Are all known stars supposed to be in the game?

I thought the answer to the question was yes.

So I was just reading an interesting article about this star (HL Tauri) with a large protoplanetary disk:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/s...nets-waiting-to-be-born.html?ref=science&_r=0
Sounds like a really cool place to explore!

Unfortunately searches for HL Tauri in the game come up empty. :(
What FD has created so far with the 400 billion star galaxy is mind bogglingly amazing. So I'm not complaining here, just wondering...
Was HL Tauri just missed? Or maybe the universe isn't complete yet? Will additional stars/systems be added over time as the scientific community discovers them?
 
The game is built using NASA's data on visible systems, if I remember right, and as the database is updated, the game plugs in the new stuff. If this is a recent discovery, it probably will make it's way in to the game sooner or later :)
 
I thought the answer to the question was yes.

So I was just reading an interesting article about this star (HL Tauri) with a large protoplanetary disk:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/s...nets-waiting-to-be-born.html?ref=science&_r=0
Sounds like a really cool place to explore!

Unfortunately searches for HL Tauri in the game come up empty. :(
What FD has created so far with the 400 billion star galaxy is mind bogglingly amazing. So I'm not complaining here, just wondering...
Was HL Tauri just missed? Or maybe the universe isn't complete yet? Will additional stars/systems be added over time as the scientific community discovers them?

During gammer I headed to SOL and started putting together some constellations to see how accurate it was, I found a couple of mistakes but was very impressed overall.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65983&highlight=
 
It's only the star-map you see in the background that is real.. Sure SOL is handcrafted, but I highly doubt that the other PLAYABLE systems than SOL and Alpha Centauri are real..
 
It's only the star-map you see in the background that is real.. Sure SOL is handcrafted, but I highly doubt that the other PLAYABLE systems than SOL and Alpha Centauri are real..
You dont know too much about this game do you?
 
It's only the star-map you see in the background that is real.. Sure SOL is handcrafted, but I highly doubt that the other PLAYABLE systems than SOL and Alpha Centauri are real..

Arcturus is real. In fact I can usually see it as the first star that shows up if the horizon is clear.
Sirius is also real.
I Bootis is real.
A lot of them are real. They then fill in the gaps based on density with procedurally named stars.
The nebula are also dropped in.
The largest star cant be found but I have a feeling it has been renamed to a new name as have many of the systems in the game. Some story based systems have in their description "Has an ancient name of _____" and is some star that we all know.

I would like confirmation on that from FD whether UY Scuti is in the game or whether it could be added to its appropriate location.
 
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You dont know too much about this game do you?

What are you talking about? I'm just stating what Braben said himself about the star-map being real. They never mentioned the playable systems

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Arcturus is real. In fact I can usually see it as the first star that shows up if the horizon is clear.
Sirius is also real.
I Bootis is real.
A lot of them are real. They then fill in the gaps based on density with procedurally named stars.
The nebula are also dropped in.
The largest star cant be found but I have a feeling it has been renamed to a new name as have many of the systems in the game. Some story based systems have in their description "Has an ancient name of _____" and is some star that we all know.

I would like confirmation on that from FD whether UY Scuti is in the game or whether it could be added to its appropriate location.

Yeah I forgot to mention Sirius.. It's hard to know what's real and what's not
 
There are quite a few though, and its not just the local systems. I think all constellation stars that are within the milky way are visible. The stars inside Barnard's Loop are available.
I think at best, all the common stars visible in a city lit sky are there, some historical ones, and then the gaps fill in with a combo of procedural and story-based.
 
What are you talking about? I'm just stating what Braben said himself about the star-map being real. They never mentioned the playable systems

I think that the material you're quoting has become a little jumbled in your interpretation, that's not what Braben has said. Please cite the material that he stated this oddness in.
 
I think that the material you're quoting has become a little jumbled in your interpretation, that's not what Braben has said. Please cite the material that he stated this oddness in.

I might misunderstood what he meant. Maybe he did mean the playable systems. That makes me wonder where they get all 400 billion names from.. It is said that most of theese systems are randomly generated, right? So how can that be? I'm just curious myself, and I'm open to suggestions.

EDIT: I'm looking for the material. Give me a moment to find it

EDIT 2: I didn't find the exact video, but I found a video where he's stating that the most of the game is generated procedually: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCnsXE6Zi2E
In other words, it's hard to know what's real and what's not. He also says every single star in the night-sky is real. That's the ingame horizon background he's talking about I guess
 
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VY Canis Majoris is real. That was the biggest star at one point. I think it's second now.
Alderbaran is real.
Pollux is real.
Betelgeuse too.
:|

Did I forget Sagittarius a*? Super Massive Blackhole, yeah, that's real, and also in the game.
 
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There are lots of real stars in the game.

However, some rather famous examples are missing, like UY Scuti, which is currently the biggest star known to us.
 

Sargon

Banned
There are close to 150000 precisely placed stars, as for the planets surrounding them, those in their majority are procedural. With the exception of very few including the Solar System of course.
The rest of the 400billion are based on the stellar cloud masses and placed procedurally to fit the density of the clouds. In other words, at least all of the majorly known stars are there, magnitude 7 and up.
Which includes all of the known ones, Antares, Aldebaran, Vega, Sirius, Alpha Centauri, Betelgeuse, Mintaka, etc etc. If you go to Sol you can pretty much make out all of the known constellations barring a few stars the most notable ones have been placed specifically.

We have in our hands what is possibly the closest 3d model of our Milky Way galaxy to ever be playable.
 
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Yeah I forgot to mention Sirius.. It's hard to know what's real and what's not

It's extremely easy to know what's real. If a star has a name out of a star catalogue (HIP 1234, HR 1234, whatever) or the name of an actual star (Mintaka, Saiph) then it's real. If it has a name like COL 285 SECTOR AB-A D-12 then it isn't.
 

Harbinger

Volunteer Moderator
There are close to 1500 precisely placed stars

I believe there are actually 160,000 real stars in game (all manually inputted by Michael Brookes) but they come from multiple catalogues and may not use the most common name. You'll likely have to research for alternate namings to some stars in order to find them.
 
The stars are all taken for real data. Is it complete? Probably not. Some star system names may not match the catalogs you look at. There are stars with multiple name references, how the devs decided on these names, I'm not sure. There are Arabic names, also by constellation... such as alpha, beta, gamma.. etc prefixed by the constellation name, and numerous stellar catalog refereces. 2Mass is one such catalog, for example. Stars in an actual constellation can be spread out over vast distances and are not always localized within the same region of space. Constellations are an artificial abstraction as seen from Earth. So this is why one star in Bootis could be 100ly away, while another star could be 300ly away, intermixed with stars not in the constellation. The constellation stars tend to be brighter, thus visible from earth, while the other nearby counterparts may be less luminous..and not have more formal names. The human eye at best can see down to magnitude 6 under a perfect dark sky.. which is not very far distance wise on the galactic scale.

From what I read.. and I may not be entirely correct here: Frontier uses some sort of algorithm based upon known scientific data/theory... and some guesses/interpretation to make it practical for a game. Every system starts with a seed, from which it is procedurally generated. The seed is the star type, the number of stars, their masses, their relative position, and add in a cocktail of physics concepts. The game then makes a 'best guess' at how a certain system 'might' form, assuming said theory is complete. Which it is not. It essentially seeds the system, then evolves it to the current star date of the game. Thus you get planets moving in orbits and position based upon the current date/time. Everything does move.. and consistently.

I hear they may be populating 'known' systems, such as the many hundreds of systems found to have exoplanets in recent years. So besides the seed data mentioned, they have the ability to custom overlay systems with known true to life data. How far they plan to go with this? Who knows. It probably entirely depends on interest and how long the game and development can remain supported (profitable).

I am quite impressed with what they have done! FYI, some background. I studied cosmology (astro/physics) at university. Though I don't work in the field I'm an avid hobbiest. I observe and do astro-photography, and this stuff perks my ears up every time!

Elite gives a great human understandable view of how vast our galaxy is, and how many stars are really out there. Still think we are alone? Our galaxy is only average. Smaller than average for the most part.. and there are estimated to be about 100-200 billion other galaxies of all shapes and sizes out there in the known universe. Many far far larger than our own.
 
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