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DLC 19 Speculation
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Yes. I personally wanted a second flamingo, new canine, Rhea etc... I love the fact that PZ has such a big roster now. I know some people want a sequel, though.
I'm glad for more support because to me the only big thing missing from PZ1 is aviaries. And I wish time could move a little slower in game. But, other than that, I prefer they work on PZ1 for now... I understand if it feels like a cash grab but that's the gaming market nowadays... I would say if anything Frontier's generous with the anniversary gifts and free updates.
My thoughts on the 5 so far:
1. Rhea - very pleased. Really needs to be the greater rhea though for me. May not be a very exciting animal but it is a staple in any South america paddock with the tapirs, llamas/alpacas/vicugnas/guanacos and capybaras. Bonus points being another bird.
2. White-Faced Saki - very excited for this guy too (if it is indeed a saki). My preferred pick for a NWM over the less common howlers or spider monkeys. My second choice would’ve been the squirrel monkey. Sexual dimorphism makes this an even more exciting animal too and NWM are very lacking.
3. Bighorn Sheep - I wonder if it’s a generic or whether they’ll go subspecific like many zoos do (which at that point would be a desert bighorn with this pack). I think I’d prefer the latter tbh. I’m indifferent here though. Not a species I particularly wanted and I think given the Americas have a lot of important animals, it’s taking a slot from a more exciting animal in that regard. Really giving (low budget for PZ development so fill up the roster with easy animals). If we’re really going this route I personally would’ve rathered they’d done the Brazilian tapir simply given how common it is in European zoos. It’s also morphologically fairly different from the Baird’s and would’ve paired well with the rhea. I don’t hate the bighorn though and feel it’s inclusion is okay, personally think if we had to have any more goats after the Markhor - it should’ve been the aoudad though.
4. American Flamingo (or Chilean?) - the other half of the ‘full up the roster with clones’ duo. I can see why this is added, the American flamingo been floated as an inclusion since launch and again, I’m not upset by it being added. It’s good to have diversity. However, I think it probably would’ve suited better to be the anniversary animal and the African leopard omitted entirely from the game, it feels a bit cheap for a DLC animal and I think that’s why it has always been floated as an anniversary species by the community. I would’ve preferred to see a white-faced whistling duck here I think. Gives both South America and West Africa some inclusion and is a long-requested duck that’s fairly common in zoos. Of the flamingo choices though a tiny part of me kind of hopes we get the Chilean
5. Coyote - not very happy with this one ngl. We have a lot of canines and even still, I’m open to more. But coyote is probably bottom of that list. There’s a lot of cool canines not yet in the game and many are common in zoos. Having an animal that’s virtually non-existent in captivity outside its native range and more synonymous as a backyard pest within its native range, I would’ve much preferred another animal - especially given the highly competitive options for the Americas. Again, if it’s another clone we need - I’d have rathered the American black bear. Or as another canid - the bush dog. The coyote kind of jumps into the heap of ‘backyard critters’ we have that mostly just make for good ‘roadside’ zoo builds - skunk, raccoon, red fox, armadillo (for NA), red fox, European badger (for EU). I just feel given we have the Arctic wolf, grey wolf, Arctic fox and red fox - the coyote really isn’t that necessary as a 5th ‘generic North American dog…
My bets for 6 and 7 are two of: ring-tailed coati (or possibly white-nosed….), ocelot and/or Patagonian mara.
I think two ver strong picks will boost this pack immensely. However, I think already this pack will go down as a ‘missed opportunity’ given how many competitive picks there are for the Americas which are going to miss out. And to think I thought the Spectacled bear was put in zookeepers to cram the Americas pack with wishlisters.
My ideal roster would’ve been:
1. Ocelot
2. Greater Rhea
3. Patagonian Mara
4. Ring-Tailed Coati
5. White-Faced Saki
6. Black-Capped Squirrel Monkey
7. Bush Dog/Southern Tamandua or Azara’s Agouti…
1. Rhea - very pleased. Really needs to be the greater rhea though for me. May not be a very exciting animal but it is a staple in any South america paddock with the tapirs, llamas/alpacas/vicugnas/guanacos and capybaras. Bonus points being another bird.
2. White-Faced Saki - very excited for this guy too (if it is indeed a saki). My preferred pick for a NWM over the less common howlers or spider monkeys. My second choice would’ve been the squirrel monkey. Sexual dimorphism makes this an even more exciting animal too and NWM are very lacking.
3. Bighorn Sheep - I wonder if it’s a generic or whether they’ll go subspecific like many zoos do (which at that point would be a desert bighorn with this pack). I think I’d prefer the latter tbh. I’m indifferent here though. Not a species I particularly wanted and I think given the Americas have a lot of important animals, it’s taking a slot from a more exciting animal in that regard. Really giving (low budget for PZ development so fill up the roster with easy animals). If we’re really going this route I personally would’ve rathered they’d done the Brazilian tapir simply given how common it is in European zoos. It’s also morphologically fairly different from the Baird’s and would’ve paired well with the rhea. I don’t hate the bighorn though and feel it’s inclusion is okay, personally think if we had to have any more goats after the Markhor - it should’ve been the aoudad though.
4. American Flamingo (or Chilean?) - the other half of the ‘full up the roster with clones’ duo. I can see why this is added, the American flamingo been floated as an inclusion since launch and again, I’m not upset by it being added. It’s good to have diversity. However, I think it probably would’ve suited better to be the anniversary animal and the African leopard omitted entirely from the game, it feels a bit cheap for a DLC animal and I think that’s why it has always been floated as an anniversary species by the community. I would’ve preferred to see a white-faced whistling duck here I think. Gives both South America and West Africa some inclusion and is a long-requested duck that’s fairly common in zoos. Of the flamingo choices though a tiny part of me kind of hopes we get the Chilean
5. Coyote - not very happy with this one ngl. We have a lot of canines and even still, I’m open to more. But coyote is probably bottom of that list. There’s a lot of cool canines not yet in the game and many are common in zoos. Having an animal that’s virtually non-existent in captivity outside its native range and more synonymous as a backyard pest within its native range, I would’ve much preferred another animal - especially given the highly competitive options for the Americas. Again, if it’s another clone we need - I’d have rathered the American black bear. Or as another canid - the bush dog. The coyote kind of jumps into the heap of ‘backyard critters’ we have that mostly just make for good ‘roadside’ zoo builds - skunk, raccoon, red fox, armadillo (for NA), red fox, European badger (for EU). I just feel given we have the Arctic wolf, grey wolf, Arctic fox and red fox - the coyote really isn’t that necessary as a 5th ‘generic North American dog…
My bets for 6 and 7 are two of: ring-tailed coati (or possibly white-nosed….), ocelot and/or Patagonian mara.
I think two ver strong picks will boost this pack immensely. However, I think already this pack will go down as a ‘missed opportunity’ given how many competitive picks there are for the Americas which are going to miss out. And to think I thought the Spectacled bear was put in zookeepers to cram the Americas pack with wishlisters.
My ideal roster would’ve been:
1. Ocelot
2. Greater Rhea
3. Patagonian Mara
4. Ring-Tailed Coati
5. White-Faced Saki
6. Black-Capped Squirrel Monkey
7. Bush Dog/Southern Tamandua or Azara’s Agouti…
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Well that's not it, is it? We don't know what the rest of the line up is yet. We've all been screaming for a LatAm pack and it looks like we're getting a banger of a pack. It might not be everyone's fave, it never will be, but this time it is making a LOT of people very happy, so maybe be glad about that?
Saki is an ace surprise, I'm really hyped about that if it is indeed a saki.
Yes, and I accept you're opinion totally. I'd rather get a sequel though as it can address the problem of no aviaries and can bring an entire remake to base game animals.
Looking at what's been revealed so far... I'm gonna have to say Ocelot and Black Bear... ... ...this does not look like a high effort production...
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A sequel could be better. I just have fear that I wouldn't see personal faves represented (e.g. Striped Hyena or Dhole or Dall Sheep).
Okay so
Coyote, Rhea, Bighorn Sheep, Saki and American Flamingo huh?
Well i got my prefered monkey so win for me but man what a let down otherwise
Guess its 2 birds and 1 monkey though with a filler ungulate and carnivore so so far my bet is spot on!
Yay!
Coyote, Rhea, Bighorn Sheep, Saki and American Flamingo huh?
Well i got my prefered monkey so win for me but man what a let down otherwise
Guess its 2 birds and 1 monkey though with a filler ungulate and carnivore so so far my bet is spot on!
Yay!
Pack better have a mara and coati to make up for it
Its already my favorite pack of all time... I do agree Mara and Coati would make it better though!
the complete and utter dichotomy between every screaming clone pack and everyone else screaming best pack ever has me feeling whiplash. Seriously people need to realise that we are at the point where a majority of animals will be similar to something we already have and that sometimes animals that are clones are still reasonable additons
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When you see what they did with their new game released last year...
You'll havr a minimal effort sequel...
Sequel won't come out for 5 years anyways, with PlanCo 2 being thw highlight
No, aviaries or aquariums will be added as there won't be a reason to buy that sequel. They also know the value of Planet Zoo and will probably be able to make a banger sequel.
Perhaps, but even with "clones" the choices where still garbage
If we need to clone a carnivoran, why the coyote and not the ocelot?
If we need to clone an ungulate, why is it the big horn sheep of all things? Like literally its a brown dall sheep, which is something that allready exists
And if we cant all agree that the american flamingo is an disppoitinting choice between other waders like roseate spoonbill and scarlet ibis then i guess we cant agree
And the biggest question of all:
Why didnt they pad the pack by cloning the capuchin?
Even a tufted capuchin would be better then a coyote or bighorn sheep at any day
If they were to stop PlanZoo, they will 100% focus on it mostly, they can't lose its most valuable asset
I'm sooo happy with this DLC! I hope the last two slots are for the mara and the coati but I would be as satisfied with the ABB or the ocelot!
They let PlanCo alone for a while, though. I doubt they'd be too worried to leave PlanZo alone for a few years, when that time comes
Honestly, ocelot would probably be similar to coyote: why another cat, we just got 1? Why a mini jaguar? Cats are biased!
That kinda stuff
for australians thats wombat, tasmanian devils, and kangaroos its a matter of perspective roadkill animals are still worthy additions just not for every region.
whats even weirder is the only time we have gotten a large ratite is with a canine
Exactly... even among clones, some are more unique than others... and some of these clones are definitely not more unique...