DLC 19 Speculation

Yeah i defintely fall into that last category. I mean i agree that sifakas were never gonna be perfect, but surely they could do better than this right?
Like at the very least reuse the jumping on horizontal climbing. And ideally some kind of new enrichment item were they can behave naturally.
Idk for me its just when an animal doesnt behave atleast semi believable im just not gonna use it. That said i never really had much desire for this species so ultimately i dont really care too much that its essentially dead weight for me. I just think its kind of a shame
I do agree that the jumping on horizontal climbing honestly should have been there. It's the one thing I personally consider doable enough for it to be a shame that it's not in. And maybe they could have adjusted the climbing resting animation as well. Other than that, I don't think there was much room for improvement in the current climbing system. For me that's okay, but I do understand that everyone is different in that regard.

Which would be dumb, as the second wildebeest was neither a replacement or a remaster...
Whilst that's factually correct, is it really that hard to understand that people see it as such? :p It has a significant better texture and model, it's the one that people think of when they think of wildebeest, for those who are really into zoo populations its the more common one of the two, etc.

I don't know, I fully understand that you might not see it that way, but it isn't rocket science why people see it as a replacement/remaster. It's only dumb if you're being really pedantic about it if you ask me 😅
 
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No offense, but I doubt that. Savannah, yes makes sense but I doubt Komodo is number one. It’s a relatively “new” species in zoos which confuses me even more :p
I literally gave you the numbers and while zootierliste has many flaws I doubt its incredibly wrong about this.
I also could be underestimating water monitors based on subspecies numbers since taxonomy isnt clear but even then it wouldnt be first by much. The only reason I checked was because I assumed the komodo would be solidly number 1 which its not first by much the gap between first and third is very small.
 
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I like the Black Wildebeest for being an alternative and apparently they’re not great in mixed habitats irl so they’re cool for their own solo habitats, but they are definitely outdated and blue wildebeests are more iconic and look better so I understand everyone moving on from them. I just wish they gave us the blue’s new color variants on the Black so that we can get some new life and more realism in the patterning (similar to the new Batrian Camel Colors after the Dromedary dropped)
 
Even the nile lechwe?

I remember saiga and quokka were fairly up. And doesn't surprise me since they are popular even outside this forum and among broader audiences.
I only went as far back as the grasslands, but yeah I think the Nile Lechwe was an oddball as well and maybe the Wild Water Buffalo and Spectacled Caiman.. Twilight and Conservation rosters were all popular picks IIRC. If I looked back at 2021 I'd be pretty confident in saying that the Dhole was also not that popularly requested but otherwise most were solid picks.
 
Let's not get too excited yet...this may well be for the Eurasia/Oceania bundle release date. I do have that right as the last two to be released?

OTOH, it's quite possible they'll remind us something IS coming for PZ for PC....though I'm guessing they won't say what and when just yet ---probably not until March's unlocked at earliest.
 
I literally gave you the numbers and while zootierliste has many flaws I doubt its incredibly wrong about this.
I also could be underestimating water monitors based on subspecies numbers since taxonomy isnt clear but even then it wouldnt be first by much. The only reason I checked was because I assumed the komodo would be solidly number 1 which its not first by much the gap between first and third is very small.
ZooTierListe is missing many SE Asian facilities and American “smaller” facilities in terms of full species.
 
At the same time, they did not say anything about PZ being in Unlocked on the PZ twitter page. This could still come etc, but for now I assume there won't be nothing or nothing major for us.
I assume the earliest we receive the promised dlc would be easter, so the Unlocked I am really curious about would be the one in march. This one will probably just remind everyone of the last update.
 
using zootierliste it looks like komodo dragon is first at 130
second and third are close though with the savannah monitor at 119 and asian water montior at 111.

Nile montior I think is 6th at 72

No offense, but I doubt that. Savannah, yes makes sense but I doubt Komodo is number one. It’s a relatively “new” species in zoos which confuses me even more :p

If Zootierliste isn't convincing enough for you, here is a quote from an overview of monitor lizards in zoos published back in 2016:

Komodo has 130
Nile has 71
Asian water has 111
Savannah has 119

So komodo seems to be the most common indeed, which suprised me aswell. Although the asian watermonitor seems to have some funky taxonomy going on with some subspecies and some very similar species which may or may not be subspecies, which all would add another couple holdings probably surpassing the komodo if all counted as one.

ZooTierListe is missing many SE Asian facilities and American “smaller” facilities in terms of full species.

For curiosity you all made me have a look too. I checked the species360 information available in the IUCN website and I found the following numbers:

1) Komodo dragon: 256 animals in 105 institutions in 29 countries
2) Asian water monitor: 95 animals in 50 insititutions in 26 countires
3) Lace monitor: 117 animals in 46 institutions in 13 countries
4) Savanna Monitor: 48 animals in 39 institutions in 20 contires
5) Nile monitor: 50 animals in 34 institutions in 19 countires
6) Perentie: 48 animals in 19 institutions in 3 countries
 
Personally I think there’s better odds we get something, I’m not guessing a full showing of what’s coming. I’m definitely feeling a teaser though. I think what they did with ZooKeeper was great, I don’t see why they wouldn’t do that again.
At this point i don't feel any excitement about the streams. Just anxious and afraid of being dissapointed again.
Yeah I pretty much only tune in to PZ, and I know we have talked about it but I’m not exactly “excited” for the next DLC I’m just more curious to see what it is. Now if the teaser is good obviously I’ll be a hypocrite and change my tune 🤣
At the same time, they did not say anything about PZ being in Unlocked on the PZ twitter page. This could still come etc, but for now I assume there won't be nothing or nothing major for us.
I assume the earliest we receive the promised dlc would be easter, so the Unlocked I am really curious about would be the one in march. This one will probably just remind everyone of the last update.
Personally I don’t put much stock into the PZ twitter and other social media pages. If they don’t specify its console anytime between now and the stream I think we could get something in regards to the next DLC.
 
Yeah, I feel like them not specifying console increases the odds it’s for both. Could just be a brief mention, though…

I’m sure they’ll be talking about the next console bundle and what happens after the season pass (reminding folks that Barnyard and Zookeeper are coming). Could see them reminding us that more is coming for PC too and that could be that.M

More than that would be awesome, though.
 
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