So how will the bubble end up?

[Nighthawk1983]

Just an honest question here, after seeing a lot of comments about peoples choices of their Home system.
I seen multiple people and groups saying they are building towards their main system. So my question goes.

How will this leave the bubble? I mean if people build one outpost to just be able to get to the next system and in the long run finally get to the system of choice. How can this in anyway be good for the bubble if there is highways after highways of systems with 1 outpost?
I dont think this was how they intended it to end up. But I fear thats how it's gonna be... Hundreds of systems left behind, blocking for others in the long run.

Is this why the range of 16LY was a bad move? And again us out here in the deep black (colonia) cant expand.
But looking at the starmap now its like hundreds of systems ocupied, I just wonder how many of these are actually places people want to be? Or is it like highways to peoples favorite choice of Home system?

 

[Obi Wan Naboo]

It's like a gold rush out there. People are grabbing systems left and right, and with some dedication you can finish an outpost in a day and move on to the next unclaimed system.

There won't be anything left to colonize in a couple of months, and active factions will at least double or triple in size. Then it'll be utter chaos in the galaxy.

 

[Tifu]

How can this in anyway be good for the bubble if there is highways after highways of systems with 1 outpost?
I dont think this was how they intended it to end up. But I fear thats how it's gonna be... Hundreds of systems left behind, blocking for others in the long run.

Blocking someone else from building a system outside of the Bubble isn't possible because anyone can use the colonization contact in any colony to claim a star system out there.

And there are so many of them.

 

[IstvaanDCIV]

The colonisation feature looks to me like it was explicitly designed to stop blocking. Until a primary starport has finished construction, a claim can always lapse and then the system is open for anyone else to claim. Once the first starport is completed, then anyone else can use the colonisation contact to build another colony in a neighbouring star system. If a volume of space within the bubble is full up, then the edges of the bubble are going to provide plenty of space to choose from, never mind the rest of the galaxy.

I don't see why an inhabited system with a lone Outpost is any less valid a configuration than something more complex. It's not like there aren't any little villages or lonely rest stops along highways in real life.

It's going to look complex and chaotic. Which is as it should be for a massive colonisation push that has no overall top-down organisation. Especially given that human civilisation in the world of Elite isn't some unified Empire that has the entire galaxy marching in lockstep, but is instead a melange of various political interests.

I'm reasonably certain that system colonisation will come to Colonia at some point, and then there will be another boom in system colonisation. Failing that, it's looking like one can start building the next colony in a chain as soon as all the commodities required for an Outpost are delivered, instead of having to wait for the weekly tick. So it may well be faster for Commanders to bridge out to Colonia and other far-flung places than we initially thought.

 

[thistle]

There won't be anytihng left in a few months?

The bubble currently is around 20,000 systems.

The galaxy has 400 billion systems.

If a massive number of ED players do this, say 100,000 players, and they each colonise 100 systems, thats only 10 million systems.

(edit - and this is way more than will actually happen)

 

[Mrc_NorthEast]

I am still hoping the Titans reconstruct themselves... And then we will all have a reason to be colonizing away from the bubble

 

[Felix DiCestria]

It kind of depends on how the PMS groups do.
Presumably they'll want to settle down at some point and actually build up the systems they claimed. That should slow down the rabid territorial grab, though how long that takes is anyone's guess.
For those of us who want to escape the bland grey gloop of the PMS we will need to "daisy-chain" out though how far again depends how quickly the PMS mob run out of steam.

 

[nemolomen]

It kind of depends on how the PMS groups do.
Presumably they'll want to settle down at some point and actually build up the systems they claimed. That should slow down the rabid territorial grab, though how long that takes is anyone's guess.
For those of us who want to escape the bland grey gloop of the PMS we will need to "daisy-chain" out though how far again depends how quickly the PMS mob run out of steam.

Did you mean PMF, or was that intentional?

 

[aRJay]

It's like a gold rush out there. People are grabbing systems left and right, and with some dedication you can finish an outpost in a day and move on to the next unclaimed system.

There won't be anything left to colonize in a couple of months, and active factions will at least double or triple in size. Then it'll be utter chaos in the galaxy.

Yes in two months the whole galaxy will be colonised.
As long as we can keep up the rate of 277,000.000 colonies per hour

 

[Felix DiCestria]

Did you mean PMF, or was that intentional?

Think I'll leave it to ponder.

 

[Nighthawk1983]

I just hope there will be somthing left when and if this update ever will get to be used at colonia... We have the vendor out here but cant use him... Personally I think its so bad telling people for years to leave the bubble and explore the big Universe and then just bail us with such a big update (game Loop)
I just dont want to travel back to the bubble and start a projekt I know I'll leave behind. And if we only get to use it out here when the bubble reaches, well then we will be so far behind in the game that its really not worth it.. so for me at least it seems like a very big mess.

But lets see how the tweeking and fixing will go, My gues is at the time we get to use the features out here it will be at a pricepoint of billions instead of the 25mill atm.
Higher price, but less materials needed.

But I hope its fun and your all enjoying trucking time

 

[nemolomen]

But I hope its fun and your all enjoying trucking time

If you mean sitting at a ground port waiting form CMM to spawn until I can fill my hold, meh...

 

[Commander Biscuit]

I just dont want to travel back to the bubble and start a projekt I know I'll leave behind. And if we only get to use it out here when the bubble reaches

It could be the Trailblazer megaships we're grinding the CG for more of, will be dotted around the galaxy to allow an on-rails amount of outposts. Colonia is the obvious first choice of places to add one.

On subject of that CG; launching colonization in the middle of it has taken a lot of wind out the sails, and reaching the higher tiers was already badly calculated.

 

[aRJay]

It could be the Trailblazer megaships we're grinding the CG for more of, will be dotted around the galaxy to allow an on-rails amount of outposts. Colonia is the obvious first choice of places to add one.

On subject of that CG; launching colonization in the middle of it has taken a lot of wind out the sails, and reaching the higher tiers was already badly calculated.

Yes we should never have talked them into extending the previous CG.

 

[Tifu]

Yes we should never have talked them into extending the previous CG.

They better give those megaship pilots hefty bonuses because 4 ships are going to have to cover what 8 were supposed to do.

And even a full megaship complement would have been hard pressed to cover all major colonization areas.

 

[Mersozz]

I remember seeing a documentary on sea turtles. The baby turtles hatch on land and then scamper across the beach to get to the open sea. The colonization beta reminds me of that scene.

Personally I feel that the system architect should have sole ability to expand from their colonised system but that’s not how it was designed.

 

[Muzz UK]

Half the claimed systems will be unclaimed in a month as loads of commanders aren't going to complete the required work. That's not a moan I am happy its a hefty requirement should be something special to own a station/system.

 

[Rainbro]

I'm most interested in the effect that teleporting factions will have. I mean, for gameplay purposes, it barely matters. But it's a pretty seismic shift for BGS players for moving a faction across the bubble to go from the work of months and years to instantaneous. Used to be a long term goal for bragging rights, will people keep caring once this becomes normal?

Also it'll be completely impossible to suppress a faction. Things like Sirius Business and Wych Hunt can no longer happen, because a faction could be reduced to nothing and then pop up elsewhere with no way to stop it. I think that's a bit of a shame.

Overall, I wonder if it'll lead to the bubble becoming even more homogenous if any faction can go anywhere. Eventually we'll run out of room within the bubble itself, but by then it'll probably be scattered with random factions everywhere, all the superpowers mixed together.

 

[Mersozz]

I'm most interested in the effect that teleporting factions will have. I mean, for gameplay purposes, it barely matters. But it's a pretty seismic shift for BGS players for moving a faction across the bubble to go from the work of months and years to instantaneous. Used to be a long term goal for bragging rights, will people keep caring once this becomes normal?

Also it'll be completely impossible to suppress a faction. Things like Sirius Business and Wych Hunt can no longer happen, because a faction could be reduced to nothing and then pop up elsewhere with no way to stop it. I think that's a bit of a shame.

Overall, I wonder if it'll lead to the bubble becoming even more homogenous if any faction can go anywhere. Eventually we'll run out of room within the bubble itself, but by then it'll probably be scattered with random factions everywhere, all the superpowers mixed together.

It’s only been a couple days but if you look on INARA you will see some factions (notably on the fringe of the bubble) have exploded in size. I saw one faction with 60 new systems.

 

[Greasetrap42]

Blocking someone else from building a system outside of the Bubble isn't possible because anyone can use the colonization contact in any colony to claim a star system out there.

And there are so many of them.

In the area I chose there is a shell of claimed systems on the very edge of the bubble. Almost all the remaining systems are useless. I searched for several hours to find a reasonably nice system on the very edge of the bubble. They have 4 weeks to hold these locations, and then maybe they can renew the claims for another 4 weeks? Is this to hold systems for player groups, Or block other players from expanding in the area? Or maybe its just random chance?

I don't know if this is typical all around the outer surface of the bubble.