Haulers, I Need You - Someone Load My Carrier Please

[ZULU OSCAR OSCAR LIMA]

OK, so, I have a Carrier, currently sitting in Orgen.
I left it there over night, and made sure it was set to open.
I set a bunch of the Commodities to 300% Profit Margins, and thought, surely, this would draw some attention.
I get back online, and find, not a single drop has been made... Not one.

Now, I don't have Billions and Billions to throw away, but surely, 300% above the Galactic Average is high enough, right?
It's 16 Light Seconds from the Supply Ship, so it's fast income.
Sure, not every Commodity has been set that high, but several of them have, with one notable exception.

Why am I not loading it myself, because I'm busy in another System, trying to feed a Colony Resources.
I own one Carrier, and it needs someone to fill it up while I'm away.
So, if there are any Fresh Players looking for some extra easy Credits, or some Older Players who are just looking for something to do, I need you.
It needs CMM Composite for a start, which, because of my Connection Issues, landing on Planets is an issue.
Paying well above the average is painful to my wallet, but, I'm offering as many Credits as what I can afford right now, as time is working against me.



Location:
Orgen
UNSS Akuma No Sakura

 

[Yuri John]

To low for me. I want 10.000% above the galactic average. Hehe...

 

[PilotB]

45-100k/t players don't care for % above galactic average for cheap goods like colonisation supplies. You have to pay better than what they can get from good trades not what they can get from trading the low value stuff you want. The higher you set the profit the faster you're likely to be loaded but anything under 45k/t is unlikely to be picked up in the current market.

 

[oblivionmanman 2476]

they say if you want a job done do it youreself,most cmdrs are busy loading there own stuff.

 

[Yuri John]

they say if you want a job done do it youreself,most cmdrs are busy loading there own stuff.

Not really. The new CG is to sweet with the new weapon rewards.

 

[ZULU OSCAR OSCAR LIMA]

45-100k/t players don't care for % above galactic average for cheap goods like colonisation supplies. You have to pay better than what they can get from good trades not what they can get from trading the low value stuff you want. The higher you set the profit the faster you're likely to be loaded but anything under 45k/t is unlikely to be picked up in the current market.

I would ask where in the Galaxy people are getting these 45K-100K per Ton from.
Seriously, who is insane enough to be paying that, seriously, I could use the pay-day.
Is the Economy of the Game seriously that broken by this point?

At Rates like those, it's just a Bubble waiting to burst.
Reminds me of the Housing Bubble, or the .com Bubble...
Serious note though, someone could completely Undercut the entire Market at that rate.

 

[PilotB]

Serious note though, someone could completely Undercut the entire Market at that rate.

It's a flooded market. Supply of haulers is low demand is up and a lot of people have untold billions. Even before colonisation if you were offering less than 20k/t loading you was a waste of time as it's easy to find a point to point trade that pays 20-40k/t. That used to leave 20k for the loader and 20k for the unloader ontop of cost. Now days unloading doesn't pay but you still need to exceed the profit those easy NPC trades can give so it's never based on the price of the goods you are moving just the profit per ton moved compared to other options.

In the early days of colonisation people were paying upwards of 300k/t for CMM. 45k is far more reasonable though a quick check seems to show that at least for the public buy orders prices have dropped to a mere 20-25k/t again. Though those ones haven't been filled so they might not be meeting market rates to get filled. Things might be blowing over and going back to preblazer prices.

 

[Darrack]

because of my Connection Issues, landing on Planets is an issue

Doesn't the supply ship there supply those?
I will take a wild stab in the dark that other carriers may be offering higher rewards, time is money and folks will always look for the best profit.

O7

 

[ZULU OSCAR OSCAR LIMA]

Doesn't the supply ship there supply those?
I will take a wild stab in the dark that other carriers may be offering higher rewards, time is money and folks will always look for the best profit.

O7

I've put my Carrier within 90 seconds (+Whatever it takes to Dock on each end) of Travel time of the Trailblazer Carrier.
Yet, no takers.
As for NPC Trade Routes, the best I can find myself is a 10,000,000 Profit Route, and that's in Silver/Gold.
However, that is between two Systems, which, takes time, and quite an amount of it too.
Surely, it's not so much amount Amount per Drop, but Amount per Hour of Drops.
More Drops per Hour, means more Credits per Hour.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

More Drops per Hour, means more Credits per Hour.

Sure. So let's say a T-9 or Cutter with ~800t of cargo capacity, making 10 trips an hour because you've parked close by. That's 8000t an hour, so if you only pay 10k/tonne the total earning rate is 80M/hour.

That's not bad but it's nowhere near the highest earning rate in game either - there are individual missions paying 50 million each which can be done in a single one-jump round trip, for example. Or a good exobio run can get you 80M per first discovered Stratum, and with the right search pattern you can get more than one of them an hour, too.

So you probably need to be offering 30k/tonne even for that sort of favourable situation - because you've also got travel time to consider: someone can be doing those missions at a wide range of systems in the bubble, but to haul your cargo they have to go to one specific place.

Serious note though, someone could completely Undercut the entire Market at that rate.

They could, but that's unlikely to happen right now. (Case in point, you're saying "someone could", rather than advertising your actual 20k/tonne hauling service)

At the moment, there's an oversupply of people willing to do the paying, and an undersupply of people willing to do the hauling. That's the sort of thing where you need to offer above the market rate if you want things to happen.

If there were few people wanting things hauled, and lots of people wanting to haul them, then the price would come down (though "what you can get in an hour for missions/exobio/etc" would still set a fairly effective floor on it)

 

[Exil]

I would ask where in the Galaxy people are getting these 45K-100K per Ton from.
Seriously, who is insane enough to be paying that, seriously, I could use the pay-day.

F.R.E.I.G.H.T is just one example, commanders with billions after years of playing come to them, they pay 50k/t to load and another 50k/t to unload, a lot of these haulers then make a lot of money and they in turn hire the same people they worked with to load + unload for them as well.

The market can't be undercut because people expect a minimum of 30k/t now to do this type of work, or at least you can undercut if you have a squadron of at least 50 members willing to haul for less and take all the market from the ones doing 30k+/t

 

[Sevenperry]

Try going to an unpopular location and offering what some want on sale on your carrier……good luck.

 

[cmdr remo_d]

I have no problem getting my carriers filled at 30K profit by adverts on reddit, r/elitetraders and r/elitecarriers.

Be docked at a body sharing the orbit with a L orbital at a system near the center of the bubble.