Game is lacklustre and boring for me, help me understand

[Alric]

there isnt anything telling you what you can/cant do.

Of course there is. There's the fact that you physically can't do most things.
It's like the old you can have any colour you want saying.. You can do anything you want. As long as it's one of the handful of basic game mechanics.
Every game limits what you can do greatly. Elite is not different in that regard. The challenge is to have those things that you can do combine in interesting ways, and interact with the game setting so that it creates a lot of possibilities, rather than just seeming like you're doing much the same thing over and over with much the same result. Elite can be different n that regard.. the size and scope of the game universe gives the possibility for those interactions to be far more varied than in a typical game. It can be, but it isn't yet.

 

[Toumal]

I really don't get some of you people. Well I for one was just "giving it a quick spin" and now it's half past 2am. And I wasn't bored for a minute, even though I have been playing hundreds of hours since December last year.
Gamma has surpassed my expectations, and then some. I was really worried, but now I'm not worried at all anymore. Yes this game has a long way to go still, but complaining about longetivity, NOW? I bet you guys don't play any other computer games, at all. Either that, or you have dozens of games that you never played for more than a few hours.

 

[elkar]

IMHO, game is sand-box, which really means it's gonna be more about grouping. having corporation/guild/clan or something like that and RP your way thru making your own content and events in enviorement that Frontier gives you. There will be stuff added and hopefully we will see some more depth to it. But mostly it's like.. I dont know.. Star wars galaxies, where players were making most of the content.

PS. by RP i dont mean sitting around and type in chat. The game has voice chat, pretty neat for that purpose. So maybe try to negotiate with a pirates or make a deal with some other player for mining some gold for him or..

 

[MNO]

I really don't get some of you people. Well I for one was just "giving it a quick spin" and now it's half past 2am. And I wasn't bored for a minute, even though I have been playing hundreds of hours since December last year.
Gamma has surpassed my expectations, and then some. I was really worried, but now I'm not worried at all anymore. Yes this game has a long way to go still, but complaining about longetivity, NOW? I bet you guys don't play any other computer games, at all. Either that, or you have dozens of games that you never played for more than a few hours.

When would you like them to complain about longevity? When the game is already dead? These arguments for "it's beta, why complain" are really ridiculous, when exactly would a good time be for people to give criticism if not beta? Please provide an answer because I can't think of a better time to criticize it.

Considering I assume you among many others have dropped a decent chunk of change into ED (£50 is nothing to sniff at mind), I would assume knowing the game stays alive past the first year would also be a concern to you, unless you simply don't playing ED entirely as a solo game, but I would assume the majority don't want to play solo, they want to interact and feel like they're in populated universe.

I play a lot of other computer games, I've got a lot of games on Steam alone with hundreds of hours, before that I had XFire which also has multiple games about 500 hours played. Just because it's everything you wanted doesn't mean it's reached the expectations of everyone else, surely those people pushing Frontier to keep adding features and pushing for more dynamic ways of play can only be beneficial to you, so I think the panties need to be untwisted.

 

[Chainmail]

See, I don't grind, metagame or do anything other than play games. Sounds like some people are burned out on gaming in general and were looking for some kind of panacea, when it's really just a game, albeit one with a lot more potential than most. This game is more complex than something like Skyrim, as an example of a popular game. The gameplay options are all there. The lore is all there (albeit not in game, yet - a Hitchhiker's Guide would work wonders, Mr. Brooke). The setting is even more dynamic and layered, thanks to the background simulation. So you can't walk around - yet. You couldn't in any of the other games, either, and they did alright regardless.

 

[HarryCYUL]

this is my worst purchase of the year, $150 down the toilet XRebirth has more things to do, even the old X TC and X AP have more things to do. EVEN the main menu is boring, no animations moving in background just a photo.

 

[Gelbrock]

I see, thanks for your reply

I just think such a big and beautiful space game would be much more appealing if it gave some more options

For instance, being part of the patrol forces as a "career"

As I perceive it now the core mechanic is a credit grind towards the next ship..and yes, exploration of space for exploration's sake.

Feels a bit empty and wish they added stuff while making one of the most interesting space themed games.


I mean even Wing Commander felt like there was something to do and progress.

Here you only have peanuts credit missions really.

Is the point seriously running from one system to the other 300 times to get the Anaconda..say..and then what?

One of the differences between this game and many others is that there is no 'End Game' as such, of course you could make your own goal I suppose (Become Elite for example).

You mentioned having a career in your post. I would think that sort of stuff is in the works, but at the moment the shell of the game has just been put in place. (and whether its appreciated or not, its a very big shell)

Whatever your wanting in the long run you will probably need some cash to get it done so there is no harm in getting a pile through whatever means takes your fancy.

If all methods of money making are boring for you (Trade, exploration, fighting, mining, missions, factions, escorts etc) even with the new content on its way I would guess this may not be a long term game for you.

I would still pop in and out of the game/forums every now and then to get updated on new content.

Also as they have stated much has been added already but has not been discovered yet in the game, as far as game play and content are concerned. There may be more options to keep you happy.... you just have not discovered them yet

There is no way the DEV team are going to list all the different things you can do in the whole galaxy.... we have to find out ourselves, thats part of the process.

There are still aliens out there that have their own ships call Thargoids that we have yet to come across in the game... who knows what missions will be involved once they are discovered....?

So to answer simply.... there is more in the game than you know, either be patient and play it anyway or play something else until extra content is found/added.

 

[Renideo]

There's a huge amount you 'could' do, but there's nothing at all you 'must' do. You could go visit an astronomical body of interest to you, go looking for something entirely unknown out in the void, join the imperial navy, become a piratical scourge, find a planet experiencing a famine and make it your business to see to their needs, decide that you really, really want an imperial clipper, then fly it around earth three times clicking your heels and saying: "There's no place like home!"

There's going to be a lot more to do as time goes on and they add to it of course, for example there was talk once planetary landings are done of incorporating missions such as those in frontier/FFE where you are hired by a military to spy on and take images of a facility on a planet and escape undetected. There should also be ongoing events and changes based on player actions and interactions as the background simulation gets going (how much of that is now in the game is unclear, but a lot more seems to have been added).

Above all, impose your own constraints as well as your own goals. If you're the type, you can even take it as a role playing experience, but this is not a game with a story that revolves around each one of us, and thus noone, it's the story of how the galaxy moves and evolves, how our collective actions affect it, and the stories in our minds as we experience something interesting, strange or unique that happened to us.

 

[RaynMaykr]

set yourself a goal.

You can find fights at the nav point near the star. Or why not become a pirate?

Yeah but don't you see how shallow that sounds as a game mechanic.... it's even more stark when it's set against a beautiful star and galaxy.... there needs to be more to it than that.

 

[Sagan Ross]

Pardon my ignorance, the game is beautiful, controls tight, feel is great

But

What is there to do a part from jump to a system to another with some cargo, rinse and repeat woth some random pew pew and little interdiction mini-game?

Is not to flame, if that is what it is then that is ok, I just want to understand and manage my expectations.

I find a certain lack of focus or direction in the game. For example, with the factions would we be able to become military pilots and run military missions, potentially from an hub space station?

I liked the alpha-demo combat gameplay and I feel that if I want to fight battles I just have to wait in supercruise until I get interdicted

Am I playing the game wrong?

Well that is the game - make money and get the ship you want.. that's pretty much all it has to offer - the rest of the goals you have to make up yourself like "i wanna get a elite rating or be a great merchant etc etc".

 

[chopchop]

So this is the future ,flying around in a spaceship awsum but wait we dont have a on board computer to map our course ,seems its a com 64 ,cant plot course,so get the paper map out and see where the next stop is,come on now if we flying around in space one would think that a computer could plot our course for us,then there is mining wow mining with the state of the art computers on board looks like we will have to suite up and get a pick and shovel to mine dont we have any drones ,guess not,open the bucket on the spaceship and shovel it in

 

[NeoRacer]

What do people really expect? Look at your daily life, you get up brush your teeth-go to work- do the same job every day..rinse and repeat?

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When you break any game down like that it sounds crap. Look at Call Of Duty..shoot other players, earn something to buy upgrades. Rinse & repeat. multi billion dollar game on release. Ahuh...

 

[Anne Otherplayer]

Pardon my ignorance, the game is beautiful, controls tight, feel is great

But

What is there to do a part from jump to a system to another with some cargo, rinse and repeat woth some random pew pew and little interdiction mini-game?

Is not to flame, if that is what it is then that is ok, I just want to understand and manage my expectations.

I find a certain lack of focus or direction in the game. For example, with the factions would we be able to become military pilots and run military missions, potentially from an hub space station?

I liked the alpha-demo combat gameplay and I feel that if I want to fight battles I just have to wait in supercruise until I get interdicted

Am I playing the game wrong?

Yes, you should be playing it offline solo, oh you can't, then you are playing it as well as it can be played atm.

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What do people really expect? Look at your daily life, you get up brush your teeth-go to work- do the same job every day..rinse and repeat?

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When you break any game down like that it sounds crap. Look at Call Of Duty..shoot other players, earn something to buy upgrades. Rinse & repeat. multi billion dollar game on release. Ahuh...

If that was what I did every day, it'd be horrible, I am glad I can chose my days as they come and alway find something new and exciting to spend my time on.

 

[MrVibrating]

What do people really expect? Look at your daily life, you get up brush your teeth-go to work- do the same job every day..rinse and repeat?

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When you break any game down like that it sounds crap. Look at Call Of Duty..shoot other players, earn something to buy upgrades. Rinse & repeat. multi billion dollar game on release. Ahuh...

Exactly, and all for what - a few measly stats? Flipping a handful of magnetic domains on a hard disc? Cripes, we could just scratch some marks onto an old plate and have done with it. What have we been doing with our lives?

 

[Chainmail]

It's a bit like life, in that you're free to do what you want any old time. However, if you are just a lump of meat with a core of ennui, expecting life to present adventure and thrills on a plate - then your existence will be uneventful.

 

[HarryCYUL]

mining is so weird in ED

 

[Gelbrock]

Exactly, and all for what - a few measly stats? Flipping a handful of magnetic domains on a hard disc? Cripes, we could just scratch some marks onto an old plate and have done with it. What have we been doing with our lives?

I made a really big sandcastle in the shape of a oakwood mushroom once...


...Yeah, Ive lived.

 

[Bredd]

One of the differences between this game and many others is that there is no 'End Game' as such, of course you could make your own goal I suppose (Become Elite for example).

You mentioned having a career in your post. I would think that sort of stuff is in the works, but at the moment the shell of the game has just been put in place. (and whether its appreciated or not, its a very big shell)

Whatever your wanting in the long run you will probably need some cash to get it done so there is no harm in getting a pile through whatever means takes your fancy.

If all methods of money making are boring for you (Trade, exploration, fighting, mining, missions, factions, escorts etc) even with the new content on its way I would guess this may not be a long term game for you.

I would still pop in and out of the game/forums every now and then to get updated on new content.

Also as they have stated much has been added already but has not been discovered yet in the game, as far as game play and content are concerned. There may be more options to keep you happy.... you just have not discovered them yet

There is no way the DEV team are going to list all the different things you can do in the whole galaxy.... we have to find out ourselves, thats part of the process.

There are still aliens out there that have their own ships call Thargoids that we have yet to come across in the game... who knows what missions will be involved once they are discovered....?

So to answer simply.... there is more in the game than you know, either be patient and play it anyway or play something else until extra content is found/added.

There is no undiscovered content, other than randomly generated systems that look just like the last 15 you were in. Why pretend that there is? I agree there is no way the Dev team is going to list all the different things you could do in the whole galaxy.....because it wouldn't be a very long list and people would not buy the game.

 

[Chainmail]

There are a lot of grumpy citizens around with nothing to do, huh?

 

[MNO]

What do people really expect? Look at your daily life, you get up brush your teeth-go to work- do the same job every day..rinse and repeat?

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When you break any game down like that it sounds crap. Look at Call Of Duty..shoot other players, earn something to buy upgrades. Rinse & repeat. multi billion dollar game on release. Ahuh...

You kind of lost everyone here when you compared it to Call of Duty. There are different levels of depth in games, I thought we should come to expect more depth from ED than a game like CoD? You also managed to compare ED to working the same job every day in the same post, I don't even know what point you're trying to make honestly. Are you a spy trained in espionage from a competitor?


Simply saying "ED is like life! You do what you want, be a great trader etc, be the best pirate in the galaxy". What a load of rubbish. Be a great trader? You realise that literally means spending 80% of your time in super cruise watching numbers tick down? Making money is fun, ED's mechanics for doing so through commerce is not.

Be a pirate you say? Yes, because I love playing the same little interdicting minigame all the time, knowing my actions have zero effect on the system let alone the galaxy.

What no one is questioning:

-The game is beautiful
-The flight mechanics are smooth and satisfying
-The HUD is overly orange but we like it anyway
-The proportion of stations is awesome
-The game requires imagination

What we are questioning:

-Is "it's all about imagination" a valid excuse for so little features? I could go and give my kid a stick and say, use your imagination, he might use it as a sword or pretend to shoot bad guys with it, but how long do you think that will last. You're basically saying that to enjoy ED as it's intended you have to be a 100% roleplayer. No one is asking for achievements for christs sake, people are just want more out of the gameplay besides sitting in a USS shooting red dots or sitting in supercruise delivering goods to and from stations, I really don't think that's unfair.
-Are the mechanics too unimaginative? Shooting asteroids to get rocks.
-Where are the player interaction tools? We want to build ingame relationships, make friends, make corps, fly together, fight together, group pvp, escorting friendly merchants so they don't get interdicted. These are the kind of things that bring the excitement and comradery in games like this, there's none of it.


To be blunt, "use your imagination, it's like life, do what you want, think of it how you like" is THE worst excuse for a lack of features that I could ever think of. You can use that argument with EVERY SINGLE form of entertainment in the world. The thing is, no one is even ing on ED and people still get angry, apparently if you voice any opinion that isn't quite "ED IS AMAZING AND I'M NAMING MY FIRST BORN BRABEN" then you should expect some form of harassment in terms of "you have no imagination" "you're just whiney" or my favourite "go back to star citizen" (which I also don't get, the ED community seems to be much more obsessed with SC than they are of us). Get a grip, this is beta, and while I think half of the things we're asking for should already be in the game this close to release, if there is ANY time to criticize or ask for things it's right now, stop stepping all over it because the mean boy said your toy isn't as cool as you think it is.