Landing pad doesn't mean its weight.
DE weighs 260 tons, Phantom 270 tons, ASP 280.
She's a beauty! (New ship revealed--Mandalay)
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DE weighs 260 tons, Phantom 270 tons, ASP 280.
Goodness that thing is gorgeous. AND they said it could compete with the 'conda's jump range.
Said I'd never buy the pay-to-win ships, but might just make an exception this time.
MIGHT.
Said I'd never buy the pay-to-win ships, but might just make an exception this time.
MIGHT.
If it's going to have a grade 6 FSD it has to be VERY heavy, otherwise it will jump over 100 years and it will be a META.Of course it is all about predictions to spend time when we are waiting. I do it just for fun
The fact is that jumprange depends on mass weight and FSD class, and to have jumprange similar to explorer or jumpaconda Mandalay should have a waaay less mass than similar size ships, what is not impossible, because the same case is with anaconda tbh.
But, due to the fact that previous two ships are similar mass to other ships with similar sizes I hope for FSD 6.
Why hope? Because no resonIt just be fun to know that my Mandalay has the same FSD drive as jumpaconda
P.S. My predictions : it will be light, on the order of 250 tons and will have 5 FSD and one 5 slot for FSD boost guardians.
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Robert Maynard
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Indeed. Landing pads are subject to dimensional limits: length, width and height.
On the subject of ship size and hull mass: small ships vary between 14t and 260t hull mass; medium ships between 150t and 580t and large ships between 290t and 1,200t.
If sorted by hull weight in Coriolis, this would correspond to the FSD. Except for Anaconda ... she's the exception.
And hull mass and fsd class isn't enough to predict jumprange.
But I checked for fun one thing. Fully equipped Asp X and FSD 6A SCO... it comes with 98 Ly jumprange, but our new generation ships are slightly heavier. So additional 50T of hull mass to the original mass of explorer... and we have more reasonable 89 Ly
50-100 T is the difference between Python and Python Mk II or Type 7 and Type 8
That's why my logic support my predictions
Again, I have just a lot of fun with that.
But I checked for fun one thing. Fully equipped Asp X and FSD 6A SCO... it comes with 98 Ly jumprange, but our new generation ships are slightly heavier. So additional 50T of hull mass to the original mass of explorer... and we have more reasonable 89 Ly
50-100 T is the difference between Python and Python Mk II or Type 7 and Type 8
That's why my logic support my predictions
Again, I have just a lot of fun with that.
So you think it will weigh 350 tons and have 6 FSDs.And hull mass and fsd class isn't enough to predict jumprange.
But I checked for fun one thing. Fully equipped Asp X and FSD 6A SCO... it comes with 98 Ly jumprange, but our new generation ships are slightly heavier. So additional 50T of hull mass to the original mass of explorer... and we have more reasonable 89 Ly
50-100 T is the difference between Python and Python Mk II or Type 7 and Type 8
That's why my logic support my predictions
Again, I have just a lot of fun with that.
It looks like a small ship to me, just from its large wings it only fits on the middle pad. It's like the Clipper.
Or it will have a ridiculously lightweight hull for its size, just like the Anaconda.
My bet is that that's what will be the case. I don't consider it impossible that they will go with the class-6 FSD (that would make it the medium-ship equivalent to the DBX, which technically has a "one size too big" FSD for a small ship, to give it a ridiculously large jump range), but I find it somewhat unlikely.
The Anaconda is a strange ship altogether. But Mandalay's are just big wings.
This is pretty funny picture:
But...
But...
- dimensions are from the web here and there, nothing official
- every dimension is in scale 1:1000 - proportions are fine, because it is a tool in CorelDraw to drawing dimensions
- perspective isn't perfectly matched
- the small rectangular shape is dimension of the S-pad - compared to this one from this screenshot, so it is pretty accurate
Remember that this pictures doesn't show big height of the ship, what is very important in this case.
The cool thing would be no folding wings, but upon hitting the landing sweet spot, the ship executes an auto 90° turn in the last meter or so.
By the way, the weight of Mamba = 250 tons. If you put a DE on top of that...
I'm not sure it would fit (as depicted) on a medium landing pad even if turned 90 degrees.
shoudl fit, M-pad is like 150 meters.
Yes it would. Just measured the M.Ryan's picture (crude, with a pencil as a ruler) and it would.
Isn't the whole basis for this picture the assumption that the cockpit is the exact same size as the Mamba's and not a smaller one with the same shape?
She's a beauty! (New ship revealed--Mandalay)
Surprised no one is talking more about this (shamelessly ripped from Pit's video): Retractable or foldable wings will be a thing here. Although it would be a laugh if FDev just said they were just going to have it noclip through the docking bay.
Exactly. There is assumption that this is exactly the same size of cockpit.
I think it's safe to say they are the same size.
As a VR user, I'm kinda sensitive to cockpits. They are complicated and intricate, and it's much easier to build a new ship using the existing cockpit (like they did with Python II, for example. Half of the work already done)
More than likely. However when it comes down to fitting on a medium pad, I'm more willing to go for some kind of retractable or rotating wing than anything that needs a rework on how station landing works.
Especially given that Diamondbacks and Alliance ships (possibly more, but those stick out to me) have rotating parts when landing gear is deployed.