Today I've been doing some exploration. I've found some systems that seem to never have been scanned including. Does that mean I'm the first person to ever scan the system? When I sell the exploration data for the system, will the planet names now be available when other players enter the system? Does that make it available for others to buy from the galaxy map?
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Unlikely. Since I don't know the implementation details I suspect that each player has an individual database of stellar information. If you haven't visited the system before but another player scanned it you don't have any information on this system. For instance I found and scanned a system with more than 20 stellar bodies 30 ly away from SOL. Since it is on the direct way to the imperial systems it's unlikely that nobody scanned it before. I don't know if the selling price in the universal cartopgraphics is related to the number of scans in the system. The only think I'm sure is that systems with more stellar bodies have also a higher selling price.
As far as I know when you go to a system which is not a massive infestation of human life... sorry inhabited in high density then you can scan it. This does not mean your first.
It was reported that the first got all the credits. Next few slightly less and so on till the system became common knowledge. Not sure how many people it takes.
Once a station has your data I would guess this is what others buy from the Galaxy Map if there too lasy to do the visiting or sellf there basic scanner.
It was reported that the first got all the credits. Next few slightly less and so on till the system became common knowledge. Not sure how many people it takes.
Once a station has your data I would guess this is what others buy from the Galaxy Map if there too lasy to do the visiting or sellf there basic scanner.
A system that shows unexplored only means you do not have the data for it.
If you are the first to sell the data then I understand you get a premium price but it is not limited to only 1 person being able to sell it.
I'm not sure if the station you are selling to is a factor or not in this.
I suspect that over time once multiple people have sold the same data it may become part of the galaxy map and so known by everyone or it may just that it is available for purchase in the galaxy map.
If you are the first to sell the data then I understand you get a premium price but it is not limited to only 1 person being able to sell it.
I'm not sure if the station you are selling to is a factor or not in this.
I suspect that over time once multiple people have sold the same data it may become part of the galaxy map and so known by everyone or it may just that it is available for purchase in the galaxy map.
I'm investigating this sort of thing.
So far I'm not seeing any great variation in selling prices but there are some oddities.
This picture shows the exploration return value in credits (y axis) for detailed scanning of some low mass (x axis) brown and main sequence dwarf stars.
(I hope you'll all call these Orlov diagrams.)
There is a very slight variation with the mass of the star (from around 1200 at low mass to 1220 credits at highest mass here.)
Note that there are a bunch of stars which returned only around 1000 credits, and one star which returned over 1400.
I can't tell whether this is down to a bug (either not counting the initial non-detailed scan, or counting it twice) or whether it's something to do with other explorers.
I haven't been able to fit the variation with mass to a nice simple function e.g. BASE VALUE + (ADDITIONAL VALUE * (MASS ^ EXPONENT)).
So far I'm not seeing any great variation in selling prices but there are some oddities.
This picture shows the exploration return value in credits (y axis) for detailed scanning of some low mass (x axis) brown and main sequence dwarf stars.
(I hope you'll all call these Orlov diagrams.)
There is a very slight variation with the mass of the star (from around 1200 at low mass to 1220 credits at highest mass here.)
Note that there are a bunch of stars which returned only around 1000 credits, and one star which returned over 1400.
I can't tell whether this is down to a bug (either not counting the initial non-detailed scan, or counting it twice) or whether it's something to do with other explorers.
I haven't been able to fit the variation with mass to a nice simple function e.g. BASE VALUE + (ADDITIONAL VALUE * (MASS ^ EXPONENT)).
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I'm investigating this sort of thing.
So far I'm not seeing any great variation in selling prices but there are some oddities.
This picture shows the exploration return value in credits (y axis) for detailed scanning of some low mass (x axis) brown and main sequence dwarf stars.
(I hope you'll all call these Orlov diagrams.)
There is a very slight variation with the mass of the star (from around 1200 at low mass to 1220 credits at highest mass here.)
Note that there are a bunch of stars which returned only around 1000 credits, and one star which returned over 1400.
I can't tell whether this is down to a bug (either not counting the initial non-detailed scan, or counting it twice) or whether it's something to do with other explorers.
I haven't been able to fit the variation with mass to a nice simple function e.g. BASE VALUE + (ADDITIONAL VALUE * (MASS ^ EXPONENT)).
Nice investigation. Have you tried to calculate a correlation between the number of stellar bodies in a system and the selling price?
You can explore galactic map and all systems that have red orbit lines icon and non exploration data to buy, its never been explored by no one before I think. Correct me if I wrong
I wasn't sure if this meant no one had explored it or just no one had explored it and sold to stations you had visited. You used to buy the data in stations rather than on the map and I don't know if they changed the behaviour when they moved it to buying directly in the map.
There doesn't seem to be one - for example I looked at a system recently where a half dozen "Y" dwarfs were orbiting a "G" star and the selling prices for all of them were as I would expect if they were the only star in the system.
The deviations from the expected value don't follow any pattern based on the system itself that I can see, so I imagine either a bug or something to do with other people selling data.
(Or my making mistakes - but it would be unusual for me to make mistakes quite so frequently. I plot out a trade route between two points, doing ordinary scans on the first run and then scanning only one star or planet per system on subsequent runs, so it's fairly foolproof.)
I'm currently not docked to any station and approx. 800 ly away from the next dock. I look at TALTA which is near SOL, I don't have the data and nothing to buy here. So I think you have to be in range with universal cartographics to buy new exploration data.
Well, if the system was previously explored, do you not get an option to buy exploration data on Galaxy map? I would say if there are no exploration data to be bought, then yes, you are first in that sector. And big faction owned sectors are explored by default. As in if Feradation has station there, it is already fully explored.