The Shield discussion thread

[GerminVermin]

I thought that was the rating. Doesn't the class dictate the amount of "shield points" restored? I'm not sure.

The "don't like it, don't use it" argument doesn't hold any water in a PvP environment by the way. If something can be abused, it *will* be abused, and you will be at a disadvantage by not using it.
Anyways, I'm not arguing against how shield cells should work, but I'm arguing for toning them down a notch or two. But more importantly, make sure the AI can use them properly as it is too easy to cheese the game by spamming shield cells against target that really should be way out of your league. I'd like to reiterate that an Elite Anaconda should be the scariest thing ever for a single small/medium sized ship, but they actually don't represent much of a danger against a reasonably rigged Cobra with one or two shield cells modules. There's definitely an issue here if you ask me.

Don't confuse the word "used" with the word "abused."

Just because you don't like that it exists doesn't mean that the person using it is somehow abusing anything.

It's a valid game mechanic.

It's absolutely PREPOSTEROUS that people are actually objecting to the challenge presented when their target has shield cells. You can't be serious, can you? Why not just carry the argument further and say how dare any of my targets have shields that regenerate at all? How dare my target have a hull repair module! How dare my target not just blow up when I decide that he needs to die!

If your target is using a shield cell, you have to work harder to kill him. If you can't kill him, then THEY ARE REWARDED FOR BEING THE BETTER PILOT. That doesn't justify a claim that shield cells are abusing anything.

 

[Amarok 73]

Shield generator dissapeared just like that?

Hello,

About hour ago when I was docking to station, suddenly I noticed, that my shield dissapeared. I didn't sold anything, nor bought new equipment, it's like slot containing shield generator have just been subtracted from other slots in my Sidewinder. Is it possible, or I've just missed something that lead to this situation?

 

[Crimson Fury]

How about shield cell simply increase the shield recharge rate by 20% and you're limited to one per ship?

 

[Blast Hardcheese]

No clue, sounds like you sold it on accident if it's really gone, or some really weird bug. At least it was only a sidewinder

 

[Samu]

Assuming you've checked by going into the Outfitting section that it is no longer attached to your ship (if its still there then you probably accidentally hit your silent running hotkey to turn your shields off), then you must have sold it at some point as it isn't fixed to your ship like the FSD is. Just find your largest sized slot and buy another.

 

[Amarok 73]

I saw already this explanation in other posts, but if I'd sell this shield generator, the empty slot would be available in my ship, and this didn't happened. I have (as far as I remember, because there are some issues with master server so I can't check this) 11 slots, all with other hardware that I was collecting last week. And I know the moment when generator dissapeared, because in the same session I was flying with friend, and we bounced together few times without significant impact since both of us have had shields, then we arrived to station and at this moment I suddenly noticed that I've no shield and no generator in modules management.

 

[Samu]

It wouldn't necessarily leave an empty slot as you may have bought something to replace it.

 

[Amarok 73]

I am aware of that, but no other changes in my ship's configuration have occured today. And another observation was, that when I was doing some kill-the-traders mission, none of AI ships have had shields enabled.
May it be something related to issues with servers connections?
And another question: how many internal slots should be available on Sidewinder?

 

[CaptainKremmen]

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If your target is using a shield cell, you have to work harder to kill him. If you can't kill him, then THEY ARE REWARDED FOR BEING THE BETTER PILOT.
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I'm not completely sure that's what they are being rewarded for.

Back before I swore off shields cells, I didn't feel like I was being rewarded for being the better pilot.

 

[Amarok 73]

In following screenshot is my current configuration after I've sold "cargo hold" (?) module to make place for shield generator.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=366054641

 

[Tono Kopec]

So, is your shield working now?

 

[Pheyes]

I'm not completely sure that's what they are being rewarded for.

Back before I swore off shields cells, I didn't feel like I was being rewarded for being the better pilot.

All they do is take the real skill out of fighting, the game was a scary place before cell recharges.

 

[Amarok 73]

Tono - yes, it is working now, but do not miss the point: the problem wasn't that my generator was not working, but module have dissapeared from my ship configuration while I didn't replaced it with anything else.

 

[Max Torps]

When did you get your fuel scoop?

 

[Amarok 73]

About two days ago.

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Gentlemen, to simplify, how many internal hardpoints SW should have?
If the number from my screenshot is the max, then I assume that indeed I've replaced it with something then rest is my confabulation.

 

[Unpleasant]

Hello,

About hour ago when I was docking to station, suddenly I noticed, that my shield dissapeared. I didn't sold anything, nor bought new equipment, it's like slot containing shield generator have just been subtracted from other slots in my Sidewinder. Is it possible, or I've just missed something that lead to this situation?

Shield gens don't have a dedicated shield slot. They use any internal compartment.

 

[Tono Kopec]

Maybe you've switched around the cargo hold, shield generator and fuel scoop modules. They all fit in the two class 2 internal compartments.

 

[Amarok 73]

Well, the longer I think about that, more I go in doubts and indeed I could suspect fuel scoop that replaced shield generator, but I am almost 100% sure, that after this transaction, I've had plenty of occasions in fight to hear, that my shield was down...

 

[Max Torps]

You've the correct number of slots. The loaned shield generator uses a class 2 compartment, I noticed your new scoop does too. I've replaced my shield gen with a fuel scoop before and not noticed it until a few jumps later.

 

[Amarok 73]

Ok, let it be ultimate explanation and lesson for me to observe more carefully what causes things I do.
Thanks for Your time and help, gentlemen.