[STORY] Senator Torval publicly lies in her today's GalNet statement.

[rootsrat]

I read Senator Torval's statement on GalNet today, where she has spoke out against Aisling Duval, the heir's daughter.

(...)Duval speaks out against slavery, but she knows nothing of it. Look at our streets. We have no beggars. No graffiti. No one goes hungry. Our streets are safe.

Look at Federation. The girl's never been of course. People die of starvation despite their crippling taxes.

Well, Sentaor Zemina Torval apparently never has been to Beta-1 Tuncane system, where Empire Consulate owns about 80% of the businesses and services. And they asked me if I could haul some animal meat for them from Kutjalangai. For free! Why? Because the citizens of the Imperial Consulate were starving to death.

I leave that for your consideration next time when you will be choosing which side to join in the battle of Sorbago.

Fly safe, Commanders.

 

[Shepard]

I hate to be a party pooper, but I believe these facts have absolutely no connection. Senator Torval doesn't even have a clue that 80% of that consulate belongs to the Empire. And the condition that the consulate is in, starving and asking players to bring them food for free in return of some good graces of the consulate is the direct consequence of Empire's weak links inside their own government. They have so many systems under their hood that they are simply unable to take care of everything, everywhere. That's why they are asking occasional commander for food.

But isn't that a bit annoying? Doesn't empire have capital ships? Dont they even have a single shuttle on station to go get some food? Instead they would rather just beg every passer buy for food and yet they are still ugly and fat! I think that Empire in whole is just using everyone and everywhere. They are robbers and thiefs, that's who they are!

How can someone think anything good about the Empire that thinks about slavery as a normal thing as long as people are properly enslaved? Because they are so messed up in their head is one of the reasons why their subordinates have to beg for food! Shoot them on site, and not just with a hand gun. Tie them to a landing platform and blast them with the ship lasers! Rats need to be exterminated! Empire is an infestation of the Galaxy!

 

[Barking_Mad]

Down with Slavery, down with Capitalism.

 

[Rearden]

Down with stories that are completely disconnected from the game world.

Same thing happening on the Fed story. They setup checkpoints, they bombed farms and ... Nothing. I get the same amount of onion heads as before.

It is as just an excuse to setup some glorified leaderboards called conflict zones that will then decide what ending the story gets.

And we lost offline mode for this!

Down with Slavery, down with Capitalism.

 

[Questionable Ethics]

animal meat

Down with Slavery, down with Capitalism.

Long live New Zealand Surrealism!

SOCIALISM: You have 2 cows. The State nationalizes one and gives it to your neighbour.
COMMUNISM: You have 2 cows. The State takes both and gives you some milk.
FASCISM: You have 2 cows. The State takes both and sells you some milk.
NAZISM: You have 2 cows. The State takes both and shoots you.
BUREAUCRATISM: You have 2 cows. The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then throws the milk away...
TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income.
SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

LEHMAN BROTHERS VENTURE CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publically listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at Bear Stearns, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States , leaving you with nine cows. No balance sheet provided with the release. The public then buys your bull.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. Later, you hire a consultant to analyze why the cow has dropped dead.
A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike, organize a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.
A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. You then create a clever cow cartoon image called 'Cowkimon' and market it worldwide.
A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You re-engineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.
AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows, but you don't know where they are. You decide to have lunch.
A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 2 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.
A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows. None of them belong to you. You charge the owners for storing them.
A CHINESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You have 300 people milking them. You claim that you have full employment, and high bovine productivity. You add melamine and arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.
AN INDIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them.
A BRITISH CORPORATION: You have two cows. Both are mad.
AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. Business seems pretty good. You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.
A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION: You have two cows. The one on the left looks very attractive...

QE

PS Sorry, I couldn't resist...

 

[Patrick_68000]

Down with Slavery, down with Capitalism.

Yes, the one does not go without the other

 

[EAGLE 5]

Well that escalated quickly.

 

[dlocke]

Down with stories that are completely disconnected from the game world.

Same thing happening on the Fed story. They setup checkpoints, they bombed farms and ... Nothing. I get the same amount of onion heads as before.

It is as just an excuse to setup some glorified leaderboards called conflict zones that will then decide what ending the story gets.

And we lost offline mode for this!

What exactly does offline mode have to do with any of this.. post somewhere else if you want to try to get another I'm ticked because no offline.

 

[Barking_Mad]

I go to my interstellar bank and ask for money to buy a cow. They give me loan. Then pesky space traders flood the market with milk and I can't pay for my house and end up living on the street. Your trading has consequences! Or might if there are bugs to fix

 

[dlocke]

Imperial slaves are indentured servants that have sold themselves into slavery to repay debts.

 

[Rearden]

What exactly does offline mode have to do with any of this.. post somewhere else if you want to try to get another I'm ticked because no offline.

if you don't understand that this "dynamism" is the reason offline was ditched I would suggest taking off the fanboy glasses next time you play the game.

If you think this is actually dynamic then there may be no cure already

 

[dlocke]

if you don't understand that this "dynamism" is the reason offline was ditched I would suggest taking off the fanboy glasses next time you play the game.

If you think this is actually dynamic then there may be no cure already

The slave revolt on Sorbago would not be happening in an offline version and the game has only been out for what 6 days and we already have some content that was not there on the 16th. has nothing to do with Fanboy, I appreciate the efforts of the game for what they are. It's time to get over the offline mode issue... not going to happen anytime soon, play what we have or don't, but quit crying about it.

 

[shrinkshooter]

So you're saying FD removed offline mode to force people online to act as the organic cogs of a 'living universe'?

 

[DYSEQTA]

Down with Slavery, down with Capitalism.

Up with the Alliance and Communism!!

 

[Aticain]

Imperial slaves are indentured servants that have sold themselves into slavery to repay debts.

Just as they should. The people of the Empire have honor. We all have a duty to our family name to take responsibility for our actions and wealth. The people of the Federation have no respect for others, and seek only wealth and fame to their own name.

 

[Rall]

I read Senator Torval's statement on GalNet today, where she has spoke out against Aisling Duval, the heir's daughter.



Well, Sentaor Zemina Torval apparently never has been to Beta-1 Tuncane system, where Empire Consulate owns about 80% of the businesses and services. And they asked me if I could haul some animal meat for them from Kutjalangai. For free! Why? Because the citizens of the Imperial Consulate were starving to death.

I leave that for your consideration next time when you will be choosing which side to join in the battle of Sorbago.

Fly safe, Commanders.

Senator Torval has been very kind to me in my stay in LTT 9810 - she raised me from a serf to a Baron. I will repay that kindness with Loyalty.

(It's nothing to do with the enourmous profits I've taking slave trading, nope nothing at all.)

 

[Rearden]

The slave revolt on Sorbago would not be happening in an offline version and the game has only been out for what 6 days and we already have some content that was not there on the 16th. has nothing to do with Fanboy, I appreciate the efforts of the game for what they are. It's time to get over the offline mode issue... not going to happen anytime soon, play what we have or don't, but quit crying about it.

I'll type it again for you, maybe this time the bold helps

Down with stories that are completely disconnected from the game world.

Same thing happening on the Fed story. They setup checkpoints, they bombed farms and ... Nothing. I get the same amount of onion heads as before.

It is as just an excuse to setup some glorified leaderboards called conflict zones that will then decide what ending the story gets.

And we lost offline mode for this!

Hope that wasn't too many characters.

So you're saying FD removed offline mode to force people online to act as the organic cogs of a 'living universe'?

No, if they did that it would be fine. But there is no "living universe" just a bunch of random stuff you can ignore without any impact whatsoever in your gameplay at best, at worse completely immersion breaking stories that contradict everything you actually see in the game.

Maybe its because english ain't my first language but I am pretty sure something is either lost in translation or you guys actually haven't bothered to follow these events and are just talking for the sake of talking

 

[Pekka]

A few days ago I was at Sol and the Federal Congress offered me a mission to bring food to Earth, because the population was starving.

The Empire and the Federation are both rotten to the core.

 

[Shepard]

if you don't understand that this "dynamism" is the reason offline was ditched I would suggest taking off the fanboy glasses next time you play the game.

If you think this is actually dynamic then there may be no cure already

The slave revolt on Sorbago would not be happening in an offline version and the game has only been out for what 6 days and we already have some content that was not there on the 16th. has nothing to do with Fanboy, I appreciate the efforts of the game for what they are. It's time to get over the offline mode issue... not going to happen anytime soon, play what we have or don't, but quit crying about it.

Slavery war is a dynamic content. But the time that this content unrolls is very slow. I wouldn't be surprised that FD will have to unroll it manually because 1- there are not enough players participating to balance the war towards specific faction in a timely manner and 2 - it's very possible that logic behind the content is broken considering the details of Lugh system player driven event that is not going anywhere even though it's been affected by about a hundred of players during several days.

There was similar war zones tested in Beta and we didn't see any other game play mechanic than one capital ship and 2 faction space ships busting each other's chassis day and night without any progression on the AI part. I am eager to see what would be next stage of this slavery war event, but I am afraid there won't be stages. It's good if we get to completely destroy a capital ship.

I think Devs hoped that this big event will attract attention of many players and outcome will be shifted faster, but they failed to realize that players spawned In many different systems far from the event their ships are not good enough to jump to Sarbo, a lot of people went solo to trade their millions unwilling to be bothered by PvP wtc. I wish FD would aim for mini events rather.

So yeah the event part itself is very static if you look at it from the perspective of what is going on between two major factions in game in that one speicfic warzone. The dynamic part happens behind the veil of programming. The variables are shifting towards specific outcome except they are shifting extremely slow and may require manual intervention by the devs to start next leg of the event if there is one.

 

[EAGLE 5]

Just as they should. The people of the Empire have honor. We all have a duty to our family name to take responsibility for our actions and wealth. The people of the Federation have no respect for others, and seek only wealth and fame to their own name.

Don't really see anything wrong with that. People do best when acting in their own best self interest. That's just how economics works out in the end. Question is... Do you believe the imperial line that slavery is the answer or do you go out and try and find out for yourself? I will always choose the latter. So I'll be helping those slaves be free which is far better than being institutionalized.