A Fleet Carrier is a great help in moving large amounts of cargo around, so go for it!
Elite Dangerous | System Colonisation Beta Details & Feedback
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didn't say fdev having been doing good or not.
i said the things that have happened in the past that were bad for the game were from things they did, not people buying accounts or gold or whatever you think is going on.
so this concern over them is rooted in nothing tangible. this isn't WoW. what have these line cutters done in elite? because i guarantee you that they've been doing it for most of the game's history. we saw the sites doing it back when horizons dropped
Landing on high G planets has taught me how to faceplant into a planet with style. It takes a lot of skill to blow up your ship gracefully.Landing on a 10G? ok sure
O7
Why isn't there a way to transfer items from the carrier to CS? Even if it took 24 hours, it should still be possible. Constantly jumping and docking between the supply station, carrier, and SC is so boring that I'm considering stopping playing until the next update... hopefully with less grinding.
Indeed. Looks like pure malice.
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How I whould implement colonization process.
To colonize a system we need:
Pilots may save money and significantly speedup colonization by doing these tasks themselves.
Also, the higher security level (more pirate ships intercepted and destroyed) - the lower price for materials subcontruct delivery.
Cheepest and fastest way to colonize systems - cooperation of pilots. Some pilots makes hunt pirates, some pilots deliver goods, some pilots deliver inspection passengers, some pilots deliver documentation about building process and so on.
In this way we'd have all kinds of activities (exploration, data delivery, passengers, cargo hauling, bounty hunting), each of them can be done by pilots or bought for money, colonization by a group of pilots will allow to make process significantly cheaper and faster.
Instead, we have endless hauling. Pity.
To colonize a system we need:
- complete fresh scan of the system, all planets, with complete body scans (exploration)
- prepare documentation and information delivery (a few routes with data delivery)
- place colonization beacon and wait for colonization ship/fleet carrier
- 1-st stage - deliver metals (steel, titanium, etc) to colonization ship (hauling)
- keep security level at appropriate level (intercept and fight pirates)
- inspections visiting, i.e. pick up passenges and visit construction, scan it making sure 1-st stage is complete
- 2-nd stage - deliver water, oxygen, etc
- maybe some ore mining for materials that are not sold at stations
- keep security level at appropriate level (intercept and fight pirates)
- inspections visiting, i.e. pick up passenges and visit construction, scan it making sure 2-nd stage is complete
- 3-rd stage - deliver computers, food, consumer goods, etc
- keep security level at appropriate level (intercept and fight pirates)
- inspections visiting, i.e. pick up passenges and visit construction, scan it making sure 3-rd stage is complete
- deliver final documentation/data to different location to register new station and station services
Pilots may save money and significantly speedup colonization by doing these tasks themselves.
Also, the higher security level (more pirate ships intercepted and destroyed) - the lower price for materials subcontruct delivery.
Cheepest and fastest way to colonize systems - cooperation of pilots. Some pilots makes hunt pirates, some pilots deliver goods, some pilots deliver inspection passengers, some pilots deliver documentation about building process and so on.
In this way we'd have all kinds of activities (exploration, data delivery, passengers, cargo hauling, bounty hunting), each of them can be done by pilots or bought for money, colonization by a group of pilots will allow to make process significantly cheaper and faster.
Instead, we have endless hauling. Pity.
Do you have some construction going on in your system?
Not any i know of.
What i managed to understand: you need to purchase a permit (25mil cr) adn you get probe.
I would like to revise my feedback.
Creating my first facility was a repetitive boring chore which seemed to have no purpose other than to create a facility identical to 1000s already in the game. It seemed like a complete waste of time. AND I had also assumed this was the tip of the horrible iceberg. Because I had chosen the smaller Science Outpost... and from what I knew from the game... it only gets worse from here! Waaaay worse.
But then I found info on the internet that made me realize that there are lots of other facilities that can be built. And they are so much easier! And I figured out how the tiers worked, and how I should strategically choose the facilities I build. But this info was NOT readily available in game. Certainly not in an easy to access format so a player could understand the concepts. At the very least Frontier could have posted important information on their own site. Or on the forums.
This single spreadsheet is the ultimate explanation of system colonization.
Colonization Summary Spreadsheet
(Many thanks to the author)
With this information, and revisiting the Colonization, I like this update far far more. I already made another facility, and working on my 3rd.
My Conclusions:
1) I like this update. Its pretty good.
2) Frontier really needs to learn how to present information to the players. The update is great, the information provided was ridiculously basic and not suitable for ensuring the player understands why they are making a base and what the next steps will be. Overall, what the scope is, and what will be available to the player. And ensuring the player can make reasonably informed decisions and not waste dozens of hours because appropriate information was not provided.
I’ve been playing since the start, and even with the issues, this is the most significant and enjoyable addition the game has made in it’s entire history, and it’s just a starting point. The gameplay it will set up for me, especially when vanguards arrive is everything I want. It’s taught me to stay using in-game information too. Using outside resources only limits you for sourcing goods, and everything you need to find almost anything is hinted at in game, or worth the personal discovery.
Has anyone experienced this very troubling bug - not sure if it's all messed up now but I am in the process of getting materials for my system and it's been going well for the last few days. I only have a few items left before I take my FC back to the system to do the final unloading. Every now and then, I have a look at my system through the system map and to my shock/surprise, my system is showing less planets/stars than there were previously!!!
Have they disappeared for good? - is this a known bug? I'm hoping its just a glitch as everything has been fine until about an hour ago. I have previous screenshots of when the planets/stars were there and I have the comparison now which is literally 1 star and a single planet. Really hope all the time I've spent gathering materials (about 80% now) hasn't been a waste only for the system to glitch and wipe all the planets in the system otherwise this will be a serious problem going forward for others.
Grateful for thoughts all, have you seen this before?
Have they disappeared for good? - is this a known bug? I'm hoping its just a glitch as everything has been fine until about an hour ago. I have previous screenshots of when the planets/stars were there and I have the comparison now which is literally 1 star and a single planet. Really hope all the time I've spent gathering materials (about 80% now) hasn't been a waste only for the system to glitch and wipe all the planets in the system otherwise this will be a serious problem going forward for others.
Grateful for thoughts all, have you seen this before?
I agree there should be more diversity to the porcess than just hauling materials. I guess the time factor is ok, this way I can play with colonising one system for months. But doing so many hauling runs can kill the love for trade even in a space truck lover like me.
I'd alsko like to point out that The main station is often placed at gas giannt and I can't disembark due to high gravity which is very dissapointing.
Also, why there are no missions in the base I've built?
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You are and your client, the faction you got the license from said they wanted the primary station there.
You are not the owner of the system.
It's actually not, but either way, as you said earlier; that's just your personal feelings and they are only relevant to you. o7
I've now run into the "colonization ship doesn't arrive" bug in three different systems, and already got locked out of claiming two of them for a few days because of this. Seriously, what the hell?
For some reason you can't specify where your very first system facility gets built. If it is an orbital facility. After that you can.
Does anybody know if a cmdr gets to specify location if their very first system facility is on a plant surface?
Spot on, apart from you forgot to mention that your client, the faction you bought the construction contract from, have given you carte blanche to build any other facilities in the system you wish.
No, we don't own the system, we just designed it around our clien's brief.