In that case then, let's get rid of insurance all together.
That will sort the men from the boys?
Wasn't the original this way, you get killed, you are back in your starter ship?
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Game is too CRUEL
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In that case then, let's get rid of insurance all together.
That will sort the men from the boys?
Wasn't the original this way, you get killed, you are back in your starter ship?
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Lestat
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Um you can buy escape capsule. LOL.
daan2002
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Lestat
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I not I waiting for Iron man mode.now now lets now get carried away
Ah now I remember, but you didn't get your ship back, you got a tiny lil thing?
Well you are doing a pretty good job now, aren't you?
Eh... I've done it too, mostly on accident because I wasn't paying attention to the cost of the goods I bought. Even after being used to play EVE... Ended up going over my budget safe point and had to fly without insurance. I got lucky I guess... /shrug
It was pretty exciting, though. Made the trade grind seem almost not boring.
It was pretty exciting, though. Made the trade grind seem almost not boring.
Here's the thing, if you hadn't made that mistake, this thread wouldn't even exist...and you'd still be flying around in that type 7 (with your e-pride intact) and still be praising the game.
And what does "refusing to waste more time" mean ? Nobody forced you, right ? You didn't enjoy the time you spent ?
All of a sudden you realize that quality family time always beats quality gaming time ?
Sorry man, you wanna rage quit ? Well, do it then.
Don't blame the game for it though, you already admitted that you knew better.
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I feel with you (OP). The same happened to me too 2 weeks ago. Of course all the smartasses saying that thats ok and the game is hard etc. all have the same experience. But it's game design. Period. It's same as levelling a toon up to level 50 and then get pushed back to 1 to start grinding up again. Could be done a lot better, for example with pre-paid insurance instead of that surprise-bill.
Just because you do not agree with a game design decision, does not make it '' design, it just makes it a design decision that you do not agree with.
However, FDev have at least given you the tools and the chance to soften the blow of a loss, by keeping enough money for a ship rebuy around and even telling you the amount of money you need for that rebuy. They also leave it up to you and your decisions to just forego that rebuy cost for the possible short term goal of a few thousand credits more in trading profit and your impatience in buying a new ship and you are then punish accordingly. Even then you are still often better off than someone starting completely fresh, as your NPC influence ratings stay the same and you might even have one or two other ships around.
Off the top of my head, there are many games that have modes or design decisions that are as punishing or even more punishing than ED. Almost every rougelike game ever (I'm talking strictly about the turn based rpg dungeon crawls here) will punish you with permadeath on making a mistake and some of those are nowadays so involved and long that it can take hours or tens of hours that you poured into your character before he died. Similarly the hardcore mode on the Diablo games, you make one mistake, one wrong call, you are dead. DayZ and Eve have been mentioned, no insurance cushion there, you die, you start afresh (or almost afresh). Ironman modes on the UFO (X-Com) games will make it so that each decision you make is saved and non-revertable. You make your whole experienced squad die because of bad tactical decisions? Start from the beginning.
So, all things considered, ED is still a very fair game in that it does tell you the exact amount of money you need to keep around to keep your ship and its equipment, even if your current one should blow up. If you decide to ignore that value in your info panel, then, at least for me, everything that does happen to you is your own fault and it was in your hands to avoid the situation you are in.
Remember, if you risk everything, you also might lose everything.
Play it safe, fly safe and you will never have to encounter this problem.
Because you have been given a FREE ship to replace the one you lost, at great expense to the pilots federation I might add, have you seen those guys accounts, its a mess
Lestat
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Not sure on Elite 2 or 3 but on Elite 1 you did get your ship back. You had to buy a new escape capsule.
Well, "not your fault" is that you lost your ship and cargo, BUT... sorry dude, but it totally was your fault that you didn't think of having enough credits for insurance, in my opinion. I never leave and never have left station without enough credits for insurance... again and again people do this mistake that I am myself paranoid about. I have not once lost high budget ship and im still paranoid about it. It amazes me that some of you are not paranoid about it.
Bye, though I bet you will be back in expansion or two
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It wouldn't surprise me if the chance of being interdicted by a powerful foe is actually higher if your dumb enough to fly without enough money to cover insurance. This really is page one of the pilots manual!
Snakebite
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He should have kept sufficient cash reserves for his insurance. If he had been playing since beta then he would have well been aware of this...
I thought it was written in the game description: Only for masochists No?
No?
sorry to see you go back it's not a "maybe my own fault" but definitely. This will be a bit harsh but as you've been playing since beta you should have known to keep money back for your insurance and having to "start again" is your own fault.
If you were a new player I could have shown some symphony but I'm sorry but I can't in this case. Hopefully you'll come back to the game and enjoy it again.
If you were a new player I could have shown some symphony but I'm sorry but I can't in this case. Hopefully you'll come back to the game and enjoy it again.
bye gitface, i feel your pain but ...
so brand new t7 and a full cargo leaving 2900cr over and an unexpected and catastrophic loss. yes i think i would be pretty hacked off for a couple of days and wouldnt want to play the game eva, eva, eva again. probably wouldnt do a rant here though because i wouldnt want to appear a complete divot in front of my peers. then i would enjoy the challenge of building it all up again and doing it better!
so brand new t7 and a full cargo leaving 2900cr over and an unexpected and catastrophic loss. yes i think i would be pretty hacked off for a couple of days and wouldnt want to play the game eva, eva, eva again. probably wouldnt do a rant here though because i wouldnt want to appear a complete divot in front of my peers. then i would enjoy the challenge of building it all up again and doing it better!
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I personally haven't lost a ship yet (knock wood), but I'd imagine you'd downgrade the ship so you can afford to pay for insurance. That's just a natural corollary to the "don't fly a ship you can't afford" chant that you hardliners keep spouting. Sell that type A FSD and fit a type B.