Exo-Biology == Brain Aneurysm

Brieus

Brieus
I swear, exo-biology is ing me off so much I'm gonna have a stroke.
I found a system with 3 moons of the same planet that had 4 bio-signatures each. Bacterium, Tussock, Frutexa and Fungoida.
I spent at least a flingin' flangin' hour flying and/or driving around the first moon and only ever found Tussock. Lots and lots of Tussock. I went back up to orbit and down again in 3 different places that were supposed to have Frutexa and/or Fungoida, nothing but Tussock. I gave up and went to the second moon and found plenty of Tussock. After a half hour I was ready to give up and move on, but I spotted a graphics glitch that turned out to be Frutexa. After another 15 minutes of searching in the area, I finally found the other 2 samples. Went to the third moon, spent another hour looking around and only found Tussock.
There should be a better way of finding things that flying around at random looking with your eyeballs. I don't mind getting out to get samples but they should put something like the wide area scan in the ship and/or SRV.
 

varonica

varonica
Brieus said:
There should be a better way of finding things that flying around at random looking with your eyeballs.
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There is!

Brieus said:
Bacterium, Tussock, Frutexa and Fungoida
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Bacterium, usually flat areas, sandy or flat snow/ice, Tussock, usually flat sandy areas, Frutexa, usually rocky outcrops, Fungoida, depending on types rocky outcrops to mountainous. Know your species preferred habitats, the blue areas only marks conditions like temperature and air pressure etc, each bio has it's preferred sub-environment, sandy, rocky, mountainous, flat, hilly etc. If you look around a flat sandy area and don't see any of what you are looking for, don't keep looking around the flat sandy areas, climb up a bit, look for changes in terrain close enough to be in the blue area and look there. Blue areas do not guarantee the presence of a particular type of biology!

Of course flying around at random is the worst possible way of looking for bio because the bio locations aren't random.
 

Brammmers

Brammmers
When you did the scan of the planet, did you select the bio you were looking for? That helps greatly in understanding where to land.

Then you want to aim for the teal-ish green areas on the scan.

J
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
I so wish the above info would show up on first scan of a salad, together with the info about the minimum range.

We live in the 33rd century with faster than light travel and I need a second screen out of game to have this info at hand 🙄
 

varonica

varonica
Brammmers said:
We'll given how much bio I've done, statistically speaking it's worked for me. Almost every time.

It certainly indicates high probability areas.

J
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No it doesn't, that's the epitome of confirmation of probably bias, if you only look in the teal areas you will only find stuff in the teal areas, you understand how that works right? So if you never check any other areas you can never know whether or not the other areas have the same or even more probability of having the bio.
 

MattG

MattG
I'll also say I have significantly better luck in the teal areas than the other various shades of blue. I've spent a lot of time looking in all shades and taking into account terrain features too and teal wins hands down. Also, on multi-bio planets when you get a couple of bios in a teal area and a couple in the same area but showing as a different shade of blue, I'll invariably not see a hint of those other bios - only the 2 that were showing as teal.
 

AngryAntz

AngryAntz
Personally I find the "not a heatmap" to be borderline useless; you might find something over there somewhere in that million km, but probably not.

Over time and learning where things are most likely to be, I don't really take much notice of it, unless there is only a small spread of a particular bio.

I don't want something that leads me by the nose, but I find the "heatmap" is of limited use.

Maybe the heatmap that isn't a heatmap should be a heatmap.
 

varonica

varonica
MattG said:
I'll also say I have significantly better luck in the teal areas than the other various shades of blue. I've spent a lot of time looking in all shades and taking into account terrain features too and teal wins hands down. Also, on multi-bio planets when you get a couple of bios in a teal area and a couple in the same area but showing as a different shade of blue, I'll invariably not see a hint of those other bios - only the 2 that were showing as teal.
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There's no doubt you will find a lot of stuff in teal areas because a lot of stuff tends to favour flattish ground, which is usually that colour, bacteria, tubus, stratum etc, the most common bios do favour flattish ground, but I spent 4 days looking for a hard to find bio in one of the outer regions and it appeared nowhere on flat teal ground, the entire planet was nearly all that shade, I finally found it when I went to the only area of mountains on the planet, I would never have found it just sticking to the teal areas because it required the mountains. Teal areas are easier to search, but are no help if the bio you are looking for doesn't appear in that particular type of terrain.
 

Brammmers

Brammmers
There will always be outliers. I've had the same.

I've just found the teal areas to be statistically good places to look. Once you don't see any on the scan, then you need to apply experience and luck.

J
 

varonica

varonica
The problem with telling everyone the teal areas are the correct areas is because new players, like the OP, will believe that and only look in the teal areas, then complain that the bios are to hard to find because they never show up. Use the teal area if you will for certain types of bio, but be aware that other types of bio never appear in the teal areas at all. The bio I found in that remote region had never been recorded before in that area, but was to be found on this planet. Without ignoring the "look in the teal areas" but actually going with what logic told me I would never have found it.

Just telling new players to "just look in the teal areas" means they will have frustrating time when it comes to the harder to find bios and will then come here to request a better way to find bios.
 

varonica

varonica
Brammmers said:
There will always be outliers. I've had the same.

I've just found the teal areas to be statistically good places to look. Once you don't see any on the scan, then you need to apply experience and luck.

J
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They aren't outliers, certain bio won't appear in the teal areas, if you just look in the teal areas you won't find them! What has luck to do with it? You are in fact saying that the teal areas mean nothing if you have to use luck, which contradicts everything you have just claimed.
 

Brammmers

Brammmers
Can you give me some examples of the hard to find stuff that lives outside the teal areas (for the benefit of the OP)?

Fungoida are a classic on ammonia planets for me.

J
 

Andrew Gaspurr

Andrew Gaspurr
It's not a heat map or probability map. Frontier have repeatedly clarified that the varying coloration resulting from a scan has nothing to do with an increased or decreased chance of stuff spawning. They are biomes which at this point don't seem to have any function at all than to look deep or light blue.
 

MattG

MattG
Andrew Gaspurr said:
It's not a heat map or probability map. Frontier have repeatedly clarified that the varying coloration resulting from a scan has nothing to do with an increased or decreased chance of stuff spawning.
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Other than some early “it’s not a heatmap anymore” gestations in beta I’ve not read this once so I’d like to see a couple of these repeated clarifications to read up on.

Andrew Gaspurr said:
They are biomes which at this point don't seem to have any function at all than to look deep or light blue.
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This is demonstrably false though. If the shades were biome-related, or related to planetary conditions at all the heatmap wouldn’t change when switching between bios.
 
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