Where did my credits go?

Ok, I was floating in space just outside a station in the fire zone trying to remap my keys that errored out somehow and I noticed I was being destroyed. I came back to a blown up ship. Joy. As my insurance didn't cover everything and I didn't have all the money to re-outfit my cobra, I just chose the sidewinder because I was going to get a viper anyway. I get the noob ship back in my starting location, but I have no credits.

Did i just lose the 800k I put into my cobra? Why is it not showing up in my balance? Where did all my credits go?
 
Yeah, that wasn't helpful at all. I am serious, if my ship was insured, where did my credits go? It took me a long time to make it as I am not as well versed with this game as others are.
 
Ok, I was floating in space just outside a station in the fire zone trying to remap my keys that errored out somehow and I noticed I was being destroyed. I came back to a blown up ship. Joy. As my insurance didn't cover everything and I didn't have all the money to re-outfit my cobra, I just chose the sidewinder because I was going to get a viper anyway. I get the noob ship back in my starting location, but I have no credits.

Did i just lose the 800k I put into my cobra? Why is it not showing up in my balance? Where did all my credits go?

The ship went boom. You don't get the money back when it goes boom. In the future, it's best that you not let the ship go boom. Boom is bad.

If you had 800k in the bank at the time, this is definitely a bug that needs a ticket. Otherwise, you don't get refunded when the ship gets blown up.
 
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if u dont have the rebuy money asked when u lose the ship u just lose it.
press 4 and look the rebuy cost,and remember never fly what u cant rebuy.
 
Not helpful... but funny...

Everyone is having issues, we just need to wait for FD to give us an update... Hopefully... soonish...
 
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The ship went boom. You don't get the money back when it goes boom. In the future, it's best that you not let the ship go boom. Boom is bad.

Hang on, I lost a viper before and got it all back by paying out the extra the insurance didn't cover which was about 40k. Why didn't I get what was owed back?

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if u dont have the rebuy money asked when u lose the ship u just lose it.
press 4 and look the rebuy cost,and remember never fly what u cant rebuy.

So...what you are saying is that if rebuy cost is 20k and I only have 10k, I basically lose everything? That would be the equivalent of wrecking my Ford, not being able to afford a co-pay right away, so the insurance company says "Too bad, we get to keep it now". That makes absolutely no sense.
 
Insurance don't work that way In this game. If you had invested ALL 800k in your destroyed ship and didn't have enough money in the bank to rebuy your ship that was destroyed then you lost everything. Its a "Feature". BTW prepare to be attacked on the forums by those who will explain to you how Its a "Tough" game and you should have known better. Just ignore them....I do.
 
When your ship goes boom you have a few choices.

1, Grab the free sidwinder.. Cost nothing.
2, Re-buy a standard version of the ship you lost, which is something like 5% of the original purchase price.
3, Re-buy the ship you lost including all the mods and weapons you upgraded. Cost the same as 2, plus a little extra for each upgrade.

Grab a little hauler when you can, upgrade the FSD to the best, stick 2x8 cargo bays in it and go buy some rare goods. You'll get your 800k in an hour or 2 with the right rares.
 
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Ok, I was floating in space just outside a station in the fire zone trying to remap my keys

Why would you do that? That's like standing next to open vats of flammable liquids while testing out your blowtorching skills.

Always run and do that stuff in your neighbour's yard. Sorry to hear it but if you didn't click the Rebuy option after dying then you don't get a second shot at it I'm afraid.

Rule #1: Don't fly what you can't afford/don't mind losing;

Rule #2: Never test anything anywhere that anyone can see it, let alone be affected by it;

Rule #3: Plan for the worst, and hope for the best and you will never be caught by surprise.
 
Insurance don't work that way In this game. If you had invested ALL 800k in your destroyed ship and didn't have enough money in the bank to rebuy your ship that was destroyed then you lost everything. Its a "Feature". BTW prepare to be attacked on the forums by those who will explain to you how Its a "Tough" game and you should have known better. Just ignore them....I do.

A feature? I spent 10k too much on an item not realizing that I would lose 800k because there is no tutorial on this anywhere. As I am obviously new to this game and it took me 12-20 hours of experimenting and exploring to come up with that 800k, it was not easy to come up with. For cryin out loud, I get a couple of hours a night to play this game after the kids are in bed. I just blew over a week away on a simple mistake that shouldn't have happened. This is a feature?

I know about getting flamed. This is the forums after all and people love to chime in with their "this is Elite: DANGEROUS carebear" comments.

This game is in dire need of an optional walkthrough of the basics of the mechanics and features of the game.
 
I'm not sure, but I do think the 200.000Cr loan should be easily able to handle a 800.000Cr value Cobra, even with 0 Cr in the Bank at the time of Destruction ??!

It sure can't handle an Upgraded ASP - but a fairly basic Cobra should be fully covered by the loan. So it's kinda weird to hear this happen.

Also, ships don't simply get attacked or destroyed inside the NoFire Zone of a Station (??)

it should cover it yes, but he stated that he CHOSE not to take the cobra back because he was thinking of getting a viper. It's a case of "uh oh", and "oh well, too late now" and not a bug
 
I'm not sure, but I do think the 200.000Cr loan should be easily able to handle a 800.000Cr value Cobra, even with 0 Cr in the Bank at the time of Destruction ??!

I'd think it's more than enough. I can't recall what my ship is worth at present, but the insurance on it is less than 70k.

OP, yes, if the insurance is 20k, and you only have 10, you lose everything. It's not pro-rated. You have the option to deselect upgrades to get the value down to try to take advantage of the insurance, I think. You're also supposed to have the option to take out a loan as well. I'm not entirely sure what happened in your case, however, so I don't know why you didn't get the option for the loan, that would have easily covered the 20k it was asking for the insurance.

I sort of know how you feel here. I've lost 4 ships to idiot AI mistakes, and seriously doubt I'll see a credit of it. In fact, I'm positive I won't, as the tickets appear to have been purged from the system, so I don't expect an answer to any of them.

One time was due to the AI getting the big bertha hauler stuck in the station entryway so I couldn't get out, and then getting shot to hell by the station for 'loitering'. That was before I found out you could log out and get around it sometimes. :eek:

The rest were due to NPCs ramming me as I was yanked out of SC by an interdiction, and we slammed into each other as I came out. Brilliantly engineered mechanic there as well.
 
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I'm not sure, but I do think the 200.000Cr loan should be easily able to handle a 800.000Cr value Cobra, even with 0 Cr in the Bank at the time of Destruction ??!

It sure can't handle an Upgraded ASP - but a fairly basic Cobra should be fully covered by the loan. So it's kinda weird to hear this happen.

Also, ships don't simply get attacked or destroyed inside the NoFire Zone of a Station (??)

Was a ways away from station not near no-fire zone. No idea who shot me. I saw the loan but again, I thought that insurance would repay what I lost on the ship. As there is no tutorial on basic mechanics like that beyond digging through youtube vids that people might make and possibly mention this mechanic, I was at a loss on how it works.

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it should cover it yes, but he stated that he CHOSE not to take the cobra back because he was thinking of getting a viper. It's a case of "uh oh", and "oh well, too late now" and not a bug

This is exactly it. To me insurance means you get the value of what you insured in case it is lost. In this game it means something very different and it is not explained in the least upon login. No tutorials beyond how to launch, land, and shoot.
 
Was a ways away from station not near no-fire zone. No idea who shot me. I saw the loan but again, I thought that insurance would repay what I lost on the ship. As there is no tutorial on basic mechanics like that beyond digging through youtube vids that people might make and possibly mention this mechanic, I was at a loss on how it works.

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This is exactly it. To me insurance means you get the value of what you insured in case it is lost. In this game it means something very different and it is not explained in the least upon login. No tutorials beyond how to launch, land, and shoot.

The TL;DR version of insurance in E: D is :
it will pay for a sidewinder, anything more and you have to pay the difference, at a discounted rate.
 
Was a ways away from station not near no-fire zone. No idea who shot me. I saw the loan but again, I thought that insurance would repay what I lost on the ship. As there is no tutorial on basic mechanics like that beyond digging through youtube vids that people might make and possibly mention this mechanic, I was at a loss on how it works.

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This is exactly it. To me insurance means you get the value of what you insured in case it is lost. In this game it means something very different and it is not explained in the least upon login. No tutorials beyond how to launch, land, and shoot.

Think of the insurance as a discount on buying back your lost ship. If you don't bu it back you get a discount on nothing.
 
Think of the insurance as a discount on buying back your lost ship. If you don't bu it back you get a discount on nothing.

Well that is the best explanation to date. Why call it insurance then? In the real world what you said is nothing like insurance at all. Had I known that I wasn't going to get my ship back at all, I would have taken the loan, sold my cobra, and been out the 30-40k or whatever it was instead of the 800k I lost.

Like I said, this game is severely lacking in explanation of the basics of playing it.
 
I would of thought it obvious that if you selected NOT to accept the insurance then you would lose everything you put into that ship.
Also make sure have have a look over the manual and if you think it does not explain something well enough let FD know and see if they can amend it.

Quote from the manual on insurance:

Your first ship is essentially on loan, and covered by a comprehensive insurance policy, ensuring
that you only have to pay a bounty or fine to be issued with a replacement.


Any modules you purchase and fit to this ship are covered by a lesser insurance – should they
need to be replaced you will have to pay a premium excess.


Should you purchase a ship, then this too is covered by a lesser insurance policy – should it be
destroyed, you will need to pay a premium excess for it and all modules fitted.


Although the premium excess fees are only small fractions of the ship and modules’ actual
worth, the resulting bill can still become significant, potentially more than you can afford.


In such circumstances you have a number of options. Assuming you have enough to cover
the hull cost (which includes all mandatory modules), you can choose not to pay for optional
modules, reducing the cost.


You have access to a creditor who can lend you up to 200,000CR. If you take this option, any
credits you make will have 10% deducted at source until the debt is paid.


If you have ships in storage, you can choose to abandon your current vessel claim and select
a ship in storage to activate.


If you have no ships and not enough credits to even pay the bounty or fine you owe at the
starport or outpost you arrive at after your ship has been destroyed, you are declared bankrupt.


All debt and crimes are cleared and you are transported to your starting location where you
receive a new loaned starting ship.


Effectively, your career is reset, but note that you retain all reputation and rank gained/lost (to
clear your career completely you will need to clear your save from the main menu).
 
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