Ranking the areas still requiring animals
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I totally agree. I think some key species are missing. Imo, 2 more species are needed to truly feel like China is green (Muntjac or Père David's Deer + a monkey like a Langur or the GSNM). For Japan, 1 more species would be needed like the Tanuki, the Sika Deer or the Japanese Serow.
Thank you. You’re reading my mind
I also think all (referring to the blue areas) of NA shouldn’t be blue, we are still missing the ABB which practically every small zoo has and a bird. A turkey, duck, roadrunner, burrowing owl, sandhill crane or something like that would do wonders! To be considered blue I think we need 3-5 more species which the following could easily do:
•ABB- Most essential species left, it’s like our icon
•Elk- We need a deer, these could be pretty neat
•White Tailed Deer- Same as elk
•Wild Turkey- Found almost everywhere, we need a bird
•Duck- Any would work, same as turkey
•Roadrunner- Small desert bird, fun to see
•Burrowing Owl- same as roadrunner
•Sandhill Crane- Unique story, same as Turkey
•North American River Otter- Cute, very common and we need a temperate otter
•North American Porcupine- Cute, somewhat common and could be considered essential
• Bobcat- Unique to lynx, it’s a cat and pretty well known
•ABB- Most essential species left, it’s like our icon
•Elk- We need a deer, these could be pretty neat
•White Tailed Deer- Same as elk
•Wild Turkey- Found almost everywhere, we need a bird
•Duck- Any would work, same as turkey
•Roadrunner- Small desert bird, fun to see
•Burrowing Owl- same as roadrunner
•Sandhill Crane- Unique story, same as Turkey
•North American River Otter- Cute, very common and we need a temperate otter
•North American Porcupine- Cute, somewhat common and could be considered essential
• Bobcat- Unique to lynx, it’s a cat and pretty well known
here is the updated distribution of all ingame animals
side note coyotes are considered south american by the game its one of the weird cases where the zoopedia doesnt say it but filters it that way anyways and the foliage aligns with south and north america.
here is a bonus biome table to
| continent | exhibit | habitat | total |
| Africa | 7 | 64 | 71 |
| Europe | 6 | 25 | 31 |
| Asia | 9 | 61 | 70 |
| North America | 14 | 35 | 49 |
| South America | 16 | 29 | 45 |
| Oceania | 6 | 21 | 27 |
side note coyotes are considered south american by the game its one of the weird cases where the zoopedia doesnt say it but filters it that way anyways and the foliage aligns with south and north america.
here is a bonus biome table to
| biome | exhibit | habitat | total |
| tropical | 24 | 72 | 96 |
| temperate | 12 | 68 | 80 |
| aquatic | 6 | 36 | 42 |
| grassland | 14 | 94 | 108 |
| taiga | 2 | 45 | 47 |
| desert | 9 | 38 | 47 |
| tundra | 1 | 19 | 20 |
The devs consider Central America to be part of South America, even if it doesn't check out geographically.
I got to be honest, I really disagree with that statement. I think the only thing holding back NA at this point is only a tiny sliver of the continent has one bird. Even then, North America finally has atleast one single bird species after 5 years in development. I think the lack of another bird species, like a duck or turkey or crane, hurts NA more than the lack of a ABB.
But also a place being “blue” doesn’t mean it isn’t missing key species. It just means you have loads and loads of options. Which we do.
While a major animal for North American Zoos (and my own bias being taken into account) in terms of PZ and its gameplay I don’t think the ABB would add as much to North America as another bird. NA has two bears in the polar bear and the grizzly, while right now it only has the American Flamingo for the tip of Florida, and Mexico. A wild turkey, wood duck, burrowing owl, roadrunner, Sandhill crane, would all help elevate NA further.
However, lack of ABB and a second bird species aside, it is still super well represented. Look what you can build for:
- Everglades, with the American alligator, Cougar, Beaver, American Flamingo, etc.
- Coastal: with the polar bear, sea lion, and grey seal.
- Yellowstone: with the grizzly, grey wolf, bison, moose, pronghorn, and prairie dog.
- American desert: ocelot, peccary, cougar, bighorn sheep, coyote.
- Local wildlife: fox, skunk, raccoon.
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Don't worry, they'll get there soon enough:
I agree the main thing missing from NA are birds. At the very least the turkey.
Mandarin also.
Man east asia pack with mandarin and golden pheasant would be peak
We know that is not what we will end up getting lol
East Asia animal pack by Frontier. Shows cover srt teaser with yak as cover. Teases pere David deer or Muntjac (or both), if they are generous the GSNM. We speculate with great confidence that the remaining animals are likely mandarín duck and Golden pheasant. We end up with chinese Alligator, chinese goral, japanese serow and tanuki.
I honestly would find this pack awesome even without the birds. Père David's Deer, Muntjac, GSNM, Tanuki and Japanese Serow are all in my top 50 wishlist. Mandarin Duck is there too. I wouldn't even complain about the alligator if those 6 were in the pack even if I would prefer a Tibetan Fox or a Langur.
I wouldn't mind a chinese Alligator if it comes along with the duck, the pheasant and the monkey. I just don't want another ungulate fest. Muntjac or pere David deer are fine (i actually want muntjacs). But i would be very dissapointed if we get an Asia Pack and no pheasant is in it. Also the yellow throated marten is a much more interesting pick than the tanuki (which i actively don't want in this game therefore we are probably getting it at some point)
East Asia Animal pack
Muntjac
Mandarin Duck
Golden Pheasant
GSNM
Tanuki
Yellow Throated Marten/ Chinese Alligator/ Sea Otter
Japanese Serow/ Pere Davids Deer/ Yak
If Ex: Chinese/ Japanese Giant Salamander
If Scenery: add some more tools for making a Japanese Zen Garden and lots of foliage
Muntjac
Mandarin Duck
Golden Pheasant
GSNM
Tanuki
Yellow Throated Marten/ Chinese Alligator/ Sea Otter
Japanese Serow/ Pere Davids Deer/ Yak
If Ex: Chinese/ Japanese Giant Salamander
If Scenery: add some more tools for making a Japanese Zen Garden and lots of foliage
We are lacking deers very much imo. The only ungulate group that is still underrepresented. So for me it would be totally fine to get a pack with two deer species (or more but let's be realistic). And if we are talking about general Asia Indian antelopes are also missing. So, let's say we got another general Asian pack with two deers (Pere David's deer and Chinese muntjac are the best options imo) and a blackbuck, I would totally love this.
But I see your point, another Arid Animal Pack situation wouldn't be ideal.
Sure the right selection of ungulates would go a long way but this is Frontier. We just got a Big horned sheep and a coyote in what is essentially a LATAM pack leaving out things like the coati or the mara. So i don't expect to get the ungulates we want.
Seriously, just end the whining, this is a company which doesn’t have the resources to properly make a rhea. Would you rather get a half baked Mara and Coati and wondrous looking coyotes and bighorn, both of which are phenomenal additions to compare with their counterparts.
Frontier clearly had enough resources to pour into the bush dog, they absolutely could have made a proper rhea