Yet you go and talk like someone with that hopeless mentality. You don't do it because it's illegal and against the rules? That's your first thought of it - not because it would be wrong to do so? Keep digging your hole.
How do you stop players from simply blowing up other players for the hell of it?
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lets take call of duty as an example. it has a single player mode and a multi player mode. in single player you get a story and some missions and it's all very normal in that regard. in multi-player is it as you point out solely about the PvP.
elite is quite different, it's like frontier took the single player game with it's story and missions then merged it with the multiplayer pvp side of the game. it's a bold move and one that is generating a ton of friction as 2 very different groups of players meet for perhaps the first time in some cases
eve is kinda similar though there is more structure to keep the 2 groups in different areas. i'd played games like quake, unreal tournament and halflife deathmatch before i played eve, so it's not as if pvp was new to me. but eve was the first rude awakening i had when a game i'd been playing single player style (in safe space fighting NPC's) suddenly pitted me against 2 players. i had wandered into dangerous space and 2 players attacked me. i panicked, pressed all the wrong buttons and neither made any effective move towards escaping or towards fighting back. i stayed in safe space for 2 years after that horrible loss.
in elite it's like every system is dangerous, so i fly accordingly, expecting to get jumped by a player and shot at for no reason. i've read the rules and i click on open knowing i'm nothing but a potential target for anyone looking to shoot at something other than an NPC.
and i see nothing wrong with playing solo. now that i'm used to pvp i play open because it's a real buzz trying to escape from another player. that's the sort of entertainment you just cant get from a single player game and that is why open pvp can be a good thing
Yep, it has been this way all along. So anyone doing it for rating is wasting their time, because they won't gain any rank from it.
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EVE is better than ELITE at the moment and offers *so much more* than what ELITE currently has. But ELITE offers fighter craft gameplay, so I prefer it.
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Yet you're apparently unable to deal with anything unless it's explicitly set down in some set of rules and think that anything that isn't is therefore acceptable.
Nice theory but griefers are there to grief, not to roleplay.
It's very rational when you know that if you lose the initiative (like for instance trying to type something in chat), you will very probably lose the fight. This is how it works in DayZ at the moment. It's already a proven concept.
Remiel
Banned
What mentality/hole? I'm just playing a videogame, you seem to think there's some kind of morality scale attached to shooting pixels. You also seem to think that by questioning my morality, it's gonna make me think twice about shooting players whenever the hell I want. Well, what you think of me is entirely your problem, which means it's not mine. You've given me literally no reason that I shouldn't do it.
reasons to kill you:
-> you are transporting a hazardous material
-> you might be transporting it to an oposing factions market
-> you might influence the market price
-> you might have guns, and use your cargo as a diversion
-> the player might feel territorial about it
-> your ship is fit in a way that offends the pirate (for example: if you have no shields, thats a death sentence if you run into me).
-> traders get easy mode. as they get money left and right, while combat pilots don't, combat pilots have a high level of frustration. Someone has to pay for that.
what can you do:
a) don't get interdicted, meaning get better at avoiding those
b) play solo (...)
c) use ships that can fight back
d) RUN.
e) convince FD to create more entertaining combat content.
Remiel
Banned
No, it's not. You would assume that someone shooting at you would just as soon hack your account for an advantage? How is that rational? Are you a mind reader?
The wanted system seems to be a very effective solution.
You're playing a game with other real people, which isn't quite the same as shooting pixels in a single player game. If you don't give a crap about that that then don't complain when decent people look down on you (and if it doesn't bother you then why are you in this thread?)
i don't see how, 6K for a kill, that's easy money to make in almost any profession once you have got rolling.
i think the main reason there isn't much ganking going on is because most players just want to fly about and not shoot at each other
You are misinterpreting me. I am chiefly talking about cheat hacks. Invincibility, teleports, invisibility, unlimited shields, unlimited resources. That sort of thing. The more client-side a game is, the easier it is to pull off. Stealing the account of someone else by means of hacking is of course a possibility, but not really one that falls under the existing topic. It is rational to assume it will happen because it always happens in every online game where it is allowed to happen.
Remiel
Banned
Or are they playing the game with me? Quite a conundrum, that one. Anyway, bottom line is, solo mode is where you go if you don't wanna play with others. I do, I like having a high bounty to encourage people to pick fights with me, and I enjoy picking fights with others. I'm in it specifically for the challenge of engaging in dogfights with human beings, not AI. If people choose not to fight, then they die. It's that simple. I also enjoy the irony of you thinking you're a decent person, while verbally abusing me by calling me things I'm not and assuming I'm beneath you. You love pointing out how beneath you I am, don't you.
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I don't think the OP was a victim of griefing, the guy who killed him had every right to as it is part of the game. I don't think that open play should be changed either as I like the fact that these situations can happen. I got interdicted and robbed yesterday buy a RL player, it was fun and exciting.
One thing I do strongly disagree with though is all the people telling others 'well go play solo then or private group'. They don't understand that some people may want to play online to meet new other players but not pvp?? They can't do that in solo and the private groups can only get so big. In a game which has the scale of our beloved game, your not going to be meeting half as many new people in a group as you would in open.
One thing I do strongly disagree with though is all the people telling others 'well go play solo then or private group'. They don't understand that some people may want to play online to meet new other players but not pvp?? They can't do that in solo and the private groups can only get so big. In a game which has the scale of our beloved game, your not going to be meeting half as many new people in a group as you would in open.
Remiel
Banned
Then they are going to have to accept by being in open mode that the chance of being attacked by randoms exists.
Its not on your list of things to do, so I am just wondering if dropping some of my cargo might help me at all?
Sooo... someone plays a game with a significant combat dynamic and complains when he gets shot to bits./thread
Aye, it's been keeping me from my work for hours now.
Wish I had some popcorn