almost consider it cheating...

I've been doing this for a while, but have to confess that when I first noticed this occurring (i.e. when I was constantly getting killed by interceptors) and than started occasionally self-destructing so as to replenish the premium ammo, I did feel guilty. However, I realized that I far more enjoyed returning to the Thargoid fight sooner, as opposed to grinding to replenish the materials needed for premium ammo. I use premium ammo in my Xeno Vulture build shard cannons, and find that it gives a mediocre xeno warrior like me an edge, and by extension a more fun experience. All that to say that I'm okay with self-destructing (or letting an interceptor do me in - they need self-fulfillment too...) to maintain my premium ammo edge.

 

[SergMx]

All that to say that I'm okay with self-destructing (or letting an interceptor do me in - they need self-fulfillment too...) to maintain my premium ammo edge.

My translator translated it this way :
I'm willing to lose to the enemy just to save my ammunition.

 

[Sheetrock]

My translator translated it this way :
I'm willing to lose to the enemy just to save my ammunition.

Hilarious - luckily I wasn't sent into combat during my 30+ years as a naval officer

 

[SergMx]

Hilarious - luckily I wasn't sent into combat during my 30+ years as a naval officer

Avoiding combat is also a good way to save ammo

 

[CMDR Mechan]

As promised last week, here is the video guide on how to built the ultimate TitanBomber: a Python Mk2 “stealth bomber” which can, all by itself, reliably and repeatedly zero-out the Thermal Core of the Titan, while remaining almost entirely undetected (and taking minimal damage along the way.)

Included in the video are 5 tips&tricks on how to hit all 8 vents while still having time to be right-on-target when the thermal core exposes.

"Solo" Titan Thor in the Python Mk2!

Source: https://youtu.be/lRAHGZz_43A


Build info:

EDSY

EDSY is a ship outfitting tool for Elite Dangerous

edsy.org

 

[St0rmFury]

Alas, I didn't have enough time last week to farm for tactical core chips to engineer the AGZ protection for my shard cannons. Looks like I'll still be mooching off other cmdrs with my AXMCs this round.

 

[Jack Brolin]

Alas, I didn't have enough time last week to farm for tactical core chips to engineer the AGZ protection for my shard cannons. Looks like I'll still be mooching off other cmdrs with my AXMCs this round.

Sirius missile racks ftw if you can't do shards. And you're not mooching by not doing alllllll the damage, if anything you're giving more people chance to take part, they've been going down pretty quick!

 

[St0rmFury]

Sirius missile racks ftw if you can't do shards. And you're not mooching by not doing alllllll the damage, if anything you're giving more people chance to take part, they've been going down pretty quick!

Before the engineering rework, I find the costs of the Sirius racks rather exorbitant so I just went with EAXMCs.

They do the job well enough to get 2mil bonds in two or three cycles as long as I let someone else bomb the vents in the AXI PG.

 

[SergMx]

Before the engineering rework, I find the costs of the Sirius racks rather exorbitant so I just went with EAXMCs.

They do the job well enough to get 2mil bonds in two or three cycles as long as I let someone else bomb the vents in the AXI PG.

I think in this case it's better to take the regular advanced AX rockets.

AXMC: DPS=37, AMMO=2100, AX-DMG=65%, Pen=33.
Sirius: DPS=48, AMMO=256, AX-DMG=61%, Pen=60
AX miss: DPS=38, AMMO=128, AX-DMG=65%, Pen=60
SHARD: DPS=190, AMMO=180, AX-DMG=50%, Pen=60

At least they have the same penetration.

 

[St0rmFury]

I think in this case it's better to take the regular advanced AX rockets.

AXMC: DPS=37, AMMO=2100, AX-DMG=65%, Pen=33.
Sirius: DPS=48, AMMO=256, AX-DMG=61%, Pen=60
AX miss: DPS=38, AMMO=128, AX-DMG=65%, Pen=60
SHARD: DPS=190, AMMO=180, AX-DMG=50%, Pen=60

At least they have the same penetration.

It's alright, I'm just doing it for the participation trophy. 2mil in bonds and I'm outta there.

EAXMCs are good enough for that.

I thought of giving Mechan's build a try for the challenge but alas, there's just too much going on in my life right now.

Perhaps the next titan after Thor.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I think in this case it's better to take the regular advanced AX rockets.

Sirius: DPS=48, AMMO=256, AX-DMG=61%, Pen=60
AX miss: DPS=38, AMMO=128, AX-DMG=65%, Pen=60

Mind that those 48 and 38 damage rates are not including time spent reloading!

Class 3 Sirius missiles spend almost half the time (−45%) to reload double the ammunition (24 instead of 12). From memory at Titan Hadad, one Core revealed for maximum time should be enough for Sirius missiles to fire two full volleys (48). With a small amount more damage per shot, Enhanced missiles would have to fire almost four of their smaller volleys, which means three reloads summing to 15 seconds—I think the Core would retract before that many missiles are possible!

 

[SergMx]

Mind that those 48 and 38 damage rates are not including time spent reloading!

Class 3 Sirius missiles spend almost half the time (−45%) to reload double the ammunition (24 instead of 12). From memory at Titan Hadad, one Core revealed for maximum time should be enough for Sirius missiles to fire two full volleys (48). With a small amount more damage per shot, Enhanced missiles would have to fire almost four of their smaller volleys, which means three reloads summing to 15 seconds—I think the Core would retract before that many missiles are possible!

1. I have DPS stats, not damage stats.
2. I suggested replacing the AXMC not the Sirius missiles.

 

[CMDR MAmadeo]

can I do this w/o using premium ammo?

 

[Aleks Zuno]

can I do this w/o using premium ammo?

Maximum without premium ammunition is around 80% damage, 20% remaining—that is to say, exactly six full volleys with four class 3 and one class 2 Shard cannons, where the maximum Core time simply is not enough for another reload.

Even waiting by the Core with six Shard cannons while another Commander freezes all vents, I think that would deal 92% leaving 8% without premium ammunition!

 

[SergMx]

Even waiting by the Core with six Shard cannons while another Commander freezes all vents, I think that would deal 92% leaving 8% without premium ammunition!

I don't quite get it, the topic seems to be about solo sailing.