Elite: Dangerous Trailer now with added honesty

For a CGI game trailer I think the ED one is about as close to a real game as you're gonna find.

Yet the last time I saw trailers for WoW, SC2, SWTOR, SC, etc I didn't see such a hysterical level of whining that those trailers didn't match the game exactly. All this moaning and hating on the trailer is pretty pathetic imo.

Yeah, I think its pretty unbelievable personally. Where have all these gamers been for the past two decades? Game trailers are theatrical. They aren't always representative of actual gameplay. Often times they are there just to get you pumped up and give you something cool to watch before you get into the game.

I know your original intention was humor with this vid, but you have actually convinced some people to pass on this game because they feel it is a scam, or false advertising. Just read the comments on other sites where this vid is showing up.
 
Yeah, I think its pretty unbelievable personally. Where have all these gamers been for the past two decades? Game trailers are theatrical. They aren't always representative of actual gameplay. Often times they are there just to get you pumped up and give you something cool to watch before you get into the game.

I know your original intention was humor with this vid, but you have actually convinced some people to pass on this game because they feel it is a scam, or false advertising. Just read the comments on other sites where this vid is showing up.

None of this makes it right though, and as a consumer I am glad that this is gaining traction, I do not mind the eye candy of trailers but at the same time this is marketing material. So if someone comes along and sees this, thinks "OH THAT LOOKS AMAZING" logs in and plays it and realises the error of their ways they cannot get a refund, as digital medium are exempt from that unless the seller wishes to provide one.

So yes they will lose sales, but they should never have had those sales in the first place, and yes same goes for other companies who show you epic trailers and you end up playing a duffer. If you tell me I am getting a Ferrari and I get a Transit Van which I cannot refund, you are basically committing fraud at a lesser degree, but it seems to be ok if you are the seller, if I bought a Ferrari and returned a Transit Van for a refund I am sure there would be many legal precedings...
 

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None of this makes it right though, and as a consumer I am glad that this is gaining traction, I do not mind the eye candy of trailers but at the same time this is marketing material. So if someone comes along and sees this, thinks "OH THAT LOOKS AMAZING" logs in and plays it and realises the error of their ways they cannot get a refund, as digital medium are exempt from that unless the seller wishes to provide one.

So yes they will lose sales, but they should never have had those sales in the first place, and yes same goes for other companies who show you epic trailers and you end up playing a duffer. If you tell me I am getting a Ferrari and I get a Transit Van which I cannot refund, you are basically committing fraud at a lesser degree, but it seems to be ok if you are the seller, if I bought a Ferrari and returned a Transit Van for a refund I am sure there would be many legal precedings...

I would accept the trailer as nothing more than an entertainment if it weren't such a struggle on the forums to convince people that many want action in a game like the trailer to be a viable method of gameplay. The matra of the founders is absolute in its exclusion of pvp(except for demonstrational purposes) and combat in general unless initiated by the player in PvE. Basically...its like trying to convince civil war reenanctors to practice shooting. What would they need that for? They need to shine their buttons.

So watching the trailer stuck a bit too close to home for those of us who have tried and given up having the game WE wanted.

I get it. If I was too old to play in a competitive environment, and eventually I will be. I'd design this game too. My comfy chair...warm glass of hot chocolate...trading back and forth and occasionally kick a puppy (NPC ship) to make me feel like I still had the stuff.
 
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Please ask yourself...

Do you actually, honestly think that the cinematic trailer is gameplay footage?
Would you buy this game based entirely on that trailer?
Would you research a game further after watching a CINEMATIC trailer before purchasing?


I don't imagine any of you are that devoid of common sense to answer yes to all 3 questions but THAT is what your arguments are currently based on.

You're inventing a strawman 'general uninformed stupid public' to make your case on fraud, legal issues, and refunds.
 

darkcyd

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Please ask yourself...

Do you actually, honestly think that the cinematic trailer is gameplay footage?
Would you buy this game based entirely on that trailer?
Would you research a game further after watching a CINEMATIC trailer before purchasing?


I don't imagine any of you are that devoid of common sense to answer yes to all 3 questions but THAT is what your arguments are currently based on.

You're inventing a strawman 'general uninformed stupid public' to make your case on fraud, legal issues, and refunds.

Again, I don't think people are upset that the trailer is a bit of an elaboration, but that they want gameplay closer to the trailer and have taken so much grief over that here and to watch it go out as an advertisement is salt on a wound.

Its okay. When I get old I won't want kids on my yard and I won't want them on my video games.
 
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And imagine their reaction when they log on and fly around the first few days..
"This is nothing like the video... I want a refund" <--- LOL prepare for the new refund threads after Dec 16 :D
I can just see it now....

"false advertising"
"misleading"
"not as shown"
"my uncle is a lawyer"
"class action"
"calls for boycott"
yep.... *sip* it's gona be most entertaining to see unfold. :D
Imagine alll those World of Warcraft people watching cinematic trailers, then buing the game and quiting because game was nothing like trailers.
Class action - yeah go ahead and see how it goes...
 
Please ask yourself...

Do you actually, honestly think that the cinematic trailer is gameplay footage?
Would you buy this game based entirely on that trailer?
Would you research a game further after watching a CINEMATIC trailer before purchasing?


I don't imagine any of you are that devoid of common sense to answer yes to all 3 questions but THAT is what your arguments are currently based on.

You're inventing a strawman 'general uninformed stupid public' to make your case on fraud, legal issues, and refunds.

I LOVE the trailer, and I know it is not gameplay footage, and not I would not buy based solely off a trailer and I would do some other research.

My argument though is not entirely on the point of the trailer not being gameplay, *MY* personal issue is that other than the cockpit scene the majority of that trailer is geared around combat. That implies to most people that the games core focus is combat. If you look at other games trailers, assassins creed, world of warcraft... their trailers are cinematic but they show Orcs fighting Humans (core gameplay mechanic), assassins murdering people (a core gameplay mechanic). So in *most* game trailers yes it is very over the top but it often tells people "THIS IS THE STUFF YOU DO IN GAME".

However if we were to judge the elite trailer by the same perspective it shows primarily combat, which although is in the game, does not seem to be a big thing. I have yet to find a combat encounter outside of the training modules (granted I gave up after a few hours of aimlessly flying towards another generic system), the game is more based around logistics and less about combat. THIS is my problem with the trailer, people are lead to believe this is a combat based space game, but it is a logistical space game with combat elements.

Again I am not OVERLY fussed about this whole point, I am one of those people who looks at the trailer and wishes the game more accurately reflected that, rather than looking at it and wishing it more accurately reflected the current game.
 
Total , if you want to compare ad footage to game footage at least undertake the same activities for comparison and in the same types of location. OP is a <insert favourite expletive> here :)
 

Incorrect, my fallacy would have been the Fallacy Fallacy, but you had 0 constructive issues with the content he produced, just the reasoning behind why he made it, which is not of any consequence hence the pointing out, I am often a sharpshooter though, keep your eye out and see how many you can catch me with :)

Total , if you want to compare ad footage to game footage at least undertake the same activities for comparison and in the same types of location. OP is a <insert favourite expletive> here :)

I think you meant to say "someone who is pointing out that the game is not really about fast paced combat in a comedic way".
 
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Found this on the RPS comments, it is much more 'Elite' than the bombastic Launch trailer.

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Lol i laughed at the "routine scan". Made me imagine the cop was Dredd.

And that yaw. hahaha its so true i almost cried.

And the "none of this will actually happen" kinda hurt, butagain its still true.

I really hope the devs seen this and took it with a grain of salt. Injecting some fun back into elite will go along ways. Because that trailer is way faster paced and that cobra has some crazy stronk horizontal attitude control.
 
It is quite easy to have a browse around YouTube and find lots of actual gameplay footage for any game. Buying a game (or anything) without doing any research seems a little short-sighted in today's internet connected world.
 
Lol i laughed at the "routine scan". Made me imagine the cop was Dredd.

And that yaw. hahaha its so true i almost cried.

And the "none of this will actually happen" kinda hurt, butagain its still true.

I really hope the devs seen this and took it with a grain of salt. Injecting some fun back into elite will go along ways. Because that trailer is way faster paced and that cobra has some crazy stronk horizontal attitude control.
 
OP you are my hero. <snip>. FD deserves to receive criticism for not only that trailer which is one big lie and cash grab but also for countless bad decisions they have made so far.
 
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So lets take a look at these CGI trailers then

Elder Scrolls Online
SWTOR
World of Warcraft
Star Craft 2
Diablo 3
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the list goes on.

They look NOTHING like how the game plays. I dont recall people making idiot comparisons between the gameplay and CGI trailers for those games.

I don't know about other games but Diable 3: it doesn't look like the actual game but it depicts the theme and setting pretty well.

ED trailer presents the game as a pure space shooter and while you can certanly play it as a shooter, they are missing the majority of target audience by not at least hinting any other aspect of the game. ED is so much more then just a shooter, why market it like that?
 
I don't know about other games but Diable 3: it doesn't look like the actual game but it depicts the theme and setting pretty well.

ED trailer presents the game as a pure space shooter and while you can certanly play it as a shooter, they are missing the majority of target audience by not at least hinting any other aspect of the game. ED is so much more then just a shooter, why market it like that?

Well I suppose its subjective but when I watched the ED trailer it encapsulates what I love and enjoy about the game. There are a heap of other videos Frontier have put out for the game too. So I really can't fathom what the problem is, other than people sniping and nitpicking.
 
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Top Gear is FAKE?!? :D

Made me smile with a sage nodding of head.

As for the FD one, yeah, its a trailer. Maybe a bit of in-game footage should have made it in. Best trailers for ED are Isinona's videos. They sold it for me and I'm loving it.
 
I think they made the trailer to scare off the competition. You know, that other game:

EDIT: Removed Star Wars Attack Squadron Video

Oh, they cancelled that? We won!
 
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