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Wotthe Dickens

Wotthe Dickens
Psychology; strings pulled; appropriate demographic targeted; either CIG or almost every other company/gov out there do their thing to ensnare you.
Best solution is understanding our own biases. :)
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
The incapacitatings have continued, and morale has not improved...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1lstn05/mass_incap_happening
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1lstn05/mass_incap_happening/


EDIT: Can anyone grab the log screenies from this report? They sound interesting :)

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One log had what looked like player inventory queries being run.
If their client API is not validated and assumes everyone is a good actor, that's going to be a big rework.
They will need to automatically validate all queries based on actual in-game limitations, it needs to be server authorative.
Or it might be just some API calls, or it might be CIG testing their new moderation tools mentioned in the monthly reports as well I guess.
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HansAcker

HansAcker
VR Golgot said:
The incapacitatings have continued, and morale has not improved...:)
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Loos like a shard-wide mass death event. New Babbage, Lorville, Seraphim Station.
The "Inventory Request" show up a lot in these logs but you never know if that's not just the normal weirdness.
Killed by "unknown" and transported to the hospital in their special wonkavator. Then everyone else died, too.

Maybe it is that aggressive server cleanup and not hackers.
 
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
The weird thing with the recent server-wide incappings is that there seem to be less reports of item loss. (Like you can see all the 18 dead bodies in the prior screenie have all their equipped gear still, at that point. The guy in roots' video didn't lose his equipped gear etc.)

That variability in outcomes keeps me leaning towards hacking (with a backdrop of jank).

Like possibly a few hack-users are on a power play at the moment. Server-wide incapping to show that it's them. (While going item swiping one character at a time takes longer etc)
 

HansAcker

HansAcker
VR Golgot said:
The weird thing with the recent server-wide incappings is that there seem to be less reports of item loss. (Like you can see all the 18 dead bodies in the prior screenie have all their equipped gear still, at that point. The guy in roots' video didn't lose his equipped gear etc.)

That variability in outcomes keeps me leaning towards hacking (with a backdrop of jank).

Like possibly a few hack-users are on a power play at the moment. Server-wide incapping to show that it's them. (While going item swiping one character at a time takes longer etc)
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Surely CIG didn't give any old game client full control over the universe. Right? 😨

It's Free Fly again and the beginning of a new referral ladder. Ideal conditions to test the whales' heavily invested's resolve.
Someone's going to spin it into a paid attack by SC Haters Inc.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzUb9aKYb7o On an australian server, someone started mass incapping and killing everyone around the Crusader/Seraphim area. It seems that people who respawned...
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Funny, trying to run VorpX to play in VR is blocked by anti-cheat, but actual cheats and hacks aren’t. GG
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
HansAcker said:
Surely CIG didn't give any old game client full control over the universe. Right? 😨
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If it turns out the average client can go prowling around the PES API this is gonna get amazing 😁

(And be fixable I'd think, too. But still a great big 'the servers cannae take it' flag being waved at the same time. More over-authorised clients won't be far away ;))
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
If this isn't hackery CIG have scaled their bugs to new heights ;)


See the log in this untimely death of a mini Idris crew...


[Notice] <Actor Deaths> CActor::Kill: 'Taht' [207835297907] in zone 'AEGS_Idris_P_4794931354065' killed by "unknown" [0] using 'unknown' (Class unknown) with damage type 'BleedOut' from direction x: 0.000000, у: 0.000000, z: 0.000000
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
The mystery deepens...

These guys both got incapped at the same moment, in totally different places. But they then recovered...


The book is still open on CIG chumpery being fully entwined in this ;)

(Twitch is generally absolutely rammed with sudden mystery incaps, deaths and desnudings. This guy got 3 incaps and 1 death in a single clip.)

[It is all a kinda reminiscent of the patch when if one person ate a sandwich, everyone at a sandwich 😁]
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Discord dug up summat juicy...

This is not a full reflection based SDK generator, so you can't target all classes like CEntity. Still, with this game being entirely clientside, this struct generator is basically all you need to do any exploit in the game, you can make your weapon do 999x damage and shoot 500 pellets a second, you can make your medgun do negative damage and kill people in safezones, and there is plenty of UEC exploits as well, but you can figure those out yourselves :)
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My bold ;)

Looks like the site itself is on a norty list, cant share that.

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Heartbeat is currently off , once its on all this stuff is useless. Fun for the time being and has been for the last few years. No telling how much time we got left
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(Heartbeat seems to be: the game communicating with the anti-cheat system and the driver, ensuring everything is functioning correctly.)
 
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
VR Golgot said:
Discord dug up summat juicy...



My bold ;)

Looks like the site itself is on a norty list, cant share that.

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(Heartbeat seems to be: the game communicating with the anti-cheat system and the driver, ensuring everything is functioning correctly.)
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I guess this is somehow due to CIG trying to improve performance, so they pushed as much as possible client side (and disabled heartbeat?), so this is just the consequence of that?

So the solution to all this is to kill performance!
 
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