Evacuation Mission Running

[Uname654]

and here is my mod for Imperial Clipper
https://edsy.org/s/vbSvvEp

Not a specialist so, comments welcome.

Yes, that puny fuel scoop and the tank are a PITA.
Will add more cargo/cabins if I can figure out how to not lose all the passengers

 

[Uname654]

Again, all passengers are taken by Thargoids. What I cant figure out, is how to get them back. There is no signal to follow.

 

[Pask]

Again, all passengers are taken by Thargoids. What I cant figure out, is how to get them back. There is no signal to follow.

Click this link to Thargoid EVAC missions: how to avoid Schytes, Glaives & fines, it's a mini-guide i wrote in tutorial section, hope it will be useful.

 

[Uname654]

They disabled all Search and Rescue contacts in Sol system? Right. That makes sense. NOT!

 

[Ashnak]

and here is my mod for Imperial Clipper

Ok, so I may be talking a lot of - I've been out of ED for some time now (currently trying to infiltrate Moonrise Towers...) and never saw the point of a Clipper (medium ship that needs a large pad?), but this is my evac Phantom.

Coriolis EDCD Edition

A ship builder, outfitting and comparison tool for Elite Dangerous

s.orbis.zone

Ignore the xeno scanner and field neutralizer, they're useless. An ECM (see https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ns-how-to-avoid-schytes-glaives-fines.630991/ ) might be a better choice.
The reasoning behind it:

• with enough overall jump range, you shouldn't need a scoop inside the bubble (ok, I just realized that the Clipper has a rather small tank - so I'd schedule a refuelling stop)
• you don't need guns for evac missions. If attacked, you run.
• the build relies on stealth and speed, and there are no shields while silent running. So stock up on heat sinks, and get the smallest shield that will still work on the ship
• to compensate for the shields, try to get the toughest hull that still gives you enough speed

Usual MO for getting into large stations was to drop out of SC, line up with the slot as good as possible at 7 km out, get docking permission, go silent, drop a heat sink and run in. Careful with the boost, you don't want to bump against the station withhout shields. With that build, one sink is good enough to get to the station. Outposts and surface ports require a bit more finesse, but are basically the same.

If (or rather, when) I got hyperdicted on the run back,

• boost
• go silent
• heat sink
• keep up boosting with the occasional HS until I could charge the FSD again, then jump out.

It's a Phantom - they should be wondering whether they had hyperdicted anything at all

A corresponding Clipper could look something like this.

They disabled all Search and Rescue contacts in Sol system? Right. That makes sense. NOT!

Sure does. With limited resources, it makes sense to devote those to getting people and everything else out of the system and not devote them to add even more load to the already strained rescue effort. If you alreaady got escape pods and whatnot in your hold, it's only one short jump to the next system over where you can offload them at a fully working station.

 

[Uname654]

Thanks @Ashnak. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

I picked up some escape pods in Sol so I thought I'll return them. Not happening. Office close. Problem is that the moment you try to jump out of Sol, you get hyperdicted and they also take the pods. All I was left with was a black box.

This is getting rather expensive and kinda annoying. I'll give it one more go and see what happens. At this point, it starts to feel that it's probably more humane to take the refugees behind the station and just shoot them. Saves them from unknown horrors living with Thargoids. (It's also speculated that Thargoids are actually fun and friendly like Teletubbies but their AI driven ships went off the rails and here we are now. Sounds plausable. Not shooting the passengers... yet)

 

[Factabulous]

Having S&R hand-in of pods inside Sol makes no sense - we're supposed to be Evacuating Sol, not filling it with more people ...

I can imagine forumites happily ferrying people back onto the Titanic with a cheery 'far nicer than those cold lifeboats eh?'

 

[Uname654]

If you are moving sausages from the left side of the plate to the right, you are not filing the plate.
Those pods and who ever was in those pods is now gone for good.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

I just build for speed with evac ships.
When hyperdicted turn away from the Scythe boost and heat sink.
Haven't lost a single person during Sol so far.
I fly an Orca.

 

[Uname654]

Bad guys are in the station, waiting to get a ride. I have no idea if they get on my ship with other refugees or not.

The moment I exit the station with 100+ refugees, my ship is blown up by cops working for the fraction running the station I just left.
That makes absolutely no sense at all... and it cost me 2.5 million.

 

[Ashnak]

If your ship is blown up by cops (and not players a.k.a. Gankers) lurking around the station, they had time to scan your ship. You're too slow . Switch off the ADC, line up with the slot on the inside of the station, go silent and boost out, same as with the 'goids. At >300 m/s, no cop will have the time to scan you, especially if you're as good as invisible. Just don't ram anything on your way out, that's a fine at the very least (and a bounty plus notoriety if whoever you rammed dies while you're still around).

If it's gankers, they'll shoot (or otherwise kill) you without scanning first. Boosting out doesn't help either - one of their tactics is to have an unshielded Sidewinder parked near the slot which they try to put in your way when boosting out...

 

[Rhialto]

Here's my current evacuation build; Nebucadnezar
It can take some beating, and take out Glaives which try to steal my passengers.
If they manage to extract passengers i can retrieve them, hence the limpet controller and cargo space.
i use the pre engineered Fsd, because it boots faster.

 

[Uname654]

As I understand now (and have seen it mentioned here), Point Defense is completely useless against Thargoid missiles. Yes, it makes 0 sense.
I guess devs forgot to add a bit somewhere.

 

[Rhialto]

As I understand now (and have seen it mentioned here), Point Defense is completely useless against Thargoid missiles. Yes, it makes 0 sense.
I guess devs forgot to add a bit somewhere.

I was hoping the point defence would help against the Glaive's limpets.
I was hyperdicted by a Glaive, and it stole several of my passengers, i shot down the Glaive, but found out i didn't have enough cargo space to store the passengers' escape pods.
So i swapped out one passenger cabin for a cargo rack, and added a point defence, haven't had de chance to see if it works.

 

[Phill P]

I was hoping the point defence would help against the Glaive's limpets.
I was hyperdicted by a Glaive, and it stole several of my passengers, i shot down the Glaive, but found out i didn't have enough cargo space to store the passengers' escape pods.
So i swapped out one passenger cabin for a cargo rack, and added a point defence, haven't had de chance to see if it works.

That wasn't a Glaive, it was a Scythe. The Scythe steals your passengers, the Glaive does not. A lot of people get confused about this.

Forget Point Defence, waste of time.

Source: https://youtu.be/ctFs-xjxRCw

 

[Vlad plus]

you can build a Cutter, use ecm against missiles, "silent"+HS -> immediately after you lose your shields and jump. Shields are needed because some passengers will abandon the mission if the hull is damaged. The problem is that the rewards in materials have become smaller than before for transporting passengers.

 

[Phill P]

Shields are needed because some passengers will abandon the mission if the hull is damaged.

You do not want your shield on when a Scythe attacks, and I have never had anyone abandon a mission due to hull damage. Always been able to hand in every mission, I usually take a little hull damage and I've been running shieldless for over a year with no lost passengers or missions.

 

[Vlad plus]

You do not want your shield on when a Scythe attacks, and I have never had anyone abandon a mission due to hull damage. Always been able to hand in every mission, I usually take a little hull damage and I've been running shieldless for over a year with no lost passengers or missions.

because you carry "economy class cabins", 1st class passengers can refuse, this is written in the details of the contract. For “economy”, instead of shields, you can install a coprus amplifier \ cabins and additional HS

 

[Phill P]

because you carry "economy class cabins", 1st class passengers can refuse, this is written in the details of the contract. For “economy”, instead of shields, you can install a coprus amplifier and additional HS

You still want to turn the shield off before encountering the Scythe, otherwise you risk its lighting attack. First class passengers are not really worth messing about with, save them for non war situations.

What is coprus amplifier?

Heat sinks are not the magic cure for non detection people think they are. This comes from not understanding the difference between heat and emissions. I haven't used or needed one for over a year but if I did take them I would use them in conjunction with silent running.

 

[Vlad plus]

5D Hull Reinforcement Package (typo) , i drive passengers solely to get the necessary materials, they are not always available in “economy missions” .

I haven't used or needed one for over a year but if I did take them I would use them in conjunction with silent running.

that's right, that's what i said above : "silent"+HS