Steppes are flat grasslands, the cover art would absolutely not fit then, and I can't say for other two, but Hamadryas Baboon is definitely not a steppe animal
Edit: Steppe is also regionally exclusive term
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Edit: Steppe is also regionally exclusive term
Stretching this a lot could give us something like this:Ohh I like this idea, it's quite out of the box!
So we would get a Shetland pony then (horse)?And some kind of snake (cobra?), some kind of dragon (bearded dragon?) a dog (bush dog?) but also ANOTHER tiger? Another pig too (kune kune?) and a rooster (no idea what kind) Very interesting!
- Rat - Red Rat Snake (Standard Exhibit)
- Ox - Gaur
- Tiger - Pallas's Cat
- Rabbit - Flemish Giant
- Dragon - Central Bearded Dragon (Standard Exhibit)
- Snake - King Cobra (Standard Exhibit)
- Horse - Shetland Pony
- Goat - Markhor
- Monkey - Hamadryas Baboon
- Rooster - Domestic Turkey
- Dog - Grey-Headed Flying Fox (Walthrough Exhibit)
- Pig - Pig-Nosed Turtle (Standard Exhibit)
i think one thing that is worth to mention, is that husbandry of big reptiles, mainly snakes, can change radically on different countries.
Here in Brazil for example it's not uncommon to see big, lushuous outdoor habitats for snakes, like this one from Belo Horizonte
Souce: https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/yellow-anaconda-exhibit-belo-horizonte-zoo.572412/
Or this one on Rio from Pythons:
Source: https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/python-exhibit-bioparque-do-rio.533118/
And this one at Salvador, with Pythons as well:
Spot the pythons - Salvador zoo (PZGV) - ZooChat
Enclosure holding reticulated and burmese phytons.
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And while not snakes, there's the famous mix of Black caimans, primates, capybaras, arrau turtles and both wild and zoo birds at Brasilia zoo.
to be fair, ever since a pack like this started to be speculated upon, it was usually referred to as a "highlands" pack not a "mountains" pack. And highlands does not only include peaks
Yeah thats not possible where i ami think one thing that is worth to mention, is that husbandry of big reptiles, mainly snakes, can change radically on different countries.
Here in Brazil for example it's not uncommon to see big, lushuous outdoor habitats for snakes, like this one from Belo Horizonte
Souce: https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/yellow-anaconda-exhibit-belo-horizonte-zoo.572412/
Or this one on Rio from Pythons:
Source: https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/python-exhibit-bioparque-do-rio.533118/
And this one at Salvador, with Pythons as well:
Spot the pythons - Salvador zoo (PZGV) - ZooChat
Enclosure holding reticulated and burmese phytons.
And while not snakes, there's the famous mix of Black caimans, primates, capybaras, arrau turtles and both wild and zoo birds at Brasilia zoo.
.I saw outdoor snake habitats in a zoo before, but they were local species like european adder.
Not familiar with that habitat, how do they prevent the caiman from eating the rest?
I imagine with dwarf and maybe even spectacled its no issue keeping it with capybara since they are to big to eat. But black caiman are huge
Well that's mostly a climate issue--those big snakes can live outdoors in Brazil all year. In North America snakes are pretty much always kept indoors, but giant tortoises and American alligators can be kept outdoors for the bulk of the year while also having winter quarters (though they can be out all year in places like Florida). Outdoor aquatic turtle ponds are quite common too; species like the pond slider can be kept outdoors all year as they'll just brumate over the winter.i think one thing that is worth to mention, is that husbandry of big reptiles, mainly snakes, can change radically on different countries.
Here in Brazil for example it's not uncommon to see big, lushuous outdoor habitats for snakes, like this one from Belo HorizonteSouce: https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/yellow-anaconda-exhibit-belo-horizonte-zoo.572412/
Or this one on Rio from PythonSource: https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/python-exhibit-bioparque-do-rio.533118/
And this one at Salvador, with Pythons as well:
Spot the pythons - Salvador zoo (PZGV) - ZooChat
Enclosure holding reticulated and burmese phytons.
And while not snakes, there's the famous mix of Black caimans, primates, capybaras, arrau turtles and both wild and zoo birds at Brasilia zoo.
The Japanese zodiac has a wild boar instead of a pig, a cat instead of a rabbit, and a goat in place of a sheep.If I'm not mistaken some versions of the calendar have a cat instead of a rabbit
Ah i see! I had it in my head that Steppe was just a term for mountain but it seems it’s the opposite
thanks for clearing that up 
I agree with the people who say that Highlands aren't just the peaks of the mountains. And also the name of the pack is merely a marketing thing, it doesn't need to be 100% accurate with the content. For me, a Highlands or mountain pack can include animals that live in snowy peaks like the Pallas's cat, on cliffs like the baboon, on rocky mountains like the markhor, on Alpine meadows like the marmot, on cloud mountain forests like the spectacled bear, on lush mountain forests like the tree kangaroo...and even on icebergs like another penguin.
No-one is thinking of penguins and mountains, but I wouldn't be surprised to get the southern rock hopper penguin in a mountain pack.
No-one is thinking of penguins and mountains, but I wouldn't be surprised to get the southern rock hopper penguin in a mountain pack.
i'm not sure how they do to prevent it either, the three explanations that i've seen are:
The lake and islands are very big, hence the animals can avoid each other with safety.
The caimans have a lot of food, so they would't have any reason to attack the other animals.
The individuals at Brasilia aren't partucularly big, which seens unlikely given that by this photos the animals seens to have a decent size:
(This is one of the primate island btw.)
Otherwise, i'm not sure, by what i know, the mix between caiman and capybara have been done on the Temaiken biopark, so maybe @NachoB might know better how this mix is done.
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Depends. Here we have the anaconda in a n outdoorsy enclosure (right next to the monkeys, I might add
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Yeah I don't think that is what people meant. Like, of course mountains have forests nobody disagrees with that, but that's not the first thing you think about when you think of when you picture a mountain. Same goes with highlands, yes those can be forested, but is that really what you think of first when you picture highlands?
Personally I think that's the thing that made me doubt mountain/highlands most. If I look at all the other biome based animal packs, you can take away the animals and I'll still instantly know what it is. Wetlands has an obvious wetland, Arid has an obvious desert, Grasslands has grasslands. Sure, you'd get different nuances with people calling it Prairie Pack or Desert Pack; but there wouldn't be much more than that. I just can't say that for this artwork. Take away the animals, and all I see is a forest.
And if we're talking about good marketing, I do think that a good marketing image should make it instantly clear, even if you don't know the animal on the key-art. You shouldn't have to know that it's a mountain animal to know it's a mountain pack. Heck, Grasslands still is instantly recognizable as grassland/steppe/prairie even despite the fact that the featured animal wasn't an animal people would instantly list if you say "give me a bunch of grassland animals."
Same goes for the colour. Colour should double down on the theme, but not be essential to understand the theme. This might just be me, as accessibility is important in my field of work and people who are colour blind should also be able to guess the theme instantly. I'm not saying that it's something that Frontier takes into account, but I at least hope they do.
That being said, I really do also see the arguments for Highlands. Mountains not so much, then the artwork would really not be good at conveying it; but highlands I could understand what they went for. Even though I still wouldn't give it a price for the best key-art for that
I don't think so. At least not for everything. Like, when I think of Barnyards, my mind would go to red or brown to representing ranch buildings (or white to represent ranch sauce
)Africa, I would go to tan, not red. Southeast Asia I'd do gray, actually, for the stone architecture there, not purple.
But maybe I'm just weird
I especially want wascally wabbits with Bronx accentsOh yes pweeeeeeeeese!!! Bunnies needed
Wait, the foliage at the front is grape vines isn't it? Maybe it's a Bacchanalia Animal pack.
I'm still not fully convinced that this is a Highland's/Mountain pack, Base Game Decorations that have no need to be there, a Party tent in a background and a Zoo keeper tending to the Markhors? Very weird for me...
I guess this week will tell, if there may be a teaser image again with an African Safari making it officially a Collection or Celebration or a trailer on friday who knows?!
I guess this week will tell, if there may be a teaser image again with an African Safari making it officially a Collection or Celebration or a trailer on friday who knows?!
I don’t think it is either. I think it’s some sort of celebration type pack. Maybe that’s why it has taken so long.