Nope, you should be fine if you have more free slots there.
How do just playing catch-up on here where is the info on planets being related to economy type have been scouring and can't find it cheers and o7
How do where is this info that the planet affects the facility and is there any info on this April 3rd change haven't been able to find anything about it, could be me suffering from tunnel vision due to all the hauling lolHi Paul,
Thanks a lot for the update.
I went live with a new Primary Port last night/early hours of this morning, and it was a Colony Commercial Outpost around an Ice Planet.
What I got was an Industrial Outpost
I did NOT want an Industrial Outpost!!
Now, I have nothing against Industrial Outposts, indeed I quite like them, but if I had wanted an Industrial Outpost, I would have picked one as the Primary Port, not a Colony
My goal was to give myself lots of flexibility to develop the planet and its orbital slots.
Are there any plans to fix this sort of thing?
I am quite aware we are still in beta!
If Ice Planets only produce Industrial Ports, there are going to be millions of Industrial Outposts everywhere!!
While I think the idea of the planet affecting the economy of the orbital port makes some sense, it should not overpower things and force all ports around that type of planet into a single paradigm.
If you think about it, ELW worlds should possibly have some influence on the orbiting economy, especially as the ELW word has no planetary slots at all.
However, the same logic should not apply to Ice Planets causing all orbiting stations to be Industrial (see above) because you should be able to build Industrial Outposts and Planetary Settlements any where, just as you can in real life.
Ditto for Refineries. They should not be predicated on a particular planetary type.
Extraction economies make sense based upon the planet as they need the raw materials from that planet.
However, you can honestly build a Refinery or Industry facility anywhere on Earth as long as you do not mind shipping the raw materials there that it depends on.
The same should hold true in ED.
I have colonised several nice systems recently, but I am holding off on developing them until I know how all this works, and I can develop new systems with confidence.
My first system is a bit of a disaster, as some facilities work fine, while others, such as the Planetary Outpost, do nothing even after several weeks.
This is very frustrating, and I am sure I am not alone.
In another system, I have one outpost, the Primary Port, and I had to put it around the Earth Like World (ELW), which filled the only slot available. It is part of a binary pair of planets.
I put a Colony there and it is still there. I was hoping the planet might affect it and turn it into an Agriculture Outpost. There is no additional slot around that planet, but the neighbouring binary planet also has a single orbital slot.
Does the binary planet slot affect its neighbour?
Can I put a Space Farm there to turn the colony outpost in the neighbouring ELW into an Agriculture outpost?
Or is that a waste of my time?
The April 3rd change implied that my ELW would affect the orbiting colony outpost, or have I missed the boat and I am stuck because the ELW only has one slot and I have been forced to fill it with the Primary Port, and the 3rd April change only takes affect once ANOTHER change is made to that slot?
Sorry for all the questions, but I, like so many, have put a LOT of effort into Trailblazers, and in many ways it is great, but it is really hard to work in an information vacuum and see your efforts turn to dust.
Thanks a lot for your work, but I would really like to see the following:
1. Allow binary planets to be treated as single economic slot, not two economic slots
2. Reverse or severely reduce the effect of the 3rd April change to give player-architects agency to shape their solar systems slot by slot rather than letting planet type decide everything
3. Provide more ingame documentation, with actual examples, of how star system economies can be developed after the primary port is created
4. Document how space and ground installations and hubs interact and shape both the slot economy and the star system economy
5. Provide a means for the architect to adjust and evolve orbital economies around Non-Landable planets
6. Give players the ability to select the Primary Port location for the first station
7. Give players the ability to have a planet-based Primary Port, such as you see enroute to Colonia
8. Increased the colonisation limit from 15 LY to say 25-30 LY. The 15 LY limit seems arbitrary and unrealistic in the context of the game where only tiny ships have a jump range of less than 15 LY
Thanks for reading this, sorry it is so long!!
So after I finally built biggest surface port in Hyades Sector ST-I b9-0 I wish to update my feedback.
Anything not in the Dev posts is just our speculation and inferences based on what we think we see happening in the colonies.
Congratulations on finishing it!Not in my experience.
space ports / small and medium ....most are bio waste /fruit and veg / water ..... while the other comm's are to sell onlyI'm sure everyone that spent hours hauling cargo to build stations to find out which planets now give which economies will be delighted to know it was a complete waste of time and effort, all their data is useless because it's based on a 'mistake' that someone at FDev made and it's now been rolled back.
- or accept a little knowledge save a LOT of wasted time.Is it just me or this sound too much like a lab rat experienceI'm sure everyone that spent hours hauling cargo to build stations to find out which planets now give which economies will be delighted to know it was a complete waste of time and effort, all their data is useless because it's based on a 'mistake' that someone at FDev made and it's now been rolled back.
So last week we sort of understand how this feature worked - badly - with lots of broken stations producing nothing but biowaste.
Then Fdev silently updated something at the back end and then we have a new set of rules that sort of made sense but broke some builds that commanders were doing ( based on the previous rules ).
Now we are back as before, except every station build from last Thursday through to yesterday? has different rules applied to it - which may or may not get rolled back at some point in the next 3-4 weeks ?
It's beta - we suppose to 'test' this feature - but we have no idea what we are testing because we have no documentation on what is suppose to happen - so how can tell if broken by design or broken because of a bug ?
So for me it's fundamental to know 'how it's suppose to work' to know how to test it and what to report back as broken.
@Gwynfor you are welcome to not understand anything and keep building stations that only give you biowaste
If it was a waste of time, you are doing it wrong! Why would do such a thing, if you do not like it?
Who said, that the players should understand the inner workings? Do you get all the data? I do not. FDev on the other hand got (most likely more than expected) data from our efforts and it seems not all was expected (no wonder, alone the effect on the BGS should be really nice. But again, I do not have the data. I hope someday a FDev employee will write it down, should be fun to read).
You should use an educated guess and not everything that works as intended is flawless.
I got three systems, but at the moment I work only on one and the stations got a working market. But I am not in a hurry, I simply enjoy the hauling.@Gwynfor you are welcome to not understand anything and keep building stations that only give you biowaste
The Space City Hall might be the answer...
That is how things works normally, right? Building architects just takes educated guesses, because we do not know everything in the universe? Or could it be that they actually studied reading materials of already known processes?
Just don't engage. There are a contingent of people that will defend everything done and nothing you say, no point you make will change their mind.
I get that. But a character flaw of mine to not shut up when I should.
The thing is, even with an overall planetary type we already know the composition of any planet. Why not have any type designation modified by what's actually there? I've got a system of little icy jobs, but one is 20% metal - so some form of extraction should be possible, although it would be far less efficient/productive than on a HMC planet. Any industrial economy would rely on either local production or imports for raw materials - it doesn't make sense to tie it to a planet type, unless this has been done to give icy planets a "purpose" they wouldn't otherwise have. I can understand WW attracting tourism but that's the point - there should be a reason for linking the two. Why go planetside to an icy rock - with all the gravity well downsides that entails - to manufacture goods when you could do it in orbit?
). Still 3 commodities, but now I have mineral extractors instead of slaves. The faction have not changed (and is in no particular status).
