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[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
terminatahx said:
It's another sloppy, poorly written review, with an unrepresentative score. An 8/10 means a game is excellent, void of any significant shortcomings or bugs. ED is nothing of the sort. When you actually read the review, he focuses way too much time on things that may seem formidable to a noobe in his first 2 hours of play, but later, are insignificant (starport docking). He also mentions features that are currently not working (liveries - ship paint customization). And there's no indication of how long he played the game, if any at all. Like other glowing reviews out already, there is NO mention of the games current bugs, broken promises, and broken components (trading).

Matter of fact, in his "review" he seems to point out more negatives than positive, but gives it an 8/10. But this is consistent with what we've seen so far by other "professional reviewers": lazy, fanboy reviews, with little to no "meat" or facts in the review by which to base their excellent scores. I find the actual users reviews far more accurate.

Bottom line, these "professional reviewer sites" are anything but professional.
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Sounds like sour grapes to me from the legions of people who were certain that the game was going to be crucified on launch and yet the worst I have seen it get was a 7, and the best a 9.........

Yes the review is critical of a few points and rightfully so, but bottom line that does not mean the game cant be an 8. I am maybe 30 or 40 hrs into Gamma and its not getting old for me, even with its "limited" content.

for many people starting the game now, by the time they exhaust the current content there should be plenty more in there. the core of the game is sold. That is the most important thing to get right. Just because you do not agree with the reviewer does not mean he is wrong.
 
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terminatahx said:
It's another sloppy, poorly written review, with an unrepresentative score. An 8/10 means a game is excellent, void of any significant shortcomings or bugs. ED is nothing of the sort. When you actually read the review, he focuses way too much time on things that may seem formidable to a noobe in his first 2 hours of play, but later, are insignificant (starport docking). He also mentions features that are currently not working (liveries - ship paint customization). And there's no indication of how long he played the game, if any at all. Like other glowing reviews out already, there is NO mention of the games current bugs, broken promises, and broken components (trading).

Matter of fact, in his "review" he seems to point out more negatives than positive, but gives it an 8/10. But this is consistent with what we've seen so far by other "professional reviewers": lazy, fanboy reviews, with little to no "meat" or facts in the review by which to base their excellent scores. I find the actual users reviews far more accurate.

Bottom line, these "professional reviewer sites" are anything but professional.
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Oh God not YOU again.....
It's Xmas, why don't you go spend time with people you love?
 

Lobstris

Lobstris
Good review. Agree for the most part. The systems in Elite are nowhere near as complex as some of the study flight-sims I've played, yet I can understand a new player being daunted without a manual and decent tutorials.
 

Closet_Monkey

Closet_Monkey
Still one more review to come in but its looking good for a 7 or 8 on metacritic aswell.
I would have to agree that a 7 or 8 is fair, it reflects that some improvements can be made but it has a solid framework.
 

zaccheus44

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Its well written but then he gave it an 8/10...half his review was describing how it had soul but no personality, or issues with tedium etc...it just doesn't add up to an 8, at least not the impression I got reading it, unless it's an 8/10, on. 4-10 scale...very confusing
 

terminatahx

terminatahx
Mad Mike said:
Sounds like sour grapes to me from the legions of people who were certain that the game was going to be crucified on launch and yet the worst I have seen it get was a 7, and the best a 9.........

Yes the review is critical of a few points and rightfully so, but bottom line that does not mean the game cant be an 8. I am maybe 30 or 40 hrs into Gamma and its not getting old for me, even with its "limited" content.

for many people starting the game now, by the time they exhaust the current content there should be plenty more in there. the core of the game is sold. That is the most important thing to get right. Just because you do not agree with the reviewer does not mean he is wrong.
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No sour grapes at all. Just fed up with the misrepresentation of the facts. If you actually read his review, you know (based on your own experience) that he hasn't played the game enough. It's evident in his comments. You also know that his review fails to make the case that the game, currently deserves and 8/10. While it may "feel good" to you to see that score, you know, by reading the article and looking at the facts, he wrote a lazy fluff review and gave it a awesome score. If he had given the game a 3/10 with the same lazy effort, you would be enraged.

ED is not the kind of game you can do a respectable review in a few paragraphs. We all know that. You can write a comprehensive review on trading alone. ED is a different game and requires a reviewer to spend alot of time in the game before they even think of writing a review.

Reviews should give a score, but the details in the review should help everyone understand how the score was derived. This "review" clearly fails to do that.
 
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Antigonos

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zaccheus44 said:
Its well written but then he gave it an 8/10...half his review was describing how it had soul but no personality, or issues with tedium etc...it just doesn't add up to an 8, at least not the impression I got reading it, unless it's an 8/10, on. 4-10 scale...very confusing
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professional review normally are not a sum up of pros and cons but summarizes the fun the reviewer had while playing it. its a very personal figure. (at least in my magazine thats the case).
 

JonnyC0mbat

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Antigonos said:
so where are all those 3/10 reviews people talked about in this forum for months?
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I guess the reviewers aren't as jaded as some people on here are, and can just review it on its merits. As I said before, there is only a vocal (very vocal) minority of dissenters. I'd give it 10/10 purely out of blind adoration. Are there problems? Yes. Do I care about them? No. Would I play this game for 12 hours a day if I was able to? Probably. :D
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Antigonos said:
so where are all those 3/10 reviews people talked about in this forum for months?
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I have said it before and will say it again, metacritic should be shot and killed.

look at all the 0/10 reviews. OK the game may not be perfect and I would agree that right now as of today 10 is overly ambitious as well, however thankfully the saner heads of games journalists with no axe to grind have shown that elite, right now may not yet be the finished article, but it gets more right than it gets wrong.

imo if it has to stay "users" should not be able to post scores, certainly not ones which effect the metacritic scores. Sometimes games publishers make the bone headed decision to link bonuses etc to metacritic scores....... to let people with ulterior motives post clearly nonsensical scores which could cost a dev their job is madness.

I agree I too am not objective either. I am, and always have been a huge elite fan, it it my fave game ever made and E:D carries the torch perfectly. I give it a 9, warts and all, but equally do not think I am balanced enough to have my "score" affect anything which is meant to be taken seriously either
 
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Sargon

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I don't get how Mr Whitehead can possibly say that the Sidewinder is "useful for practically nothing".... Right there he shows absolute ignorance and to me that is a disqualification for him to actually give an impartial review. As he obviously ignores the finer details of just how important human interaction is and that ship stats are just numbers with which one works with and not delimiters as in other point and click space games which I wont mention.
 

terminatahx

terminatahx
Defacto said:
Clearly FD bribed all the reviewers! This is the only possibility!

I've only played this game for 238 hours, and I didn't enjoy a single one of them! :D
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Professional Review sites today are a sham. Virtually all games today get excellent reviews, written by guys that barely played the game. If you want an honest review, user forums today are the most reliable. Here you get the good and the bad.
 

Antigonos

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Mad Mike said:
I have said it before and will say it again, metacritic should be shot and killed.

look at all the 0/10 reviews. OK the game may not be perfect and I would agree that right now as of today 10 is overly ambitious as well, however thankfully the saner heads of games journalists with no axe to grind have shown that elite, right now may not yet be the finished article, but it gets more right than it gets wrong.

imo if it has to stay "users" should not be able to post scores, certainly not ones which effect the metacritic scores. Sometimes games publishers make the bone headed decision to link bonuses etc to metacritic scores....... to let people with ulterior motives post clearly nonsensical scores which could cost a dev their job is madness.
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i agree. game is a 8/10. so all giving 10/10 are 2 points away, but the people giving 0/10 are 8 points away. 0/10 for me is a game which is not launching. All those 0/10 metacritic people are just mad.
 

terminatahx

terminatahx
Sargon said:
I don't get how Mr Whitehead can possibly say that the Sidewinder is "useful for practically nothing".... Right there he shows absolute ignorance and to me that is a disqualification for him to actually give an impartial review. As he obviously ignores the finer details of just how important human interaction is and that ship stats are just numbers with which one works with and not delimiters as in other point and click space games which I wont mention.
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Precisely. He said that because he hasn't played the game enough to know better. Sidewinders are formidable, in the hands of a skilled CMDR. Are those screen caps even his? I doubt it.
 

GibMeister

GibMeister
MarkSC said:
Excellent review. It echoes all of the praises and criticisms that we've had on this forum.
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I agreed with every word he said in the review (except Sidey isnt that bad, its actually good for a free ship), he has summarised gigabytes worth of posts here in a nice and to the point review. If David and his team read this review and act upon it as I am sure they will, then Elite will be a great game over the next 12 months.

There are some quick wins:
1. Empire, federation, independant etc systems have their own unique style of starports, their own voices, billboards, design of spaceships etc. It wouldn't take much effort to do this.
2. When in combat being attacked you should be able to emit a distress signal, so someone passing in the same system would see the distress signal and be able to drop in and help you, if you are stranded they could refuel/repair you or tow you?
3. I had hoped when i started the game I would be away from everyone else, I play solo as I dont want to be in a crowded space, it would be nice to run into a handful of real players but not loads of them. I play games on the PC because I am anti social! lol When I first join an online game I will make sure I have flown further away into the galaxy and am well away from the starting positions.
 
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terminatahx

terminatahx
Antigonos said:
i agree. game is a 8/10. so all giving 10/10 are 2 points away, but the people giving 0/10 are 8 points away. 0/10 for me is a game which is not launching. All those 0/10 metacritic people are just mad.
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Metacritic needs time to "cool down". Right now you have game haters and lovers screwing up the scoring with 0s and 10s. I don't have an issue with people giving whatever score they want, but I just think over time, the opinions will level off. Give it a few months and we'll see a more accurate reflection of the game's user popularity.
 

Antigonos

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terminatahx said:
Precisely. He said that because he hasn't played the game enough to know better. Sidewinders are formidable, in the hands of a skilled CMDR. Are those screen caps even his? I doubt it.
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though you must admit 90% of the players think that too, even after hours in the game ^^

i think Elite is to complex for many people to just grasp its possibilities. they complain about their basic sidewinder not being strong enough etc. and totally forget, that it can be upgraded and be really badass at the job you want it to do.
 
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