[STORY] Senator Torval publicly lies in her today's GalNet statement.

[Rearden]

Slavery war is a dynamic content. But the time that this content unrolls is very slow. I wouldn't be surprised that FD will have to unroll it manually because 1- there are not enough players participating to balance the war towards specific faction in a timely manner and 2 - it's very possible that logic behind the content is broken considering the details of Lugh system player driven event that is not going anywhere even though it's been affected by about a hundred of players during several days.

There was similar war zones tested in Beta and we didn't see any other game play mechanic than one capital ship and 2 faction space ships busting each other's chassis day and night without any progression on the AI part. I am eager to see what would be next stage of this slavery war event, but I am afraid there won't be stages. It's good if we get to completely destroy a capital ship.

I think Devs hoped that this big event will attract attention of many players and outcome will be shifted faster, but they failed to realize that players spawned In many different systems far from the event their ships are not good enough to jump to Sarbo, a lot of people went solo to trade their millions unwilling to be bothered by PvP wtc. I wish FD would aim for mini events rather.

So yeah the event part itself is very static if you look at it from the perspective of what is going on between two major factions in game in that one speicfic warzone. The dynamic part happens behind the veil of programming. The variables are shifting towards specific outcome except they are shifting extremely slow and may require manual intervention by the devs to start next leg of the event if there is one.

Ok so here is where we disagree: You think having a leaderboard to decide the outcome of a story is "dynamic" content - I don't.

I'll focus on the onion head story as it is the one I am following more closely:

1) Feds nuke farms on Panem with admitted collateral damage
2) Feds introduce checkpoints in the entire Kappa Furnacis system
3) Feds deploy several capital ships around Panem to stop the production of onion heads

And in your world of "dynamism" this translates into a conflict zone? I suppose you are expecting the farmers to bring the pitch forks to vanquish the Federal navy just to put something unexpected on that whole dynamism thing?

Sorry for expecting that as a smuggler of onion heads I would actually get stopped by the cops.
Sorry for expecting that the markets around Panem would not have food after their farms were bombed (although admittedly prices did go up - for everything, not just food)
Sorry for expecting that the market would be more inclined to buy weapons under the current circumstances than land enrichment systems
Sorry for expecting that Panem should be issuing missions to kill Feds instead of random bounty hunters light years away

And sorry especially for the sarcasm, as obviously who would need any of that when we can get a conflict zone, shoot each other up and then add all the points to see what happens? Uuuuuh, I can feel the dynamism down my spine right now.

 

[Hexen]

We all know that Federation citizens are so poor that they consider toxic waste a delicacy and can feed whole family for a week with just one canister of it. Empire is no better. Their "sophisticated" ships have slaves under the decks that manually propel said vessels like some rodents in a wheel. The Alliance on the other hand is a shining beacon of hope and pillar of goodness among such grim factions like Federation and Empire.

 

[rootsrat]

I would really appreciate if people that started discussing Off Line mode issue did not hijack my thread. That topic was/is being discussed elsewhere. This thread is to discuss the in-game events that are occurring in Empire.

Thanks.

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And I have another proof that Torval is lying, here, from 5 minutes ago



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A few days ago I was at Sol and the Federal Congress offered me a mission to bring food to Earth, because the population was starving.

The Empire and the Federation are both rotten to the core.

I couldn't agree more! I'm just heading towards Alliance for some peace and quiet

 

[Rearden]

*** Edited ***

Sent PM to OP instead

 

[Doomus]

Uuuuuh, I can feel the dynamism down my spine right now.

That's probably just the butthurt.

 

[Daeron]

The heir(ess) must be a Duval, all other considerations aside. We can't turn the Empire into the late Roman one, and just put some random figure on the throne, so they can be assassinated after a year. I say this, because I am a humanist at heart. I care for people! Even pretenders! Put one pretender up there, and it will never end. But the Empire might end! Look to history!

We also can't abandon *imperial* slavery of course, it would ruin the economy and lead to fewer warships. That would be extremely unwise in a world where the strong eat the weak. There are some out there who would love the Empire to turn into a new "Byzantium", besieged and alone, without forces of their own. Never again! Preserve the bloodline, then observe tradition. And then we can talk! Before that time, only action speaks! Stagnation *will* arrive with any pretender. We must expand, and preserve what we have. Or else we die off slowly. That is how it always goes. This is no different. Anyone *not* a Duval, must be stopped. By any means, I am afraid. Hopefully in a mild and gentle way!

Now I must smile, and hide the dagger!

 

[kamenjar]

NVM/Deleted. Don't want to derail.

 

[EAGLE 5]

The heir(ess) must be a Duval, all other considerations aside. We can't turn the Empire into the late Roman one, and just put some random figure on the throne, so they can be assassinated after a year. I say this, because I am a humanist at heart. I care for people! Even pretenders! Put one pretender up there, and it will never end. But the Empire might end! Look to history!

We also can't abandon *imperial* slavery of course, it would ruin the economy and lead to fewer warships. That would be extremely unwise in a world where the strong eat the weak. There are some out there who would love the Empire to turn into a new "Byzantium", besieged and alone, without forces of their own. Never again! Preserve the bloodline, then observe tradition. And then we can talk! Before that time, only action speaks! Stagnation *will* arrive with any pretender. We must expand, and preserve what we have. Or else we die off slowly. That is how it always goes. This is no different. Anyone *not* a Duval, must be stopped. By any means, I am afraid. Hopefully in a mild and gentle way!

Now I must smile, and hide the dagger!

Correction Dareon.. Die off quickly'

Everyone knows that if you take away the whole imperial lineage farce and slavery there is no empire. I wouldn't rest too easy knowing my way of life is strictly dependent on two things that can easily be taken away. Time will tell here.

 

[Daeron]

I stand corrected.

The Emperor is setting up Arissa as the new Empress at any rate. All other claimants should thus be as illegimate as they get, so they can most kindly get out of it, while we are all on such good terms! Unless something unusual should happen the next 30 days. I don't like unusual very much though!

 

[EAGLE 5]

It appears to me Patreus and Torval have their own ideas about the definition of legitimate succession. To say they both have engaged in some self-promotion would be the understatement of the century.

 

[Vyvian]

I read Senator Torval's statement on GalNet today, where she has spoke out against Aisling Duval, the heir's daughter.



Well, Sentaor Zemina Torval apparently never has been to Beta-1 Tuncane system, where Empire Consulate owns about 80% of the businesses and services. And they asked me if I could haul some animal meat for them from Kutjalangai. For free! Why? Because the citizens of the Imperial Consulate were starving to death.

I leave that for your consideration next time when you will be choosing which side to join in the battle of Sorbago.

Fly safe, Commanders.

We thank you Commander for your help of the people of Beta-1 Tuncane. It is a worthy thing you have done but I feel you are missing the Seantor's point.

Yes we occasionally have famines, occasionally people are starving, it is a big empire and the logistis to keep it all running smootly are immense. Sometimes due to a small failure on our part, unforseen events or acts of sabotage by outside parties the system breaks down and people may go without food for a short time.

The point is when this occurs, the people of the Empire know that they can rely on the generosity of its members to fix the problem quickly. Each of us feels honourbound to help each and everyone of our members in times of trouble whether they be princes, senators, merchants or slaves.

What you have done by donating that animal meat is that you have shown that you have the nobility, honour and kindness to be a citizen of the Emire. Will you not join us?

 

[rootsrat]

Will you not join us?

The recent events show that there is as much honour in the Empire as there is dishonour and corruption. I am sorry, but I will NOT "join you". Thanks for the offer though. However:

I stand corrected.

The Emperor is setting up Arissa as the new Empress at any rate. All other claimants should thus be as illegimate as they get, so they can most kindly get out of it, while we are all on such good terms! Unless something unusual should happen the next 30 days. I don't like unusual very much though!

It appears to me Patreus and Torval have their own ideas about the definition of legitimate succession. To say they both have engaged in some self-promotion would be the understatement of the century.

I am watching the events closely, I like to know what's going on in the politics. You never know what opportunities will arise when the top dogs jump at each other's throats, ha! Nice move by good old Hengist though, I give him that. He may be old and sick, but he certainly isn't stupid. His son would either bring the Empire to an end or Senator Blaine would become a new Emperor within the next 5 years I reckon.

 

[Ayerc]

The recent events show that there is as much honour in the Empire as there is dishonour and corruption. I am sorry, but I will NOT "join you". Thanks for the offer though.

Imperial Citizenship is not for the feint of heart. There is significant honor in claiming what's yours, and even more in holding that power from others. Emperor Hengist's frail state and subsequent scramble to keep power within his bloodline are clear indications of his inability to rule.

I cannot, as an Imperial citizen, support such weakness. Senator Torval for Empress!

 

[Daeron]

Imperial Citizenship is not for the feint of heart. There is significant honor in claiming what's yours, and even more in holding that power from others. Emperor Hengist's frail state and subsequent scramble to keep power within his bloodline are clear indications of his inability to rule.

I cannot, as an Imperial citizen, support such weakness. Senator Torval for Empress!

You call yourself an Imperial citizen, and yet turn away from your own Emperor?

Age is the same for all, it cannot be bypassed by law or decree, the ability and *right* to rule, is another matter entirely. To correctly assign a proper successor after so many decades of prosperity and peace, is a sign of great leadership, a grand effort to preserve the future, as well as our past! Our Eminent Emperor want what is best for us, and removing Harold from succession was selflessly done for our own good!

And since His Most Imperial Majesty is stil alive, you should, as a good Imperial Citizen, make sure his will is done! For to not support the Very Living Emperor, makes you the opposite of a loyal citizen. We have many names for those, none of them very flattering! Look to the Emperor, as is your duty! Look away from the pretenders, and Bask in His Glory once more! For that is what makes you Imperial, after all!

 

[MACMAN86]

I can only guess all this politics is leading to war zones (I hope) in which after a faction has honoured your allegiance will lend you various fighters for a full out war in a system between factions. Plus I hope it can handle all the real players that take it on at that time and not just 32 local players.
Nice game dynamics only if there are percs like that without risks of loss.

 

[rootsrat]

I'm sorry but I have to say this... I asked about this already elsewhere, but NONE of the imperial citizens was kind enough to reply to me.

You talk about honour. You love the subject. Honour this, honour that, honour the Emperor. It is widely known that having an unpaid debt is seen as utterly dishonourable - an honourable Imperial citizen would sell themselves into slavery to clear a debt they couldn't otherwise afford. I wonder how many of you, the honourable citizens of the Empire, would not take the loan (which would be an utterly dishonourable thing to do) should your ship was destroyed and you've had no money to cover the insurance cost. Would you be back into the loaned Sidewinder? Or would you sacrificed your honour in the name of material possessions?

I leave you with this matter to think about and I go to get me some nice cup of Eranin coffee.

Good day, Commanders.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Up with the Alliance and Communism!!

I think you'll find the is a Anarcho-syndicalist commune.

 

[Vyvian]

Up with the Alliance and Communism!!

This just seems really grey and boring. Lots of long caucus meetings talking about finding middle ground and respecting all peoples' feelings.

And not the same as this:

I think you'll find the is a Anarcho-syndicalist commune.

This makes me think more of lots of wild, drunken, possibly naked, parties and firing guns into the air to punctuate peoples' sentences during speeches.

I may be a loyal member of the Empire but I do like to spend my holidays with the Anarcho-Syndicalists.