I won. Two shiny modules and a pocket full of cash.Did we win?.
COMPLETED CG Delaine Targets Imperial Forces in Beta-3 Tucani (Combat)
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320 million is definitely a win as far as I'm concerned.
Same for me! Ahah
let's wait for the next one!And if it goes against the Empire again, I'll happily support you filthy pirates again. If the pay is right.Same for me! Ahah
(Oh no, did I just role play? Damn.)
Next CG should be Fed - Winters against Kevin Costner. Modules to win: Overcharged High Capacity Pacifiers and Double Overcharged Water Pistols.
It’s more likely to be one with the remaining four(?) powers that haven't had one yet* - who against who? That I’m not sure on but Frontier probably have that more or less planned out already.
*If you don’t count the technically non-competitive data/cargo delivery CG some time last year for Utopia in the context of
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Against Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris would be more challenging. Well, maybe just Chuck.
LYR vs Antal and Torval vs Duval would have obvious rivalries to play on, but also it's boringly obvious which side wins both.
LYR vs Duval and Antal vs Torval might need a few seconds more work to explain the CGs but we would probably need to wait an hour after it started to be confident who was going to win.
Aisling starts making speeches linking Imperial slavery and Sirius style capitalism, causing unrest in a system on their border due to practices with forcing people into debt to become Imperial slaves. From LYR's side, Aisling is attempting to destabilise peaceful systems and promote unnecessary civil wars in the region for her own gain.
SImilar to a previous CG, Utopian technology is found in the hands of Torval agents in a bid to strengthen her position in an uncontrolled system system, leading to calls for Antal to stop hoarding technology that could benefit everyone. Antal's position is that if the system simply joins his commune or whatever its called, they'd have access to that technology by default.
Assuming these all have systems in range of each other to fight over though.
That doesn't matter, as this CG demonstrates.
Beta-3 Tucani is the closest ALD system to any Delaine system - Daramo, 42.1 LY away.
As a result of the promotion of Beta-3 Tucani to Stronghold as a side-effect of holding a two-week CG in the system, B3T and Delaine's LTT 9455 now can both potentially acquire the LP 988-175 system, a binary system with no planets which was itself entirely uninhabited until early May, and now contains a single outpost.
So ALD and Delaine didn't have a border before, and now after the CG is over only have the smallest possible non-zero border. (And even that might disappear again if Archer or Patreus who are more obviously in range of LP 988-175 capture it instead)
...and it was already on the border of ALD territory. Almost as if the narrative was written from the start anyway. A system that would not be felt as a loss to Delaine, we would have had no hope of holding on to had we won by some miracle (current issues around undermining aside) because of the location and I really don't think almost god handing any group a stronghold system they couldn't have reached otherwise at that point really helps powerplay.
Seems more like the case that FDev acknowledge these are going to be one sided affairs and are limiting the damage to the intended loser.
Anyway, that's probably enough tin foil hattery for the day, but after this I do have the sneaking suspicion that the answer to who future match ups will be will be dictated by whatever is going to fulfill their storyline and not a lot else.
Ah, but the system didn't become a Stronghold because ALD won the CG - none of the Power CGs have touched Powerplay states directly at all - the system became a Stronghold because it was an ALD Exploited system when the CG started, and sticking a huge number of mixed-Power players in a system is almost always massively beneficial to the occupying Power.
If it had been a Delaine system already, because Undermining is so weak (and not related to any of the actual CG activities) there's a good chance it would at least have been promoted to Fortified by the end of the two weeks.
(Similarly despite Kaine losing the previous CG, the Kaine Exploited system of Winiama which Mahon was holding his CG in had become Fortified by the end of the fortnight despite there being basically no reason for Kaine pledges to go there at all, and close enough to a Stronghold that it got there the following week even without the CG)
The only one which I could possibly imagine as a slight deviation from that is the Kaine vs Mahon CG where it came to it really being less of a “Will Kaine win” and more “How much support does the obvious underdog - both in the game terms and lore side of political backing in the Alliance - manage to drum up”. And stick it further to Sirius in an indirect way.
I’d like to think those of us who supported Kaine did a reasonable job of it.
… but yes, when Frontier create matchups like this they probably do have a good idea of who will realistically win and do it with their storyline in mind. Can’t imagine much of another reason why they had the two hotheads of the galaxy/human space of it (Archer and Patreus) butt heads some months ago otherwise. Although I guess they might’ve shared a border of space there, if I recall some of the talk around it from then.
Not that I am yet discounting a slightly more elaborate lore disguising of their [possible] attempts to make Powerplay less of a huddling contest, but given that GalNet suggesting superpower war may be on the horizon…
Where did the Mictlan end up now anyway? And I’m not surprised they took the route of “Humiliating and expected pirate defeat but without further immediate or wide-reaching lore consequences”. Seemed to be going that way from the start (it probably was just used as a purge of weaker or dissenting elements in Delaine’s ranks), with it being setup for wherever they have things heading. Also like them taking the holo-banners of Arissa showing up on the megaship and writing it into GalNet as an infiltrator hacking the displays, even if probably it was just mechanics of the game doing what they do.
According to Inara, it's still in Beta-3.
(Presumably it can't actually run away in a "leaving the system" sense for at least two weeks, to allow people time to cash in the CG there)
That actually is a darn good win to get to T4, I never expected that. Don't do PP so just chose a side as it was same rewards for winner and losers except for the PP whatever thingys.
Archer vs Patreus: takes place in a valid Acquisition system for both Powers
Winters vs Grom: takes place in a valid Acquisition system for both Powers
Mahon vs Kaine: takes place in a pair of (swapped!) Exploited systems on one of the extensive borders between the two Powers
ALD vs Delaine: takes place in the closest possible ALD system to Delaine space (I wonder if they intended it to be an Acquisition system again at first, and then only having decided on the involved powers and CG type realised that there wasn't going to be one suitable)
Looking at the three possible pairings for the remaining matchups, it's only really the unlikely Duval/Antal one which would give similar problems:
| The classical | The maybe balanced | The unexpected |
| Obviously Duval and Torval have plenty of border within Imperial space | Duval and LYR have plenty of adjacent systems | Duval and Antal don't really have a border - their closest system pair is 35 LY apart (supported by improved systems 78 LY apart), their closest pair of improved systems almost 60 LY apart |
| LYR and Antal are next to each other in the SW of the bubble | Torval and Antal share a border | LYR has a border with Torval too |
Rarely these CGs have been head-to-head races... of course they can use the outcome for some lore etc.
Sorry, should have clarified that bit. Might be a gap in my knowledge, but I assume that had it been a win for Delaine, a system way out on it's own like that would have to be a stronghold or it's effectively cut off from a whole load of reinforcement.
If Delaine had been gifted the system in Powerplay it would have needed to happen at least at Fortified level to survive, but I don't think there's any implication that that would have happened. Kaine didn't lose Winiama to Mahon as a result of that CG ... on the other side, Winters wasn't gifted LP 855-34 after winning that CG (it's currently very gradually drifting towards being acquired, still)
None of the four CG pairs so far have had any Powerplay effect (and nor have they said they would) other than the expected side-effects on Powerplay of high system traffic.
