Request: Cobra Wireframe Paintjob another sell window ?

[Jaiotu]

The thing is, it's not even going to have the same appeal to newcomers - only us oldskool would even understand its significance. Can't we make it an 'anniversary year' thing, rather than just a month? Rewarding players for simply having slightly more pocket money is discriminating against us lower-class riff raff. Sniff.

It is unfortunate that you did not have the money on-hand to take advantage of the Wireframe paint job while it was available. Personally I'd really love to have access to the "Founder's World" in-game so that I could visit the Jameson Memorial. I missed that boat. Does that mean FD owes it to me to make that available now that I have the extra cash to spend?
Of course not.
Frontier Developments has been rewarding players for spending their hard earned cash since the kickstarter. Just because I missed funding the Kickstarter and didn't have the money available to fund the Kickstarter at the time doesn't mean that the perks that were offered during the Kickstarter should be offered again.
And it also doesn't mean that a limited edition item should be made available again.
I did purchase the Wireframe skin. On the last day it was available. It was horribly overpriced and if I had been told that it would be made available again at an unspecified future date... I wouldn't have bought it. I would have waited. The whole point of offering something as a "limited edition" is to raise its perceived value. If they offer the Limited Edition paint job again... then they'll never be able to market anything as "Limited Edition" in the future because they will have lost their credibility.
Complaining about "discrimination" because you missed the original sale for whatever reason is just silly. The whole point of selling it as a "Limited Edition" was to create a form of discrimination between those who have the paint job and those who don't.
Personally, I'd be okay with allowing anyone who had purchased the game prior to October 1st having access to buy the skin at its original price. My whole rational for purchasing the skin was so that new players down the road would see me in it and know that I was beta backer on sight. Frontier would be shooting themselves in the foot doing so however. They offer these things for sale to generate revenue that they need to fund their projects and pay their employees. If I know that I can wait to buy a thing... then I probably will. No hurry. No hurry might mean that Frontier has to lay-off one of its programmers because they didn't meet their funding for that month.

 

[nexxo]

Pffrrrt. I saw the Face of Ultimate Evil a few years back. I was researching social media games, and was looking at Farmville....

Say no more (trauma counselling is down the hall, first door on the left BTW).
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I think the Cobra wireframe skin should be issues as standard to every '84.

 

[Bog]

Say no more (trauma counselling is down the hall, first door on the left BTW).
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I think the Cobra wireframe skin should be issues as standard to every '84.

*Raises his drink to his lips, palsied hand getting it everywhere*

I saw things, man. I saw things.

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It is unfortunate that you did not have the money on-hand to take advantage of the Wireframe paint job while it was available. Personally I'd really love to have access to the "Founder's World" in-game so that I could visit the Jameson Memorial. I missed that boat. Does that mean FD owes it to me to make that available now that I have the extra cash to spend?
Of course not.
Frontier Developments has been rewarding players for spending their hard earned cash since the kickstarter. Just because I missed funding the Kickstarter and didn't have the money available to fund the Kickstarter at the time doesn't mean that the perks that were offered during the Kickstarter should be offered again.
And it also doesn't mean that a limited edition item should be made available again.
I did purchase the Wireframe skin. On the last day it was available. It was horribly overpriced and if I had been told that it would be made available again at an unspecified future date... I wouldn't have bought it. I would have waited. The whole point of offering something as a "limited edition" is to raise its perceived value. If they offer the Limited Edition paint job again... then they'll never be able to market anything as "Limited Edition" in the future because they will have lost their credibility.
Complaining about "discrimination" because you missed the original sale for whatever reason is just silly. The whole point of selling it as a "Limited Edition" was to create a form of discrimination between those who have the paint job and those who don't.
Personally, I'd be okay with allowing anyone who had purchased the game prior to October 1st having access to buy the skin at its original price. My whole rational for purchasing the skin was so that new players down the road would see me in it and know that I was beta backer on sight. Frontier would be shooting themselves in the foot doing so however. They offer these things for sale to generate revenue that they need to fund their projects and pay their employees. If I know that I can wait to buy a thing... then I probably will. No hurry. No hurry might mean that Frontier has to lay-off one of its programmers because they didn't meet their funding for that month.

Hear, hear! I'd give a LOT to know what's in the Founder's System. I'd LOVE to visit the Jameson Memorial - dear ghu, I've only just heard about it and I have chills!

But that ship sailed. I didn't have the wherewithal at the time, and so, I don't get these things. We're adults, we know how life works. Time passes and opportunities to, too, every second of every day.

But lots of ships haven't sailed - and they're piled high with gold and plunder, beauty and wonder. So go forth and find them, because there are four billion suns yet to dawn on us all. Nobody knows what their rays will reveal.

I may not just be talking about the game, here.

 

[Cosmos]

They could add wireframes as an in-game award... Reach elite... you get a free wireframe skin for all your ships
But then I would feel dirty having bought the cobra one...(impersonating an elite rank) so perhaps something else for that ship

Its a ground breaking concept I know.. We get cool stuff from the game by playing it.

When it comes to the wireframe paintjob I do think its very selfish of those who bought it to object to it being offered up again at some point. I happened not to have a spare £10 at the time, yet I've put a ton of time and effort into the project, time-wise and financially. So, I get the shaft for doing so?

The sad reality is we are now arguing as to whether it should be up for sale in the store again, rather than arguing for some things like these being available by playing the game. That we earn from a tough and rare challenge or other accomplishments.

It is unfortunate that you did not have the money on-hand to take advantage of the Wireframe paint job while it was available. Personally I'd really love to have access to the "Founder's World" in-game so that I could visit the Jameson Memorial. I missed that boat. Does that mean FD owes it to me to make that available now that I have the extra cash to spend?

Actually it was said during KS that all stuff in-game would available with in-game credits (i.e. playing the game). I wouldnt get too excited about the Founders world because as it stands there is nothing special about it. However, I do believe that all people who have backed the game have a pass for the system, and those who don't can eventually visit with a high enough rank.

 

[Amorelia]

When it comes to the wireframe paintjob I do think its very selfish of those who bought it to object to it being offered up again at some point.

It is. Although "Limited Edition" itself tends to bring out the self-centred in humanity, so it's a marketing ploy intended to profit from people's selfishness.

Still, when ED is no more because of all these "limited edition" items failing to keep the coffers full in the long run, at least some of us will still be able to enjoy our "limited edition" keepsakes.

Oh....wait... no we won't.

 

[QuantumTron]

When it comes to the wireframe paintjob I do think its very selfish of those who bought it to object to it being offered up again at some point. I happened not to have a spare £10 at the time, yet I've put a ton of time and effort into the project, time-wise and financially. So, I get the shaft for doing so?

The wireframe paintjob was marketed as "30th Anniversary Limited Edition". It is not a case of being selfish. It is a case of someone purchasing it because they believed that it was worth paying for such a limited edition item.

And now you want its sale to be reopened, which would immediately cheapen the whole point the paintjob was put on sale in the first place. It is not I who is being selfish here, sir, it is you.

Once again, FDEV, I implore you to treat such requests with the contempt they deserve.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Cobra wireframe with lines of another colors (green, red, blue ...) would be a way to get around the limited edition of origin

 

[Tarman]

Wireframe another classic ship. Retro achieved, no toes stepped on. We all fly away looking like we're going to play Asteroids.

 

[insanephoton]

How about a wireframe Sidewinder?

 

[Tarman]

How about a wireframe Sidewinder?

Actually I want a pink Sidewinder because I just realized it looks almost like a salmon steak.

 

[QuantumTron]

Cobra wireframe with lines of another colors (green, red, blue ...) would be a way to get around the limited edition of origin

It would be a good way. But then you'd still get cries of dissent from the people who specifically want those white lines, and those who object are somehow being selfish, never mind the cognitive dissonance involved in coming to that conclusion.

I also mentioned in my original reply that FDEV could always produce wireframe paintjobs for the other ships - absolutely nothing wrong with that at all - but I predict that still wouldn't satisfy the type of people who are ridiculously calling for a supposedly limited edition paintjob to suddenly be non-limited edition.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Actually I want a pink Sidewinder because I just realized it looks almost like a salmon steak.

Pink Orcas or Clippers might be hugely successful too...

 

[Harmoniser]

I missed the opportunity to get the wireframe paintjob and like to request another sell window of this awesome paintjob !!

anyone with me ?

No thank you. I purchased only because it was limited to the anniversary week. It was £10. I think it's a perk for those of us who backed the game back then. Also for us having to face the ridicule if spending£10 for a skin. Now if they charged you £20. I'd have no problem.

But I quite like the idea if rare skins.

 

[Grimster]

It'd be nice if you could have a skin designer in the store and create your own 'one offs' for a couple of quid.

Assuming you eventually get to see the outside of your ship anyway.

 

[Corwyn]

None. My wisdom is not to waste so much on such a trifle.

Then why are you here in this thread in the first place? If you don't even want one, what does it matter to you?

 

[Grimster]

Then why are you here in this thread in the first place? If you don't even want one, what does it matter to you?

He's here for the trifle.

Hmm, trifle.

 

[Corwyn]

Say no more (trauma counselling is down the hall, first door on the left BTW).
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I think the Cobra wireframe skin should be issues as standard to every '84.

How do you prove someone's an '84, except by their word? I am an '84, and I wouldn't expect anyone to trust that I am just by saying it here on a forum, with no proof.

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It is. Although "Limited Edition" itself tends to bring out the self-centred in humanity, so it's a marketing ploy intended to profit from people's selfishness.

Still, when ED is no more because of all these "limited edition" items failing to keep the coffers full in the long run, at least some of us will still be able to enjoy our "limited edition" keepsakes.

Oh....wait... no we won't.

OMG, they're not going to go out of business due to "Limited Edition" anything. If anything, they'd go out of business due to lost respect and credibility if they went back on it and started selling "Limited Edition" items again.

Sorry to say, but anyone that makes such an argument has only 1 agenda, they want one and are trying to belittle everyone that has it, because they don't and can't get it. That's Selfish.

 

[MrVibrating]

No thank you. I purchased only because it was limited to the anniversary week. It was £10. I think it's a perk for those of us who backed the game back then. Also for us having to face the ridicule if spending£10 for a skin. Now if they charged you £20. I'd have no problem.

But I quite like the idea if rare skins.

Was it only a week? i thought it was a month... that's even worse.

Shouldn't we actually be celebrating the anniversary year? Either that, or a single day. Anything else seems rather arbitrary..

 

[MrVibrating]

How do you prove someone's an '84, except by their word? I am an '84, and I wouldn't expect anyone to trust that I am just by saying it here on a forum, with no proof.

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OMG, they're not going to go out of business due to "Limited Edition" anything. If anything, they'd go out of business due to lost respect and credibility if they went back on it and started selling "Limited Edition" items again.

Sorry to say, but anyone that makes such an argument has only 1 agenda, they want one and are trying to belittle everyone that has it, because they don't and can't get it. That's Selfish.

So for proof, evidence of original copies of the game would do. Of course if you haven't kept your original copy, boxed and complete from '84, as i have, then you obviously either don't care about the game very much, or are a complete phoney, and a popinjay.

As for limited anniversary editions, how about a cyan wireframe cobra skin to commemorate the enhanced Master 128 version? I'd prefer this anyway, since this was the ship i reached Elite in..

 

[Memnoch]

I have the wireframe livery for my Cobra. I also don't care whether they offer it up for sale again as it won't affect me one way or the other if they do or they don't. I don't need this to make me feel like a special snowflake and if others get it, it doesn't make me any more or less so. If it earns money for FD to help continue development and expansion of the game then why not?