Newcomer / Intro Undiscovered systems have ever been explored , but how can they still be classified undiscovered ?

Hi CMDRs,
Just a basic question.
I started to look for undiscovered systems to improve my exploration abilities.
Could found lot of them, but each time, post scanning, all of them were ever discovered, mapped, and when possible landed for the most of them.
I'm searching closed unexplored systems from ED map menu user parameters as in exobiology exploration.
So, which is(are) the point(s) I miss here ?
 
The galaxy map shows only which systems you have not yet 'discovered', it doesn't tell if someone else has been there before you.
 
Thanks Zieman !
You are my preferred Christmas Grinch ever. (I love your avatar !) ;-)
More seriously, or not : Stupid me !
Now, another question : Why lot of systems I have never visited or crossed are not referenced as undiscovered ?
And yet another one : How to find totally unknown systems ?
But, finally, just to be your Grinch for tonight ( ;-) ) : Within those systems I explored, I got some recognized as "first discovered" as I registered them. Only some. Why ?

All in all, best wishes for the new year, and definatley, I love your avatar.
 
OK, you are probably in the wrong area, there are very few undiscovered systems within 1,000 Ly of the bubble, the further away you get, the greater the chance of finding them.

When you jump into a system look at your radar, if the main star and other stars - planets appear immediately the system has been discovered and mapped, if only the main star appears immediately then it is either a single star system or a visited but unmapped system, if the main star takes several seconds to appear you are then in an undiscovered system, this can easily be checked by opening up the system map and selecting the main star if it does not say "first discovered by" then you are probably the first in the system.

There are a few systems that the main star for a number of reasons has not been mapped. there are a lot of systems fairly near the bubble that have been skipped through, visited but not mapped, so if you are on the lookout for Bio's always scan and map whenever you enter a system.
 
Thanks Zieman !
You are my preferred Christmas Grinch ever. (I love your avatar !) ;-)
More seriously, or not : Stupid me !
Now, another question : Why lot of systems I have never visited or crossed are not referenced as undiscovered ?
And yet another one : How to find totally unknown systems ?
But, finally, just to be your Grinch for tonight ( ;-) ) : Within those systems I explored, I got some recognized as "first discovered" as I registered them. Only some. Why ?

All in all, best wishes for the new year, and definatley, I love your avatar.
You're welcome. And thanks re: avatar :)
Within inhabited space there are lots of known systems, discovered long time ago and several times over, so even if you won't see the details until you scan the system with FSS (or scan the nav beacon), they won't show as undiscovered.
To find totally unknown systems, your best bet is to travel a bit further out, say 3-5000 LY, not heading towards anything that looks interesting, maybe even less if you head out above or below the galactic plane. Good indication is that when you 'honk' and see notification of bunch of bodies found, but the radar shows only star(s).
Many systems are only partially scanned with the FSS (or with the preceding way of doing things), and most bodies outside inhabited space & certain exploration hotspots are not mapped with DSS - you get credit for fist discovery and/or mapping the ones you do scan/map.
 
Thanks all as it now totally makes sense.
Definitely, It seems I'm too close of the bubble.
I know now what my next trip will be planned for...
 
From the Bubble a lot of people have gone straight up or down to the edge of the galaxy, they have also headed straight in towards the core and out to the closest part of the rim, Colonia is a much travelled direction as are various named nebulae and well known stars. However if you do head in one of those directions getting off the direct track by a few hundred light years will improve your chances of first discoveries.

Picking somewhere really boring looking as your distant destination can also help.
 
If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?

Isn't there a special order of monks whose purpose is solely to ensure that all events in nature are actually observed? ;)

Oh and @SparcT1 - as well as moving sideways from well-trodden routes*, moving up (or down) a few hundred Ly from the plane of the galaxy also helps.

* See maps at EDAstro to illustrate travelled paths:

 
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Now dont be disappointed when you 'discover' an 'undiscovered' system and planets, even getting 'First Footfall' message when you get off your ship, but that planets has either lotsa escape pods and wreckage and even worse... human structures on them.
 
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