New ship: Panther Clipper

[Shurimal]

So the box of the Beluga (the largest so far in the game) is 209.10m x 131.60m x 38.6m, which makes the box of the Panther merely 3/4 of that size.

Most of that bounding box is emptyness that doesn't count for collision detections. The bounding box only matters for what landing pad a ship fits on, nothing else. A big (by volume and mass) ship doesn't need to have the biggest bounding box, and a small ship can fill most of the maximum bounding box possible.

Fdev felt that 1200 tons of cargo is the right amount (whether the playerbase agrees or not) and the PC needs to be the size that it is to fit that.

 

[Bigmaec]

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[kofeyh]

The PC Mk II is not the XL, because there's much unused space on the landing pad.

The XL doesn’t exist? Folks getting all worked up about some mythical other Panther Clipper meanwhile the actual ship is about 200-300t short of where it should be.

It’s been 10 years since Cutter, 11 since Type-9. Some sense of reality here is recommended, because if Frontier is (clearly) borderline terrified of exceeding 1000t, why on earth expect something well bigger again, let alone any time soon. This is their big ship. It doesn’t matter how much of the pad it uses.

 

[Alec Turner]

It's the one you've been waiting for commanders! In this video we drop a Panther Clipper down the side of a massive crater to answer a simple question - what falls fastest? 50 tons of Biowaste or 1200 tons of Panther Clipper?

Source: https://youtu.be/1VcEffaf49Y

 

[Pville_Piper]

It's the one you've been waiting for commanders! In this video we drop a Panther Clipper down the side of a massive crater to answer a simple question - what falls fastest? 50 tons of Biowaste or 1200 tons of Panther Clipper?

Source: https://youtu.be/1VcEffaf49Y

Nice... But how does it handle fully engineered with 1200 tons of cargo?

 

[Sublime]

It's the one you've been waiting for commanders! In this video we drop a Panther Clipper down the side of a massive crater to answer a simple question - what falls fastest? 50 tons of Biowaste or 1200 tons of Panther Clipper?

Source: https://youtu.be/1VcEffaf49Y

Watching that thing tumble down just makes me wonder how epic this game would be if it had destructible ship pieces…

 

[Flimley]

It's not big enough.

Flimley

 

[Alec Turner]

Watching that thing tumble down just makes me wonder how epic this game would be if it had destructible ship pieces…

Indeed. Mind you, I did try this with the Anaconda (which has a damage model) but it was fairly unspectacular unfortunately.

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

Folks getting all worked up about some mythical other Panther Clipper

Folks get riled up about any kind of fantasy they build up in their heads. Nothing new or surprising here.

It's not big enough.

It never is.

I can literally play this piece in my head:
"We want moar cargo!"
"Well, here it is! 1200 tons! We even gave it a name you love! Hope you're happy!"
"It's not big enough! We want moar! Wah!"
"... mkay.... here's your Super Duper Clipper Mk.XXL, carrying over 2000 tons of cargo!"
"Wah, wah, power creep, stupid Frontier, lazy devs!"

There's literally nothing that can ever be done right.

 

[Joe Cool]

In this video we drop a Panther Clipper down the side of a massive crater

Remind me why we can't have nice stuff

 

[aRJay]

Remind me why we can't have nice stuff

Here you go.

Folks get riled up about any kind of fantasy they build up in their heads. Nothing new or surprising here.


It never is.

I can literally play this piece in my head:
"We want moar cargo!"
"Well, here it is! 1200 tons! We even gave it a name you love! Hope you're happy!"
"It's not big enough! We want moar! Wah!"
"... mkay.... here's your Super Duper Clipper Mk.XXL, carrying over 2000 tons of cargo!"
"Wah, wah, power creep, stupid Frontier, lazy devs!"

There's literally nothing that can ever be done right.

 

[thistle]

They hyped it up to be a "wow" amount. 50% is "okay, that's bigger." Would there have been some wanting more? Sure, but it would be a tiny number compared to what you're seeing now.

Did they? Where did they hype it up to be a wow amount? The forum assumed, maybe.

 

[Sublime]

Folks get riled up about any kind of fantasy they build up in their heads. Nothing new or surprising here.


It never is.

I can literally play this piece in my head:
"We want moar cargo!"
"Well, here it is! 1200 tons! We even gave it a name you love! Hope you're happy!"
"It's not big enough! We want moar! Wah!"
"... mkay.... here's your Super Duper Clipper Mk.XXL, carrying over 2000 tons of cargo!"
"Wah, wah, power creep, stupid Frontier, lazy devs!"

There's literally nothing that can ever be done right.

To be fair, let’s look at the events leading up to that conversation. That conversation would not have happened at all had they not also released a new hauling grind, bigger than any hauling grind that existed before. I don’t think anyone would have complained about the 1200 cargo amount had the problem not been artificially created by the same people who are now (surprise!) offering a slight early reprieve for a few bucks.

 

[Darrack]

It's not big enough.

Ive heard that before

O7

 

[Rat Catcher]

"... mkay.... here's your Super Duper Clipper Mk.XXL, carrying over 2000 tons of cargo!"

Me: Humph! I asked for 6050t at least...

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

Me: Humph! I asked for 6050t at least...

You have way more than that already, it's called a fleet carrier.

 

[Brrokk]

You have way more than that already, it's called a fleet carrier.

In the early days of fleet carriers I saw one called "Panther Clipper". I wonder if it will get renamed?

 

[Sublime]

You have way more than that already, it's called a fleet carrier.

Now they just need to allow us to transfer goods to it directly from the station markets the way we do with ships.

I’m surprised that they didn’t remove that option for ships in EDO so that we can instead move the individual bins ourselves, on foot, from the station to the ship’s cargo.

 

[Three Stars]

The ship needs paints like a poison dart frog.

 

[Kimosabe_X]

it's called a fleet carrier.

Try to squeeze that into a mail slot...