Astronomy / Space Big Bang Theory ruled out! - Possibly....

Cody

Cody
Hmm... no comment (as I know zilch about physics/metaphysics), only a quote:

Wiki said:
Stephen Hawking was originally a believer in the Theory of Everything but, after considering Gödel's Theorem, concluded that one was not obtainable.
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Stephen Hawking said:
Some people will be very disappointed if there is not an ultimate theory, that can be formulated as a finite number of principles. I used to belong to that camp, but I have changed my mind.
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breakpointUK

breakpointUK
Thanks for the link Oddball...

Interesting stuff, I watch a lot of cosmology/science documentaries which heavily rely on BB theory being the foundation theory, the impacts could massive... Maybe Einstein was wrong :eek:
 

Geraldine

Geraldine
Very true Kerrash. It is always wise to be careful when looking at new theories coming out. But if this one is correct, it would have implications for other areas of astrophysics. Interesting to see how the greater scientific community reacts to it.
 

Oddball

Oddball
Geraldine.... I think you are right to be skeptical. Caution is the word to use here I feel.

Having just read most of the documentation on his web site, I find it amazing that someone from the scientific community would make such claims without any backing from others in the community. I looked and looked but could not find quotes from other scientists who could verify his claims. This is an unbelievable oversight on his part and one which seems to me to affect the credibility of the paper.

Please note that he also mentions his intention to publish other related articles including the purpose of life, psychology, agriculture and climate change. MMMmmmm........

Well, I don't know about you guys but for a 25 year old physicist claiming to know the theory of everything is quite some claim.

Please also note the use of the Paypal button on his website so that people can make donations.

I leave it to you to decide.... :)
 

Geraldine

Geraldine
Well even Einstein was 25 once. ;) One thing though, even if it is disproved that still helps the advancement of knowledge. After all, its even more important to know what is inaccurate as keeps the scientific community on their toes. :)
 

Mobius

Mobius
not sure If I followed that, all I got was a constant "the big bang theory is wrong", and " all the measurements are wrong, but the video doesn't even start to explain how it came into existence just saying that its moving differently.
 

Oddball

Oddball
I suspect it is rubbish. On his website he states...

"rules out the 2011 Nobel Prize Big Bang Theory".


However, the 2011 Nobel Prize for physics was awarded to Saul Perlmutter, Brian P. Schmidt and Adam Riess for providing evidence that the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

source....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Perlmutter

[EDIT] Also, when you think about it, how can someone ever be awarded a Nobel Prize for a theory alone? You have to be able to provide some evidence for the Nobel Prize and then it is no longer a theory.

The first ever theory of the Big Bang was proposed by Georges Lemaitre in 1927

source....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître
 
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Aewarin Jameson

Aewarin Jameson
Oddball said:
I suspect it is rubbish. On his website he states...
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I don't know for sure if this guy is genuine or not but you have quoted him incorrectly. His website, on the About page states:
By late 2012, I had known that an expanding universe could be conclusively ruled out; even in consideration of the 2011 Nobel Prize being awarded for the discovery of accelerated expansion.
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which is exactly what the Nobel prize was awarded for.
 

Magma

Magma
Oddball said:
Also, when you think about it, how can someone ever be awarded a Nobel Prize for a theory alone? You have to be able to provide some evidence for the Nobel Prize and then it is no longer a theory.
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The definition of a theory in science is not the same as it is in popular culture. Generally in science, a theory is a "comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence" (copy/paste from Wikipedia to save time). A more applicable word to use for an unproven explanation might be hypothesis (an explanation that can be tested scientifically) or more generally a conjecture (an explanation that has not been proven, whether or not any proof is actually possible).

In mathematics, these terms mean different things in ways I won't even pretend to understand.
 

DigitalDuck

DigitalDuck
Magma said:
In mathematics, these terms mean different things in ways I won't even pretend to understand.
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They mean exactly the same things in mathematics...

The only thing you might be getting confused about is a "theorem", which is the mathematical equivalent of a theory - except that you don't have "evidence" in mathematics, things are either true or untrue according to the set of axioms you choose as your mathematical basis.

Theorems are statements that are logically true (can be proven), whereas theories are statements that are empirically true (has evidence to suggest).
 

Oddball

Oddball
Liqua said:
I don't know for sure if this guy is genuine or not but you have quoted him incorrectly. His website, on the About page states:

which is exactly what the Nobel prize was awarded for.
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I got the quote from his HOME page. Please check there. I have just checked again and I quoted him correctly.
 
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